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I've watched the Giants every week. They just haven't sold me that what they're doing is sustainable. The number of comebacks (Brisbane, Hawthorn, Carlton) or just holding on (Fremantle, Melbourne, Carlton again - that game was wild) in their win streak is crazy. Even the Suns game, which ended up being comfortable, didn't feel like it live because the Suns basically kicked themselves out of the game despite being a lot more even on the field.This year looks like a Giants flag to me. They've been answering and taking on all comers. While true that they've managed to sneak a win against Hawks at the last minute, it's their persistence and not giving up that seems to stand out for me. I've noticed they seem to have this extra gear in 3rd and 4th quarters where the smalls start buzzing and opposition can't keep up with them. We struggle on this aspect as well and might potentially be our undoing. They are amazing to watch, similar to Hawks.
It's an omen of sorts that McRae won a premiership in his second year as coach and Kingsley might do the same this year.
I've watched the Giants every week. They just haven't sold me that what they're doing is sustainable. The number of comebacks (Brisbane, Hawthorn, Carlton) or just holding on (Fremantle, Melbourne, Carlton again - that game was wild) in their win streak is crazy. Even the Suns game, which ended up being comfortable, didn't feel like it live because the Suns basically kicked themselves out of the game despite being a lot more even on the field.
All counts for very little though when yes, you're right those teams have had worse losses, but those worst losses haven't impacted them like our two putrid losses when we were 5 goals up throughout the game. They are all top 4 and one of them will likely win a flag while we've failed again. I'd take a 100 point loss if it meant finishing top two and I certainly couldn't give a stuff if we were uncompetitive in any of those losses and were again top 2 or even top 4.Carlton were getting flogged not too long ago. Freo have been on a bigger slide than us. Sydney has had losses 100 times worse than ours in the last month. Geelong just lost comprehensively to the Saints who we destroyed a few weeks back.
Not sure how two close losses fuels that logic. Yes it's disappointing the way they happened with us getting a lead and then getting run over in the last, but pretty much every other team in the top 8 has had games in the last month or two where they've been completely uncompetitive. We have not.
Yes the Giants are weird. They are miles behind in all the premiership metrics. Basically if they win it all this year they will literally force Champion Data to rewrite their entire framework.I've watched the Giants every week. They just haven't sold me that what they're doing is sustainable. The number of comebacks (Brisbane, Hawthorn, Carlton) or just holding on (Fremantle, Melbourne, Carlton again - that game was wild) in their win streak is crazy. Even the Suns game, which ended up being comfortable, didn't feel like it live because the Suns basically kicked themselves out of the game despite being a lot more even on the field.
Weakest team? As in the worst side in the 8 or just weakest as in mentally and physically?Feels like we're pretty comfortably the weakest team in the 8
I agree. I get that sports fandom can lean towards the negative (at the end of the day the person we feel most sorry for when we lose is ourselves) but we still have a great shot here. The difference between 4th and 5th is basically one more away game, and only if we would have won week 1 to Sydney - otherwise it's instead of away, home, away, neutral we will get home, away, away, neutral. And we're probably now on the better side of the draw if results go as expected.We'll win it from here. Bookmark it.
Records are there to be broken.Catching up on some of the footy shows and some pretty damning records.
First is our record at the MCG in 5 of our last 6 games there.
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Second is our away record since we’ve consistently made finals since 2019
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To go with our home record of 4 wins and 4 losses.
And we’re expecting to go one home win and 3 away wins when we’ve only one once away in the finals and also win at the MCG where our recent record is even worse.
Hell of an ask and completely squandered a golden opportunity all due to our past games.
I reckon 90-95% wrote us off after round 7 and the boys got themselves back into contention by pure guts and determination and talent and by fixing up the poor goal kicking.The one metric, which none of us will know on here perhaps until this Saturday night, is how the last 2 weeks have effected the group mentally.
They would know they’ve pissed up against the wall a top 2/4 spot largely of their own doing and with that they would also know that it has got a lot harder if we want to make it back there on GF day.
Now that can either spur the group on to prove people wrong, or have the opposite effect and completely flatten the group and it could see them just let the season just peter out.
This is the unknown for me. We have the talent. Do we have it between the ears now and the motivation to kick again after we’ve already had to do it once this year just to get back to the finals?
To be clear, I don't any real science around my claim. It just feels like it's the kind of thing that is likely to happen in this season.I agree. I get that sports fandom can lean towards the negative (at the end of the day the person we feel most sorry for when we lose is ourselves) but we still have a great shot here. The difference between 4th and 5th is basically one more away game, and only if we would have won week 1 to Sydney - otherwise it's instead of away, home, away, neutral we will get home, away, away, neutral. And we're probably now on the better side of the draw if results go as expected.
Still a red hot chance for mine and accuracy is some skill but a lot of luck - Champion Data often point to the fact it evens out over time. I'd have us favourites for all of Blues at home, Geelong at G (arguably neutral), Port away (probably no Houston too) and then a 50/50 GF.
I want to be proven wrong but I don't think we do; I think the loss to the Giants knocked any hope they had, it all just became too hard for them.Do we have it between the ears now and the motivation to kick again after we’ve already had to do it once this year just to get back to the finals?
It may well have been a loss that shouldn’t have happened on the weekend but it wasn’t a Grand Final.I want to be proven wrong but I don't think we do; I think the loss to the Giants knocked any hope they had, it all just became too hard for them.
Even with a win or a convincing win against Essendon won't change my mind. Had we beaten Collingwood, I would have been hopeful, but that loss last Saturday was so diabolically bad that they've no hope now. Our finals record since 2019 says as much.
Its all well and good for Lachie and Harris to group them in the middle last week and be saying things like we can't let this happen again and everything else, but when one of those finals away games is in the heat battle and become all too hard, do you really reckon anyone will remember Lachie and Harris little talk in the middle of the MCG?
I'm not
We will get a pretty good idea this week against Essendon.We should dominate this game.If not we are not in the frame of mind to do any damage in teh finals.The one metric, which none of us will know on here perhaps until this Saturday night, is how the last 2 weeks have effected the group mentally.
They would know they’ve pissed up against the wall a top 2/4 spot largely off the back of their own doing and with that they would also know that it has got a lot harder if we want to make it back there on GF day.
Now that can either spur the group on to prove people wrong, or have the opposite effect and completely flatten the group and it could see them just let the season just peter out.
This is the unknown for me. We have the talent. Do we have it between the ears now and the motivation to kick again after we’ve already had to do it once this year just to get back to the finals?
Are you really going to take much from this game though.We will get a pretty good idea this week against Essendon.We should dominate this game.If not we are not in the frame of mind to do any damage in teh finals.