F1 F1 2024 thread

[happy_eagle]

Dan is/was cooked.

Not to the Perez kind of level, but he had nothing left to give.

When he left yeh, but I wonder if they had said to him ahead of time that he'd have the back end of the year to drive the Red Bull whether that would have re-invigorated him. I think he would have performed better than Perez is currently, but thats a very low bar.

 

[juice t]

The fact he's going to Haas, and that they are battling for 6th in the WDC makes this an especially interesting decision

Gasly seems fine carrying them to 6th

 

[jabba5114]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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[Gunf]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Having been a topic of conversation elsewhere on the web over the years. The only way I could think of doing this would be to have a combined two laps. You have an order whichever way it is. Whoever is last in the first run is first to go on the second run. WHoever is first to go on the first run is last on the second run.

 

[happy_eagle]

Kinda sad to see Lewis' time at Mercedes ending like this. Should be celebrated as their all time greatest driver, but appears like they are glad to be rid of him, and him of them.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Hmm it would suck for Colapinto but i would promote Yuki to the Redbull next to Ver.

And promote Hadjar to the RB next to Lawson.

They won't promote yuki and he knows it.

I'm not convinced on hadjar either.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm unashamedly a DRic fan, and really for me it just seems that it would have been a safe option to put DR in the #2 seat at RB for the second half of this year, calculated what the options were and left the door open for him in 25 if the exact right option wasn't there. It appears now, after the past few races, that DR was contributing reasonably solidly for VC

It also could have given them some security knowing that 25 is going to be full of will he/won't he crap about Max.

It shows you while DR is past his best the car and not the driver is the problem.

 

[jabba5114]

The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

Championship order. No second chances make a mistake your position is screwed

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[happy_eagle]

I dont think I will ever warm to George Russell

 

[Cromulant]

There's being full of yourself, and then there's George Russell.

 

[Festerz]

 

[FR0GGY]

Valteri to replace Sergio?

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Valteri to replace Sergio?

Unless Marko doesn't think he's a loser anymore, can't see it. And if you click on that filter, the only item it brings up is a Sauber model helmet, so I think it's just an attribution error.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Dan is/was cooked.

Not to the Perez kind of level, but he had nothing left to give.

Nico came back into F1 at a similar age. Would people have said he was cooked also?

I do tend to agree with the sentiment that DRic doesn't seem the same driver he was and that Nico driving for Haas isn't the same as a RBR seat, but I also suspect all of the Red Bull cars (including VCarb) are disntictly mediocre - it's just that Max is an astoundingly good driver and if anyone else was in that seat they would be close to (but maybe not quite as bad as) where Checo is now.

 

[Cromulant]

Nico came back into F1 at a similar age. Would people have said he was cooked also?

I do tend to agree with the sentiment that DRic doesn't seem the same driver he was and that Nico driving for Haas isn't the same as a RBR seat, but I also suspect all of the Red Bull cars (including VCarb) are disntictly mediocre - it's just that Max is an astoundingly good driver and if anyone else was in that seat they would be close to (but maybe not quite as bad as) where Checo is now.

This is pretty much it.

Max likes his cars setup in such a way that unless you're at the top of your game they are nearly impossible to drive. That's not giving Perez an excuse as such, but he's well past his peak clearly.

 

[skam85]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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Definitely should be for Monaco

 

[skam85]

The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

When it was introduced in 2003, it was - Friday, drivers would do their lap in championship order. Then on Saturday it was reversed from Friday's results to set the grid.

I thought that was cool and it allowed for weird fun scenarios like a Minardi on a Friday pole

 

[Jatz]

Kinda sad to see Lewis' time at Mercedes ending like this. Should be celebrated as their all time greatest driver, but appears like they are glad to be rid of him, and him of them.

Been a hard watch.

I'm a bit torn on this.

On the one hand, I get why Mercedes have been (seemingly) prioritising George over Lewis. But as you say, this dominance they created together should have been a love fest until the end.

I absolutely understand why Lewis has had enough of them. The season is pretty bloody long now and if he feels he's getting the rough end of the stick due to his decision, it would feel like it's dragging out badly.

I kind of wonder whether this has become about because Toto/Mercedes felt jilted with finding out about the move through the rumour mill, rather than Lewis telling them directly...

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Somewhat interesting to note with how often the Australian grand prix was the first race of the season and therefore the debut race for many drivers, that with Doohan starting this weekend, the last three Australians would've made their debut somewhere else.

 

[happy_eagle]

Alonso pushing for single lap quali to come back. I'm definitely in.

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I think they should do this for sprint qualifying for the Top 10.
Would help to differentiate the sprints a bit more.

 

[Pugz89]

The question is who decides what order everyone goes in?

As you can bet everyone will want to be last so they get the most track evolution.

FP3 results dictate quali order?

 

[Vader]

If you just had it for Q3, then it can be based on Q2 times.

Makes Q2 a bit more interesting beyond just establishing the Top 10.

I wonder if the broadcasters would want it though. There would be a lot of time when cars are on outlaps/inlaps, and not to mention if a car stuffs up at Turn 1, then they just have to spend the rest of the lap filling air.

I'd like to see it trialed at a sprint next year though.

Supercars probably have it about right, with a top-10 shootout. Drivers who don't qualify in the top-10 don't make the shootout.

As for outlaps - Supercars sends drivers out for their out lap when the previous driver is half-way through their hot lap. This gives them enough time for a short interview with the driver who has just completed their lap, before the next one starts their hot lap. Having said that, I can't see them doing in-car driver interviews with the F1 drivers, as they do in Supercars.

Kayo/Foxtel have to deal with dead air while Ch7 is off on an ad-break after the 3rd & 6th cars, but F1 probably wouldn't have that TV-influenced gap.

I guess this would require Q1 & Q2 to run as normal, with Q3 replaced by a Shootout.

 

[happy_eagle]

Looking more and more likely that

Perez Out
Either Lawson or Tsunoda into the Red Bull

Hadjar into the RB

F1 news: Sergio Perez to LEAVE Red Bull as FIA confirm further Norris punishment

Monday's F1 news features a major development on Sergio Perez's Red Bull future as the FIA confirm an additional punishment for Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

 

[Jatz]

Think either Lawson or Tsunoda into the RB is a mistake.

Don't see Lawson going any better in it than a Gasly/Albon and Tsunoda I don't think will do much better than Perez.