Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[aussierulesrules]

Something that will be really fascinating will be which way we go with not only 8- which seems extremely likely to be traded- but also 7, if the 6 “prime mids” all go in the top 6.

If that happens, you’d think we might even be open to splitting both our picks, for the right offers.

The elite looking midfield talent will be gone, so there could be lots of ways we could go after that.

I personally feel like it would be a waste to take Tauru in the top 8, unless we think he’s a “generational” type.

Because if you put any of Shanahan/J Whitlock/Faull etc at CHB, they’d probably look a million dollars there as well- because it’s so much easier to play there than forward- but you won’t have to pay as much of a premium to get one of them. You could get two for the price of one Tauru.

It’s the same reason I’d be loathe to take a Travaglia there, unless you were super-confident of his future midfield potential. Put some of the gun smaller forwards from later in the draft on a HBF and they’d probably dominate there as well.

Look what happened when the likes of Sicily, Enright, Fisher, Battle, Lobb, Sinclair, Rioli, etc, etc got switched from the forward line to the half back line.

 

[LB2Snake]

If we dont get draper im sure its langford they pick

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Can’t be sure of anything though. Clubs have been massively tight lipped. It’s intriguing. Love this shit

 

[SMILLIE]

Do we get Twomey's first phantom on Wednesday with Gettable or have to wait till the weekend?

Think we get final rankings on Wednesday and then phantom draft 2 days before the actual draft

 

[GT619]

Do we get Twomey's first phantom on Wednesday with Gettable or have to wait till the weekend?

next Monday night

 

[LB2Snake]

next Monday night

I’m still not convinced he will be right

 

[T4P]

I’m still not convinced he will be right

100%, he will be a fair way off this year

 

[Mich0]

Those saying a tall Tauru is a stretch at 2 is interesting.

I remember I thought the same about Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

as pick 3, then 2 years later he helped us win a flag.

Would hope the Dees jump at Tauru, the best tall in a super draft with pick 5.

Look at the impact Mac Andrew made this season.

 

[The Talent Scout]

It's going to be amazing to see the shock when Richmond don't pick Lalor and North don't pick Tauru

I think a lot, did I say a lot, I MEAN A LOT of people are going to be quite nervous just before the draft, and "Anyone that says otherwise, is touching their own footy", if you know what I mean. I think if Richmond say take Jagga at pick #1, if we hold pick #2 and nothing happens and we are going to use that pick it might be the longest few minutes for us in draft history, I've said it once and I'll say it again if you guys don't take Sam at pick #1 the chances that you get him at pick #6, are cross lotto odds, so its going to be very interesting to see where he goes.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Crows will swoop on Langford
just wait..

I just had to give you a like for that username and picture, just had to.

 

[The Talent Scout]

I’m still not convinced he will be right

I agree, I think clubs will give him a list of players they are looking at, now it might only be a short list but everyone is under lock & key so spouting to Cal goes against everything the clubs have done so far, he will get some right but if he nails this draft I'll be gobsmacked.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I agree, I think clubs will give him a list of players they are looking at, now it might only be a short list but everyone is under lock & key so spouting to Cal goes against everything the clubs have done so far, he will get some right but if he nails this draft I'll be gobsmacked.

I don’t think he gets his mail on who a club is selecting from the club itself. I think he gets it from clubs with picks right before or in particular right after that club, who are the ones who have the best idea who’s going where in that area. Also from player managers. They would presumably tell him which club or clubs are spending the most time on their guys.

 

[marcmurphy3]

It's more exciting to imagine it being up in the air but I suspect it's going to be more boring then that. Twomey will get most the top 10 right like usual. It's his job and he's very good at it.

Richmond probably pick Lalor like they're expected to. North probably take Tauru like theyre expected to by everyone but North supporters (North BF board to simulateously explode). And Carlton probably take FOS despite rumors to the contrary.

That's my very boring prediction anyway. Where we could see a couple surprises is towards the back end of the top 10, particularly if Saints split.

North seemingly holding 2 should definately make it easier for Twomey to do his phantom. Harder to predict if it was traded.

 

[The Talent Scout]

It's more exciting to imagine it being up in the air but I suspect it's going to be more boring then that. Twomey will get most the top 10 right like usual. It's his job and he's very good at it.

Richmond probably pick Lalor like they're expected to. North probably take Tauru like theyre expected to by everyone but North supporters (North BF board to simulateously explode). And Carlton probably take FOS despite rumors to the contrary.

