Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[Gadzorks]

On a footy note - love this from the pies coach. He's totally in their heads and hearts. They'll do anything for him - it's why they play beyond themselves

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/pies-coach-craig-mcrae-blasts-own-players-over-their-postgame-conduct/news-story/fd3f7f2893b77018780f770cae7d9845

 

[FLVanLandingham]

I wonder if Schools around the Country could incorporate an Indigenous dialogue that is native to the area of the School as a lesson instead of French, German, Japanese or Spanish?
Maybe a class learning the language and the cultures.
We all need to learn more.

when i lived in cairns (kuranda specifically), my elder siblings during primary school did a program where they learned the local dialect there.

but that was a location with a higher emphasis/cultural knowledge etc of indigenous culture.

pretty cool stuff

 

[FeastOrFamine]

the compulsory australian history subject i received in high school was centered around the first european explorers to visit australia and the first fleet + colony

we did not touch on indigenous history at all really. either pre colonisation or post colonisation

it could have changed in the 10 years since then, but i felt like that was a pretty big omission in my high school education. at the very least people should know about the stolen generation so they know nuffies like andrew bolt are talking rubbish when they say its fake

Our HSIE classes from years 8-10 had portions that were entirely devoted to the stolen generation and the impact of colonialism on aboriginal people.

We did a lot of source analysis work on intergenerational trauma and its impacts to this day. We also did do work on indigenous culture early on in high school which was interesting. It's nice to see this topic get the coverage it needs because the blatant ignorance of some in society is quite disheartening, however, everyone has an opportunity to learn and change.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Our HSIE classes from years 8-10 had portions that were entirely devoted to the stolen generation and the impact of colonialism on aboriginal people.

We did a lot of source analysis work on intergenerational trauma and its impacts to this day. We also did do work on indigenous culture early on in high school which was interesting. It's nice to see this topic get the coverage it needs because the blatant ignorance of some in society is quite disheartening, however, everyone has an opportunity to learn and change.

The next version of the history curriculum includes content on indigenous Australia pre-settlement as well which has been a shameful blind spot in the past.

Of course the Murdoch media useful idiots will accuse us of wokeism for having the temerity to acknowledge the oldest living civilisation on Earth.

 

[martinson]

The next version of the history curriculum includes content on indigenous Australia pre-settlement as well which has been a shameful blind spot in the past.

Of course the Murdoch media useful idiots will accuse us of wokeism for having the temerity to acknowledge the oldest living civilisation on Earth.

I don't think confrontation and putting fire to disagreements is the answer though. The understanding and acknowledgement of indigenous culture is pushing ahead in leaps and bounds both within the younger population and corporate Australia. To focus too much on those who don't have an interest or are outright deniers is the wrong strategy. Those comments are just general in nature and not directed at your specific comments Hollow Knight.

It interests me that you are a History teacher. I've got an overdone obsession with particular eras in history . What specific areas do you teach in ? Feel free not to answer if that's a personal matter.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I don't think confrontation and putting fire to disagreements is the answer though. The understanding and acknowledgement of indigenous culture is pushing ahead in leaps and bounds both within the younger population and corporate Australia. To focus too much on those who don't have an interest or are outright deniers is the wrong strategy. Those comments are just general in nature and not directed at your specific comments Hollow Knight.

It interests me that you are a History teacher. I've got an overdone obsession with particular eras in history . What specific areas do you teach in ? Feel free not to answer if that's a personal matter.

I teach year 7-12 so pretty much everything in the ACARA history curriculum except in year 11-12 where I teach exclusively modern history, not ancient.

 

[martinson]

I teach year 7-12 so pretty much everything in the ACARA history curriculum except in year 11-12 where I teach exclusively modern history, not ancient.

I wish I had the interest in history that I have now than when I was at school when my mind was fertile. And only interested in sport.

Fwiiw the WW1 and particularly the WW2 era fascinates me . It's probably sparked by personal issues.

Also taken on board the US civil war.

It teaches us so much to look into the past. Once you start up the rabbit borough is never ending.

