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Recommitted Dustin Martin [UFA 2024]
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Warner is a better version of the current incarnation of dusty
Yep, but can't see Dusty taking a huge pay cut to move to another club either.
Can't see him leaving TBH.
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Agree which is why it’s so unlikely but on the off chance it happens, his current contract will be canned.
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if you retire kennedy, let Lloyd go and factor in buddy taking 300-400k less than this year that should account for dusty wage
The bottom line is, Dusty's not worth nowhere near 1.3 million now.
1.3 contract to take over for 2 years? I genuinely think a side would have to be INSANE to even contemplate bringing him in.
Been one of the best, but his best days are well and truely gone. Injury’s popping up now as well.
I believe he stays with Richmond
Been one of the best, but his best days are well and truely gone. Injury’s popping up now as well.
I believe he stays with Richmond
Yep. In the last 2 years of 40 possible games Martin has played 24.
His disposal figures have also plummeted as well in recent years
2016 - 31.1
2017 - 29.8
2018 - 25.4
2019 - 26.1
2020 - 20.6
2021 - 22.6
2022 - 18.8
Not only is he getting the ball 30% less than he was in 2016 but in 2022 Martin is averaging fewer disposals than he was in his very first year in the system in 2010. Martin has never averaged fewer disposals than he is in 2022, and his 2021 and 2020 disposal numbers are showing a trend.
Anyone who picks up Martin will have to take into account that he may no longer be capable of averaging in the mid 20's.
Are those average disposals in 2020 adjusted for the shorter quarters?
In any case it is clear that what’s on offer isn’t prime Dustin Martin. The cost in trade for a prime Dustin Martin would have been two top ten picks
No they wouldn't be adjusted so you make a good point there. Means the drop off in the last 2 years has been pretty high though.
Also even if Martin was in peak form his age would definitely be a limiting factor in what he is worth and how long a contract another team would give him.
I think he'll stay at Richmond and he'll get back to being one of the most damaging players in the comp but with far less midfield time.
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Best thing for all involved that can happen is for him to stay and be a one club player and for Richmond to have to pay all of his salary. Has to push other players out of the club to pay him
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Not only soft tissue injuries but could easily fall into mental malaise as well.
He and his big contract stay at Richmond so they take all the risk.
Why would you think that?
Caddy is gone, Lambert is gone, Edwards will hang them up and if Riewoldt and Cotchin do go around once more it'll be for a lot less money. We'd have more money available next season than we have for every other year of his deal so far
Sure. But he isn't worth risking $1m a year when he is now picking up regular injuries.
There is a reason why Richmond will let him go with their blessing.
Those three players you've mentioned two are heart and soul Bloods. Buddy has earned his pay packet. You shaft those guys and others over the term of Dusty's contract to bring in a 30 + year old who is obviously struggling in body and mind. How will that affect the playing group?
Same with Fyfe and Freo. $1.3m sitting in rehab. Now they are wondering how can we fix this?
Eagles similar with Gaff on $800k for two more years and he has fallen away quickly. McGovern on $1m the same.
These big long-term deals seem to unravel as they reach the end years.
Why would you think that?
Caddy is gone, Lambert is gone, Edwards will hang them up and if Riewoldt and Cotchin do go around once more it'll be for a lot less money. We'd have more money available next season than we have for every other year of his deal so far
Tigers just gave Baker and Rioli decent pay rises.
Others are due as well. Swings and roundabouts.
Retaining Dusty just means they are hampered somewhat in chasing big trades or free agents.
Yeah others a due but not in the same bracket as Rance, Grimes, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Lynch etc etc were though. The fact we're chasing Hopper, Tarranto etc shows we have some space. The last player we brought in was Lynch 4 years ago.
To say that Dustys contract is going to hurt us now that we're on the way down from a dynasty and all our best players are retiring or on reduced contracts is wishful thinking from opposition supporters more than anything.
Iva Bigun
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Why you ask, because a massive chunk to Dusty for the next 2 years and many of the players coming out of contract will want a taste so they will either leave or get a back ended contact. Either way you’re in a pickleWhy would you think that?
Caddy is gone, Lambert is gone, Edwards will hang them up and if Riewoldt and Cotchin do go around once more it'll be for a lot less money. We'd have more money available next season than we have for every other year of his deal so far
We're in a pickle now but not in the last few years winning flags and re-signing club legends?
Plus the cap is going up next season.GC will just have to be content picking up our scraps.
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I don't necessarily buy into the cap issue suggestion, but it's a lot easier to convince a player to stay for less than opposition clubs are offering when you're competing for a flag than when you're about to enter a rebuild.We're in a pickle now but not in the last few years winning flags and re-signing club legends?
GC will just have to be content picking up our scraps.
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As per usual its just a media beat up and trying to create a story with no actual facts or basis.
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Surely dusty has to come out at some point and put it to bed
It isnt going to help is it.
Dont worry, other clubs have similar issues. GWS has overpaid for several players, Eagles the same with McGovern and Gaff, Freo with Fyfe and Collingwood with Grundy.
It like purchasing a top range car others dont have. They cost twice as much as lessor cars and you make 5 equal annual repayments. Initially it is a good deal, the car is great and better than others, all good. Then 3 years later its got a few km on the clock, starts running rough and breaks down at times but you are still paying top dollar. And someone with a new better modern version, different brand that cost less comes along and yours isnt the best any more.
Such is life.
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