That's my very boring prediction anyway. Where we could see a couple surprises is towards the back end of the top 10, particularly if Saints split.

North seemingly holding 2 should definately make it easier for Twomey to do his phantom. Harder to predict if it was traded.

The 2024 AFL National Draft, first of all, there are going to be some surprises, I can just feel it, second, guess what people, its only..........to the Draft!

 

[Significant]

A question for Richmond supporters, given your gluttony of first round picks, is there any players likely to go in the first round that you would hate for Richmond to pick up?

 

[GoodoilBartul]

Dusty was the AA centreman in his under 18 year and went at 20 possessions a game - half contested - in his first year of AFL. And by year 2 was going at over 20 and over a goal a game - not many players do that. I know for a fact that Pies had him at pick 1, despite question marks off field - not sure how high other teams had him.

I have been covering the draft for over 25 years and Dusty was a better rated talent in his top age year than anyone in this draft, he was picking up the ball one handed and pumping 60m inside 50 from stoppage and just a very, very clean, balanced, strong player without a weakness. This draft has a very strong even top 20, whereas the Dusty draft was different - a very small high-end tier then a substantial drop-off. Trengove was an incredibly solid prospect with very good senior SANFL form and Scully was a running machine, probably a similar but better prospect coming out than Jagga. Injuries killed Trengove and Melbourne are still getting yield from the Scully pick - May and Sparrow are legacies of his recruitment.

 

[bobs head soup]

They'd take a defender. They just had Keath retire

Can't see that happening. Keath only played 5 games last year and had become a depth option. We're actually pretty stacked for tall defenders;

• Liam Jones finished 4th in our b&f and is still a very good kpd (nearing the end admittedly),
• Lobb was a revelation when swung back. Finished 8th in b&f despite ordinary form and VFL games early in the year. His mobility and disposal make him an upgrade on Keath,
• O'Donnell (a 2023 Cat b signing) continued to develop ahead of schedule, 14 games in 2024 despite injuries - has a bright future,
• Khamis had by far his best year, 17 games and still developing,
• Coffield was solid when he got on the field and Gardner is still on the list but down the pecking order at present,
• We have 2 first rounder kpds in development (Busslinger and Croft) who we drafted knowing they'd be slow starters. Buss was skinny and had just had shoulder surgery, but his late VFL form in 2024 was highly promising

In short, our tall back depth isn't an issue

 

[sr36]

I have been covering the draft for over 25 years and Dusty was a better rated talent in his top age year than anyone in this draft, he was picking up the ball one handed and pumping 60m inside 50 from stoppage and just a very, very clean, balanced, strong player without a weakness. This draft has a very strong even top 20, whereas the Dusty draft was different - a very small high-end tier then a substantial drop-off. Trengove was an incredibly solid prospect with very good senior SANFL form and Scully was a running machine, probably a similar but better prospect coming out than Jagga. Injuries killed Trengove and Melbourne are still getting yield from the Scully pick - May and Sparrow are legacies of his recruitment.

Yep. That's my point. There's going to continue to be powerful blokes with exciting attributes coming through who get compared to Dusty or Petracca. But unless they've used these attributes to be dominant mids at state level, they're just not as strong prospects as those blokes were. Nothing against Lalor, but he just isn't as good a player as an 18 year old Dusty or Petracca - very few are.

P.S. wasn't May recruited from Hogan pick? Did Hogan originally get picked up through Scully compensation?

 

[LB2Snake]

100%, he will be a fair way off this year

Might be close if there’s minimal or no swaps. But geez it’s hard to pick what’s going to happen. 1 swap and everything changes. Guess that’s the same most years.

 

[LB2Snake]

Can't see that happening. Keath only played 5 games last year and had become a depth option. We're actually pretty stacked for tall defenders;

• Liam Jones finished 4th in our b&f and is still a very good kpd (nearing the end admittedly),
• Lobb was a revelation when swung back. Finished 8th in b&f despite ordinary form and VFL games early in the year. His mobility and disposal make him an upgrade on Keath,
• O'Donnell (a 2023 Cat b signing) continued to develop ahead of schedule, 14 games in 2024 despite injuries - has a bright future,
• Khamis had by far his best year, 17 games and still developing,
• Coffield was solid when he got on the field and Gardner is still on the list but down the pecking order at present,
• We have 2 first rounder kpds in development (Busslinger and Croft) who we drafted knowing they'd be slow starters. Buss was skinny and had just had shoulder surgery, but his late VFL form in 2024 was highly promising

In short, our tall back depth isn't an issue

Busslinger. Forgot all about him bobs head soup ……have you seen him play VFL ? Looked a very exciting prospect when drafted.