I don't read any fiction books any more.

 

[AFLQLD]

The next version of the history curriculum includes content on indigenous Australia pre-settlement as well which has been a shameful blind spot in the past.

Of course the Murdoch media useful idiots will accuse us of wokeism for having the temerity to acknowledge the oldest living civilisation on Earth.

It has been an absolute blind spot for far too long and has led in part to indigenous culture being far less acknowledged and celebrated for its unique, timeless aspects.

While it is important as an Australian educated in the history of our own country, to know about the many injustices, crimes and failings that have occurred since European settlement, it is equally important to know that indigenous culture is, or was, as rich and robust as any other and thrived for millennia.

International visitors I have hosted are rarely intrigued by our history since 1788, it seems somewhat mundane in many ways when they might live in places with over a thousand years of recorded history. They are far more fascinated to learn that a culture that evolved to live on this continent without modern tools and technology not only did so, but did so for tens of thousands of years. Hopefully more Australians will come to appreciate what we have.

 

[royboy2]

An Indigenous friend of mine posts things like this quite often, as she is on the lighter side its something she has to deal with all the time

 

[Nunez]

An Indigenous friend of mine posts things like this quite often, as she is on the lighter side its something she has to deal with all the time


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Sorry mate, only tea #1 can do the welcome to country.

 

[Sanchez365]

My only problem with the welcome to country was that it was the same prerecorded version they have been using for years. Could the AFL not afford to get a new video recorded each year?

 

[MSB ROYS]

My only problem with the welcome to country was that it was the same prerecorded version they have been using for years. Could the AFL not afford to get a new video recorded each year?

Should have been done live for finals.

 

[lionraven]

Sorry mate, only tea #1 can do the welcome to country.

Such a weird tangent to go off on. Of all the things to impact on my Gabba viewing experience, the welcome to country would be the least.

I know some people don't like the little song after our team scores but I personally dont mind it as it gives us some individuality and lets the players express themselves. What I don't like is whoever made the moronic decision to start playing music for the opposition goals. Are they stupid? You want to encourage a partisan atmosphere in your home ground. Why would you play anything to encourage away fans (apart from what is necessary as far as tradition goes in terms of team songs)?

 

[KissKiss]

My only problem with the welcome to country was that it was the same prerecorded version they have been using for years. Could the AFL not afford to get a new video recorded each year?

Its a really well done version but I was surprised it was re-used. Just assumed a live one would happen

 

[Mr Ripper]

Its also hard to hear the voice over - its Shannon Rusca who talks, the lad that played for the Lions i think when we first became the Brisbane Lions?

Different blokes.

 

[Section 5]

Media rights deal has been mentioned in the trade thread
But i will put a link up here

The details from the AFL are as follows:

Broadcast live and free nationally on the Seven Network and 7+ digital will be AFL on Thursday nights, Friday nights, selected Saturday nights, Sunday afternoons, Marquee matches, the Brownlow Medal, all AFL Finals and the AFL Grand Final.

• The first 15 rounds of the AFL Premiership Season to feature Thursday night matches on the Seven Network and 7+ digital
• Saturday night matches in the last eight rounds
• All marquee matches will be live and free (Dreamtime, Anzac Eve, Anzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday and Queen’s Birthday) plus at least three additional marquee matches – such as the season opener and Queen’s Birthday Eve.
• Broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo will be every single AFL/AFLW home and away match, every AFL/AFLW final (excluding the AFL Grand Final), all pre-season matches – and all with their own Fox Footy commentary teams. Foxtel/Kayo will also broadcast all AFL events including the AFL draft and Awards nights (excluding the Brownlow).
• Foxtel/Kayo will own Saturday in the first eight rounds of each AFL season, broadcasting exclusively live all games in all timeslots, which the exception of Anzac Eve, Anzac Day and Dreamtime if they were to fall on a Saturday.

