Essendon sign Mal Michael

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Incorrect - can be as binding as one written on paper
"In general, oral contracts are just as valid as written ones" - Wikipedia

Perhaps you could explain why either party would see the necessity of a verbal contract if they already had a written one.

 

[Tas]

Essendon and Mal Michale will avoid any trouble simply by just saying he changed his mind after he retired.

Players come back from retirement? Unless there was a condition placed on being released that he would never play AFL football again (which I haven't heard mentioned) then there is probably nothing legal stopping him from playing for Essendon.

 

[DaSawx]

Move on everyone, this could get bigger than the Essendon Optimism thread

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Being better-informed than us mere mortals, you'd have irrefutable proof of these monstrous assertions.

Don't be a fool skilts, you know it is wrong......like I said Spida could of done the exact same thing in 05 and they may have won back to back as a direct result of it....

 

[ant555]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Are you a Rhode Scholar are you, great grammur by yourseelf...no bias involved (though I do think you guy's stink)

No matter what tripe you write it is an incorrect way to go about it...

You just dont get it do you! It has nothing to do with being a Rhodes Scholler ( which by my own admittance i would never confece to be close to it)
One day a really hope you are in a position where you are innocent of something but everyone just assumes you did it.
If it is proven that it was all a conspiracy then yes sure action should be taken. Until then i am pretty neutral.

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Bloody oath it does I could sort of understand if he did this because the lions didnt want to trade him but to do it for no reason is just pathetic.

I dunno, putting the noses of the Brisbane posters on this and the Aker threads out-of-joint would be reason enough. It's worked a treat too.

 

[one_twelve112]

Mal Michael "I am retiring from AFL Football and agree that I won't be playing football elsewhere". *Hand Shake*......
I am only raisng this as a possibilty, however unlikely it may appear.

 

[Runk]

This is awesome news!!! I can't believe it??

 

[*Danni*]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Who needs documents to prove it hes with Essendon now isnt he I mean if he wanted to retire he wouldnt be playing football would he.

Michael declined to be traded. Which at the time was seen as a sign of loyalty. He wanted to stay with us on a modified program to pursue his outside interests, or not play. Between him and the club a modified program could not be agreed to. So he walked. He retired. He left behind a huge chunk of his life.

We all have to remember that long before being aligned to our club he was aligned to collingwood, and before that to his feeder clubs, and before all that? His one motivating factor to become associated with ANY club in the first place was his love of football. That is what it turned out he wasn't ready to give up.

Now if the powers that be legislated correctly, on an AFL and Club basis, then this would be a non issue. The option wouldn't be there. And to be honest we still don't know if it's a viable option yet.

Yes the option is there - by omission of 'can't do it' legislation in the rules, but until the AFL puts their stamp on approval on a lodged and accepted contract, there isn't even a precedent for a 'can do' interpretation of the legislation, let alone it actually being written into the rules as an option.

And who knows, maybe Mal will be as fickle with his comeback as he has been with retirement, and he'll change his mind again in 2 weeks time. It's doubtful, but it's not out of the question.

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Don't be a fool skilts, you know it is wrong......like I said Spida could of done the exact same thing in 05 and they may have won back to back as a direct result of it....

I may well know it's wrong, but you have no proof that I do. Just like you have no proof of your other gum-flapping calumnies on this topic. That's right isn't it? You don't have any proof, do you?

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

You just dont get it do you! It has nothing to do with being a Rhodes Scholler ( which by my own admittance i would never confece to be close to it)
One day a really hope you are in a position where you are innocent of something but everyone just assumes you did it.
If it is proven that it was all a conspiracy then yes sure action should be taken. Until then i am pretty neutral.

Regardless there should be a process in place for this not to occur...it goes against the grain IMO.

 

[Bombers_Forever]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

I don't think it will happen, particularly if the Lions do act as promise.

If any club is going to take him with his outside interests, it would be us.

I think he is a good player and would add something to our backline but really, I don't know why we would use our pick when we could get someone young.

 

[Embers]

Mal Michael "I am retiring from AFL Football and agree that I won't be playing football elsewhere". *Hand Shake*......
I am only raisng this as a possibilty, however unlikely it may appear.

