Recommitted Errol Gulden [Re-Signed to 2028]

[The Nostradamus]

21 years old already a star, 4th in brownlow, all Australian etc

he is a Sydney local so unlikely to go but will be able to likely command offers close to a mil elsewhere if he has another good year in his contract year in 2024

 

[Tandy]

Seems the typical loyal swans type of guy but will be interesting to see. He's one of the best in the league and even though he was up there in the Brownlow is still potentially underrated. Would look good in Freo colours

 

[Swanssince91]

21 years old already a star, 4th in brownlow, all Australian etc

he is a Sydney local so unlikely to go but will be able to likely command offers close to a mil elsewhere if he has another good year in his contract year in 2024

Swans will match anything for him

 

[Membling]

Of all the player on our list, I am hugely confident that he is the player that will not be going anywhere..

 

[stallon]

Gulden should be on the same money as Daicos, and the Swans should be doing everything possible to lock him down before offers could tempt him away imo.

 

[Swanssince91]

Gulden should be on the same money as Daicos, and the Swans should be doing everything possible to lock him down before offers could tempt him away imo.

Club is already trying, expect a 9 or 10 year contract offer

 

[branedotorg]

Absolute Carlton tragic but doubt he'd leave the swans or that any club he'd want to go to could afford his trade price.

 

[Obeanie1]

Absolute Carlton tragic but doubt he'd leave the swans or that any club he'd want to go to could afford his trade price.

What did it cost the Crows to get Dawson?

 

[Swanssince91]

What did it cost the Crows to get Dawson?

Late first rounder, I hope you don't think Dawson is the same level

 

[stallon]

Late first rounder, I hope you don't think Dawson is the same level

yep, Dawson is a great player, but Gulden is another level. He should be spoken of just as highly as Daicos, id argue Gulden is a much more well rounded player(yes I know hes a year older), while probably just a bit less flashy.

 

[branedotorg]

What did it cost the Crows to get Dawson?

Late first but crows were pushing the psd as an option and he wasn't exactly focusing on getting a great result for Sydney.

Goulden is more established than Dawson was at the time and so far hasn't shown any such inclination to leave, no matter what.

Fully expect him to be a one club player.

(No info, just opinion)

 

[Dirty_banchez]

He's an absolute jet. Eagles should offer a 12 year contract for him.

 

[Swanssince91]

He's an absolute jet. Eagles should offer a 12 year contract for him.

It would need to be 20 million to go there

 

[stallon]

It would need to be 20 million to go there

At this stage, the Eagles would be one of the few clubs that could afford him, not 20mil but a very good deal, more than Sydney could offer. Dont think itll happen though

 

[Swanssince91]

At this stage, the Eagles would be one of the few clubs that could afford him, not 20mil but a very good deal, more than Sydney could offer. Dont think itll happen though

No doubt, Oscar Allen is the only one that deserves a good wage at the minute

 

[Caligo]

Late first rounder, I hope you don't think Dawson is the same level

I think they are about the same level. But you got ripped off on Dawson due to PSD. He was worth a top 5 pick (that Adelaide had) and a second rounder and Gulden is worth the same.

Pretty tough using a dodgy PSD trade as a model though.

 

[Swanssince91]

I think they are about the same level. But you got ripped off on Dawson due to PSD. He was worth a top 5 pick (that Adelaide had) and a second rounder and Gulden is worth the same.

Pretty tough using a dodgy PSD trade as a model though.

Dawson the same level? Gulden was AA by 21 and come close to winning a brownlow.
Dawson was a part time reserves player at that age
We wouldn't trade him for pick 1 plus another early first

 

[Caligo]

Dawson the same level? Gulden was AA by 21 and come close to winning a brownlow.
Dawson was a part time reserves player at that age

At the moment Dawson was traded he was an elite young midfielder worth a top 5 pick and a bit more. I do not believe under any circumstances Gulden would leave Sydney, but if he did right now I would value him at a top 5 pick and a bit more. Maybe because Gulden is younger he is worth a touch more, but it is pretty hard to get more than a top 5 pick in a trade regardless. The big difference is that Dawson could lead a midfield. Gulden simply doesn't have the physical presence to ever let me think he will.

This is all a bit silly though. I don't see Gulden going anywhere.

 

[Swanssince91]

At the moment Dawson was traded he was an elite young midfielder worth a top 5 pick and a bit more. I do not believe under any circumstances Gulden would leave Sydney, but if he did right now I would value him at a top 5 pick and a bit more. Maybe because Gulden is younger he is worth a touch more, but it is pretty hard to get more than a top 5 pick in a trade regardless. The big difference is that Dawson could lead a midfield. Gulden simply doesn't have the physical presence to ever let me think he will.

This is all a bit silly though. I don't see Gulden going anywhere.

I think you're undervaluing him
I wouldn't trade him for your 4 best players

 

[Caligo]

I think you're undervaluing him
I wouldn't trade him for your 4 best players

Maybe I am "undervaluing" him, but I am talking about what you could legitimately get in a trade if he demanded out like Dawson did. I believe the most you could get would be around pick 5 and pick 25. Which is what Adelaide should have given for Dawson.

If you really think you could get more then I accept that. But tell me which players in history have been traded for more than pick 5 and pick 25 and we will be ready to talk about what is possible. It is really hard to actually get full value in a trade (but straight up robbery like Dawson is rare).

 

[Swanssince91]

Maybe I am "undervaluing" him, but I am talking about what you could legitimately get in a trade if he demanded out like Dawson did. I believe the most you could get would be around pick 5 and pick 25. Which is what Adelaide should have given for Dawson.

If you really think you could get more then I accept that. But tell me which players in history have been traded for more than pick 5 and pick 25 and we will be ready to talk about what is possible. It is really hard to actually get full value in a trade (but straight up robbery like Dawson is rare).

Just stop, you're not even close

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I think they are about the same level. But you got ripped off on Dawson due to PSD. He was worth a top 5 pick (that Adelaide had) and a second rounder and Gulden is worth the same.

Pretty tough using a dodgy PSD trade as a model though.

I think Gulden is considerable better/more advanced than Dawson at the same age.

Two top ten picks is the minimum cost it would take in the very very unlikely event he wanted out of The Swans. NSW born and bred kid.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I think you're undervaluing him
I wouldn't trade him for your 4 best players

That's a bit harsh but probably fair.

Errol really looks like he could be a multiple Brownlow medal winner..

 

[Swanssince91]

That's a bit harsh but probably fair.

Errol really looks like he could be a multiple Brownlow medal winner..

Agree it was a bit harsh, but 5 and 25 is just trolling

 

[Caligo]

Agree it was a bit harsh, but 5 and 25 is just trolling

You didn't say which players ever got more than 5 and 25. You can use the entire history of the AFL if you like.