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That's not where the fight was.
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You shit eaters will always side with rich foreign billionaires. Absolute bootlickers.
Which rock have you been living under to have missed that?
Speaking as a leftie, we don't care if people remain celibate, that's their choice to make. We also generally are very tolerant of neurodivergent conditions like OCD, since a huge number of lefties are also neurodivergent. Racism isn't cool, but that was a different time where people had less exposure to other cultures, and one can appreciate a person who truly wanted to make the world better even if they had some views that aren't acceptable in today's world.
He didn't build anything, his engineers did.
He isn't a scientist or even an engineer. He's a marketer.
They've been living on planet earth, unencumbered by rocks, because you're incorrect. Leftists despise corporate power. Perhaps you're thinking of small-l liberals (teals and moderate Liberals), who are cool with LGBT+ people and want climate action, but also cheerlead for corporate CEOs. They're not leftists because they don't want to reform capitalism (or abandon it altogether) to make a more equal society.
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I don't entirely disagree but all modern feats of science (going back past the moon landing) were achieved by teams rather than an individual. These teams require competent leadership.
Having been on the record here working with renewables and EVs since 2016 (and supporting their adoption since prior to that) I am concerned by the amount of revisionism being applied. It was wrong when the right wing (cheerleaded by Murdoch media) opposed investment in renewables and battery tech due to "mining lithium is dirty!" back then, just as it is wrong now that many on the left have adopted the same talking points upon being offended by literally one individual guy.
Mining for minerals like lithium certainly does involve an environmental and humanitarian cost. These should of course be minimised and investment directed towards cleaner and more ethical battery chemistries as they arise. That does not mean that continuing the status quo of producing internal combustion engines is a preferable scenario. Since the wind isn't always blowing and the sun isn't always shining, battery storage will make up an important part of any green energy grid.
Anyone who has made any progress along the Dunning Kreuger X axis on these topics accepts that Tesla and SpaceX would not be the power houses they are without Elon's leadership. His claims that he is heavily involved in the engineering of his companies may well be BS yet he has evidently at the very least made good business decisions for these organisations.
Both things can be true: he posts on twitter like a 14 year old edgelord, and he has achieved a lot in areas once championed by the left such as renewables, battery storage, DC motors and rocket tech. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, part of the reason we have the technology for things like modern e-scooters, e-buses etc is because of the billions in R and D invested by companies like Tesla.
Cheers for engaging genuinely rather than the usual "simp bootlicker" response, since there is certainly a conversation to be had.
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To be fair, he did build something once.
But it's pathetic when you compare it to other games from that year (ie. Yie Ar Kung-Fu)
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Where is this happening?
FireKrakouer
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Guys one thing we all agree on is that misinformation is bad and that the masses should have access to factual information. Credit where it's due here to Elon for establishing community notes.
Why are worried about something that doesn't affect you?
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Errrr what?
He put in place SC judges that overturned Roe v Wade and boasts about being responsible for that.
So in effect he's already done it.
I think he will sign other royal decrees that make abortion difficult or impossible in states where it is freely available.
Very little of all this affects us, it's why I find it so amusing when people are so unhinged about the orange manWhy are worried about something that doesn't affect you?
Trump lies and you guys lose your minds, Kamala lies and 'this doesn't affect you who cares' lol
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I am sure everyone find some parts of this topic amusing and nothing more.
Unfortunately you choose actual issues to be so amused about, rather than the silly stuff like Trump's personal lawyer's hair dye leaking down his face.
TBH, given what we know about fringe groups over here seeking money from Trumpy US groups I think it has its serious side that will have effects on Australia and other nations.
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I mean regardless of anything else since when does Trump saying something = truth?
Like the context added was Trump says he won't do this, as if that is ever something to bank on
Surprised burge13 is taking him at his word here, must have something to do with the opportunity own the left
Like the context added was Trump says he won't do this, as if that is ever something to bank on
Surprised burge13 is taking him at his word here, must have something to do with the opportunity own the left
Vice Presidents don't really have much actual power, hence why no-one ever really 'lost their minds' over Pence.
But, to answer your question, Trump saying he isn't going to enact a total abortion ban means exactly squat; he could turn around on day one of his next presidency and ban it and it would surprise nobody.
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Its amusing how someone thinks Trump ( who said the Democrats allow after birth abortion on national television recently) and is running for the anti abortion party that has plans for a national abortion ban wouldn't ban abortion because of a community note
Even more amusing that he uses terms like unhinged
Even more amusing that he uses terms like unhinged
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