Past consideration is no consideration . Unless Brisbane inserted a clause into his contract preventing him from playing elsewhere it really is there own fault. They should leave it alone as they have no case whatsoever and handle it in a respective manner for a change

 

[skilts]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Regardless there should be a process in place for this not to occur...it goes against the grain IMO.

Rule 47B(iii). Anything which goes against the grain will attract the harshest sanction.

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

I may well know it's wrong, but you have no proof that I do. Just like you have no proof of your other gum-flapping calumnies on this topic. That's right isn't it? You don't have any proof, do you?

There is no need for proof, he just shouldn't be allowed to play for a year which was left on his contract...I am not saying you guy's set it up I am saying the rules shouldn't allow it to occur.....I notice you didn't reply to the Spida statement?

 

[Embers]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

I don't think it will happen, particularly if the Lions do act as promise.

If any club is going to take him with his outside interests, it would be us.

I think he is a good player and would add something to our backline but really, I don't know why we would use our pick when we could get someone young.

Like Jason Cloke or Aaron Henneman. Your gonna use a PSD pick and Michael is the best possible. If i was a Bombers fan id be doing cartwheels

 

[The Kipster]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Rule 47B(iii). Anything which goes against the grain will attract the harshest sanction.

that is funny....

 

[ant555]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Who needs documents to prove it hes with Essendon now isnt he I mean if he wanted to retire he wouldnt be playing football would he.

Another totally narrow minded view. So what you are saying is there is no possible way that he could have really wanted to retire, moved to Melbourne and then had cold feet about the retirement part after thinking about it for a number of weeks and realising what he was missing out on?

 

[Oh Furious One]

I’m really happy about this.

Whoever thinks Michael is past it is clearly delusional. I’m just glad I will be able to see one of my favorite players running around in the AFL again next year, regardless of the team.

 

[Longy413]

The only proof needed is that it is against the spirit of the game and you a part of it...is that enough proof.....jeez your highly strung Longy

Highly strung? I'm laughing here, your arguement is extremely amusing. All that's missing from an all-round afternoon of quality entertainment is a few cans.

Move on everyone, this could get bigger than the Essendon Optimism thread

We should drag that up, we've got something else to add to it

 

[one_twelve112]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Another totally narrow minded view. So what you are saying is there is no possible way that he could have really wanted to retire, moved to Melbourne and then had cold feet about the retirement part after thinking about it for a number of weeks and realising what he was missing out on?

You sound like the type of person that would say "yes i'll be there at 2:30pm to pick you up, or yes, I'll take the job, i'll be there on Monday" and not turn up because you had a 'change of heart' and think it's ok because you made a 'mistake'. Thankfully I don't employ/have friends like you.....

 

[The Kipster]

^^ quite funny their Longy...cheers

 

[DaSawx]

We should drag that up, we've got something else to add to it

yeah, apparently we should have been recruiting aggressively all along, here it is

 

[loyallion]

Re: Essendon sign Mal Michaels

Another totally narrow minded view. So what you are saying is there is no possible way that he could have really wanted to retire, moved to Melbourne and then had cold feet about the retirement part after thinking about it for a number of weeks and realising what he was missing out on?

The point im trying to make is If he truly wanted to retire he would not have wanted to play football again which is the meaning of retire.Why make a decision to retire when you are still not sure what you want to do all im saying is he should have thought about it alittle longer instead of saying I am retiring only to come back after a month and play with another team.No I dont think he really did have the intention to retire at all he just wanted to get away from the lions because they werent going to do what he wanted so he wants in with a team that does which happens to be with essendon.

 

[Ari]

What a very, very interesting read!

Welcome aboard Mal!!

True though that if Essendon and Mal conspired to do this and have his contract with the lions extinguished then it was a low dog act. That said, it's business and it happens. There's a loophole there, and it was used. Pretty normal for Essendon to do that.

If it was as simple as Mal deciding to retire because Brisbane wouldnt come to terms with a modified training program then thats something entirely different. If Essendon then said he could have the freedom he wanted, and after retiring Mal felt that he was left empty and wanted to keep going.... then yes, so be it. As Danni said... people make decisions in life, then change them. Happens all the time.

For all those Brissy supporters who feel hard done by, all I can say is you guys had him at his prime. He was a part of 3 premierships. He helped enjoy them with you, but was also hands on in delivering them. Dont forget that.

Shall be interesting to see what happens next!