 

[captain cotch 9]

A question for Richmond supporters, given your gluttony of first round picks, is there any players likely to go in the first round that you would hate for Richmond to pick up?

Trainor & Hotton seem the most risky but "hate" would be extreme. Most Tigs supporters trust Blair to make the right calls. He has done well so far this off season.

 

[Mofra]

Busslinger. Forgot all about him bobs head soup ……have you seen him play VFL ? Looked a very exciting prospect when drafted.

I was concerned when drafted as he seemed to be an 'interceptor only' but his form in the VFL this year was very good - plays like an old-school full back, complete with taking kick outs.
I'm not convinced he and Liam Jones play in the same side, but Liam's late season form was concerning and the end could be closer than we think. I was pretty happy when he signed a 2 year extension.

 

[Red Bull]

If we dont get draper im sure its langford they pick

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Doubt crows get Draper at 4 …

 

[G String]

I have been covering the draft for over 25 years and Dusty was a better rated talent in his top age year than anyone in this draft, he was picking up the ball one handed and pumping 60m inside 50 from stoppage and just a very, very clean, balanced, strong player without a weakness. This draft has a very strong even top 20, whereas the Dusty draft was different - a very small high-end tier then a substantial drop-off. Trengove was an incredibly solid prospect with very good senior SANFL form and Scully was a running machine, probably a similar but better prospect coming out than Jagga. Injuries killed Trengove and Melbourne are still getting yield from the Scully pick - May and Sparrow are legacies of his recruitment.

I think the view on Dusty's u18 career is being a little retrospectively obscured. Dusty had some very well publicised weaknesses which he really didn't overcome until well into his senior career - in particular his tank. He also wasn't great at defensive pressure and was pretty slow - which he never really fixed!

If Dusty was such an accomplished player at 17 - why the hell did the demons pass on him twice?? What a monumental fk up by the demons! Why would they pass on a player with all those attributes and no weakness for a running machine and then a good solid player - it makes no sense. I think in reality melbourne saw the weaknesses in dusty and went for the low risk options. They certainly didn't see the potential for an all time great - even when they had scope and perfect opportunity to take at least one risk out of the 2.

BTW - I've dug up an old draft profile for dusty - https://afldraftinfo.blogspot.com/2009/10/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html - doesn't scream 'he was always going to be an all-time great' to me.

 

[blaisee]

I think the view on Dusty's u18 career is being a little retrospectively obscured. Dusty had some very well publicised weaknesses which he really didn't overcome until well into his senior career - in particular his tank. He also wasn't great at defensive pressure and was pretty slow - which he never really fixed!

If Dusty was such an accomplished player at 17 - why the hell did the demons pass on him twice?? What a monumental fk up by the demons! Why would they pass on a player with all those attributes and no weakness for a running machine and then a good solid player - it makes no sense. I think in reality melbourne saw the weaknesses in dusty and went for the low risk options. They certainly didn't see the potential for an all time great - even when they had scope and perfect opportunity to take at least one risk out of the 2.

BTW - I've dug up an old draft profile for dusty - https://afldraftinfo.blogspot.com/2009/10/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html - doesn't scream 'he was always going to be an all-time great' to me.

The only reason Dusty went at Pick 3 was because he was the son of a bickie

Dusty tested well in endurance and speed, but built his tank over the years

It was the off field stuff that was a question mark, both Scully and Trengrove where choirboys in comparison

 

[4tune8]

A question for Richmond supporters, given your gluttony of first round picks, is there any players likely to go in the first round that you would hate for Richmond to pick up?

The preference, for me, is to take players with elite kicking (disposal) skills, so if 2 players project similarly then that separation point is kicking.

Travaglia, Allan and Hotton are all suspect with their disposals, so players like Lindsay, Berry and Oliver should be rated higher on our board.

Everyone is saying that we should be taking talls, but unless they're the sort that a premiership team can be built around then they should not be taken. I've seen mocks where we take 4 talls which is overkill, especially when highly talented Wingers/Forwards and HBF's are overlooked. KPP's make up a full 3rd of our list, if we want to fill out the team in a couple of years with high quality KPP's then we'll have the capacity to buy them.

We're lacking a strong Ruck/Forward that can be developed along with the draftee intake over the next 3 years, I'd be disappointed if we didn't take Gerreyn or Sims.