VFL Elimination final v Carlton - Sunday August 28th @ Vic Park. 1:05pm.

[No SPIN]

Im enjoying the afl team for now but when future talk comes up there are big question marks on where we are headed.

What are the big question marks on our direction?

 

[JOELY]

Draper looks miles off it, was Harrison even out there today?

I noticed Harrison in the back row of the coaches box. Notoriously hard area of the ground to get a kick from.

 

[loki04]

The same people who got us to fourth on the ladder.

Were they also the same people who got us to 17th last year? or 5 years of 12th or less finishes in the decade prior? Our AFL team is having a great season JMAC but I’d be very careful reading too much into what kind of scope the list has from this years results.

There is a distinct lack of flair and talent down there, also very small to a man in comparison to other clubs, also I thought Carlton looked much more well drilled in executing their game plan then what our boys did. In fact we often looked like headless chooks who just bombed and hoped for the best.
Carlton always had players positioned for out let recieves or switch kicks never over committing to the contest, had spares getting back in defence and used the ball well on rebound to open play and have forwards in space.

 

[Jonno94]

The same people who got us to fourth on the ladder.

With a single All Australian? McRae, Leppa and Bolton have got us to 4th.

 

[loki04]

I noticed Harrison in the back row of the coaches box. Notoriously hard area of the ground to get a kick from.

Didn’t think I saw or heard him mentioned. Let’s hope he is all he is cracked up to be been a lot of big wraps on him Dangerfield like explosiveness was the last I read.

 

[TradeDraft]

Brown looked impressive today

That won't be Hard today

 

[jmac70]

Were they also the same people who got us to 17th last year? or 5 years of 12th or less finishes in the decade prior? Our AFL team is having a great season JMAC but I’d be very careful reading too much into what kind of scope the list has from this years results.

There is a distinct lack of flair and talent down there, also very small to a man in comparison to other clubs, also I thought Carlton looked much more well drilled in executing their game plan then what our boys did. In fact we often looked like headless chooks who just bombed and hoped for the best.
Carlton always had players positioned for out let recieves or switch kicks never over committing to the contest, had spares getting back in defence and used the ball well on rebound to open play and have forwards in space.

Today’s result means bugger all.

 

[magpiewarrior]

Because a we have won a silly amount of games where we have comeback in and won by a kick Or 2. This is unsustainable moving into following seasons even the coach has raised concerns around it. It’s a great ride and the momentum can carry you to a flag but after this year is done there are some major flaws in our game that will be exposed long term.

pendles sidebum Elliott mihocek Howe etc are all getting on. 2 years max for a few of them, replacing that quality is not easy especially when you don’t want to rebuild through draft.

Draper looks miles off it, was Harrison even out there today?

In terms of young talents in the vfl Henry and macrae the only two to standout the rest all look non descript role types or flawed.

In his first hit out in 4 months, I thought Krueger looked ok. The fact is, if we play at least 3 more games, then in all likelihood we are going to have to call on some them before our season is done.

 

[JOELY]

Didn’t think I saw or heard him mentioned. Let’s hope he is all he is cracked up to be been a lot of big wraps on him Dangerfield like explosiveness was the last I read.

As someone who's seen every game of his, the Dangerfield comparison made by one poster is unfounded and actually pretty unfair on the kid. Nowhere near that, and I actually like him.

 

[loki04]

In his first hit out in 4 months, I thought Krueger looked ok. The fact is, if we play at least 3 more games, then in all likelihood we are going to have to call on some them before our season is done.

Krueger looks ok but is injury prone.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

In his first hit out in 4 months, I thought Krueger looked ok. The fact is, if we play at least 3 more games, then in all likelihood we are going to have to call on some them before our season is done.

Krueger needs to protect his himself more. His kamikaze style isn't going to see him play many consecutive games of AFL footy!!

 

[No SPIN]

He worked into it after a poor first half imo. But is a vfl player some players perform well at this level then every time they step up can’t bring the same level of performance he is one.

You have to pick a massive deficiencies in CB, to be categorical in this opinion. But there isn’t one.
His skills are fine as is his effort and application, once he gets confidence he will comfortably achieve AFL standard.
But he may have run out of time at Coll.

 

[loki04]

What are the big question marks on our direction?

Overall talent on the list, old players retiring in next few years and replacing that output. We also can’t keep losing in all statistical measures and steal victory from the jaws of defeat as a long term gameplan.

We are defying the odds currently.

 

[doofdoof]

Looked like most of them were all ready for mad Monday.

Cal is a step ahead of most VFL talent but a step behind AFL.

Great to see Kreuger back. If he dodges injury, should be a player.

Henry looked good at times, but terrible screaming at his teammate.

Bianco - meh

Ruscoe - I don't see what others do

Will Kelly

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Will Kelly

Age

23

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

2star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

MG

108.0

2star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

MG

108.0

2star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

2star

HB

1.0

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

108.0

2star

doesn't seem to have enough agro

Carmichael will be great with a couple of preseasons

Fin likely sub next week.

 

[jmac70]

Overall talent on the list, old players retiring in next few years and replacing that output. We also can’t keep losing in all statistical measures and steal victory from the jaws of defeat as a long term gameplan.

We are defying the odds currently.

We’ve been winning the most important statistical measure.

The scoreboard.

 

[loki04]

You have to pick a massive deficiencies in CB, to be categorical in this opinion. But there isn’t one.
His skills are fine as is his effort and application, once he gets confidence he will comfortably achieve AFL standard.
But he may have run out of time at Coll.

I have 6 years of evidence to form my categorical opinion and he has been given more opportunities then most players in his position.

He is too small to be effective vs the AFL role equivalents, he is bullied in the midfield at AFL level.

 

[GOR PIE]

Krueger needs to protect his himself more. His kamikaze style isn't going to see him play many consecutive games of AFL footy!!

Don't think there would be many down at Catland mourning his departure.

 

[loki04]

We’ve been winning the most important statistical measure.

The scoreboard.

Yes this season we have, we are talking 2023 and beyond not the current fairytale almost movie script like season we are having.

Also how many games have we won on scoreboard but had less shots then the opposition?

 

[domus]

Murley, Draper and Chugg would have to be the worst trio on an AFL list simultaneously in the last decade at least.

New to footy?

 

[gouki88]

Murley, Draper and Chugg would have to be the worst trio on an AFL list simultaneously in the last decade at least.

Do you ever do anything that isn't revolving around abusing kids? You're a top notch sad sack

 

[legendstatus]

Always hard to judge without bias when you get a loss like today but reckon we’ve seen the last of at 4-5 listed players

Would name them but ppl on forum too precious so don’t want to upset the delicates !




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[loki04]

Murley and Draper need to hit the gym in the off season, too easily brushed off

Majority of our list needs to hit the gym over off season, we have always been a bit smaller, thinly built compared to other teams.

 

[loki04]

Brown should request a trade. May just need to new environment because he is too good in the VFL.

What AFL role?

 

[ksardog]

But is a VfL level quality player. Do you keep him on the list purely for vfl reasons, as he is clearly not up to it at afl.

Firstly, you dont play him as a forward in a senior side, he is a mid or running half back.
He is good back up in those positions only

 

[ksardog]

Majority of our list needs to hit the gym over off season, we have always been a bit smaller, thinly built compared to other teams.

Stood out today how many of their attempted tackles were broken, or they were moved off the line of the ball