Seven and Foxtel to keep AFL rights in record $4.5bn seven-year deal

Agreement gives the code full control over production of games and secures a package of digital rights for 7plus

www.theguardian.com

 

[Viceregal]

Media rights deal has been mentioned in the trade thread
But i will put a link up here

The details from the AFL are as follows:

Broadcast live and free nationally on the Seven Network and 7+ digital will be AFL on Thursday nights, Friday nights, selected Saturday nights, Sunday afternoons, Marquee matches, the Brownlow Medal, all AFL Finals and the AFL Grand Final.

• The first 15 rounds of the AFL Premiership Season to feature Thursday night matches on the Seven Network and 7+ digital
• Saturday night matches in the last eight rounds
• All marquee matches will be live and free (Dreamtime, Anzac Eve, Anzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday and Queen’s Birthday) plus at least three additional marquee matches – such as the season opener and Queen’s Birthday Eve.
• Broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo will be every single AFL/AFLW home and away match, every AFL/AFLW final (excluding the AFL Grand Final), all pre-season matches – and all with their own Fox Footy commentary teams. Foxtel/Kayo will also broadcast all AFL events including the AFL draft and Awards nights (excluding the Brownlow).
• Foxtel/Kayo will own Saturday in the first eight rounds of each AFL season, broadcasting exclusively live all games in all timeslots, which the exception of Anzac Eve, Anzac Day and Dreamtime if they were to fall on a Saturday.

Seven and Foxtel to keep AFL rights in record $4.5bn seven-year deal

Agreement gives the code full control over production of games and secures a package of digital rights for 7plus

www.theguardian.com

Guessing that is referring to the national broadcasting and Mate will still be showing all the Lions/Suns games in Qld when not in the above listed slots?

 

[FLVanLandingham]

Guessing that is referring to the national broadcasting and Mate will still be showing all the Lions/Suns games in Qld when not in the above listed slots?

• Outside Victoria, the match involving the local team will be broadcast live into the local market on the Seven Network and 7+ digital except for selected matches on holdbacks.

though with this later point, maybe not on Saturdays;

• Foxtel / Kayo will own Saturday in the first eight rounds of each AFL season, broadcasting exclusively live all games in all timeslots, which the exception of Anzac Eve, Anzac Day and Dreamtime if they were to fall on a Saturday.

Am i wrong. or is this the first time we can watch on 7+ digital? I'm guessing this will only be allowed live, will have to go to the afl site for rewatching later

 

[rye]

Media rights deal has been mentioned in the trade thread
But i will put a link up here

The details from the AFL are as follows:

Broadcast live and free nationally on the Seven Network and 7+ digital will be AFL on Thursday nights, Friday nights, selected Saturday nights, Sunday afternoons, Marquee matches, the Brownlow Medal, all AFL Finals and the AFL Grand Final.

• The first 15 rounds of the AFL Premiership Season to feature Thursday night matches on the Seven Network and 7+ digital
• Saturday night matches in the last eight rounds
• All marquee matches will be live and free (Dreamtime, Anzac Eve, Anzac Day, Good Friday, Easter Monday and Queen’s Birthday) plus at least three additional marquee matches – such as the season opener and Queen’s Birthday Eve.
• Broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo will be every single AFL/AFLW home and away match, every AFL/AFLW final (excluding the AFL Grand Final), all pre-season matches – and all with their own Fox Footy commentary teams. Foxtel/Kayo will also broadcast all AFL events including the AFL draft and Awards nights (excluding the Brownlow).
• Foxtel/Kayo will own Saturday in the first eight rounds of each AFL season, broadcasting exclusively live all games in all timeslots, which the exception of Anzac Eve, Anzac Day and Dreamtime if they were to fall on a Saturday.

Seven and Foxtel to keep AFL rights in record $4.5bn seven-year deal

Agreement gives the code full control over production of games and secures a package of digital rights for 7plus

www.theguardian.com

going to be honest i absolutely hate paying for kayo

shithouse service, constantly dropping out, doesnt remember where you are of you exit a video (frequently have to do so if im watching a replay to get it to reload), no timestamps

i only really use it for AFL so the price is extremely frustrating for me as well considering what im paying for with the service you get

the fact you can get a netflix subscription for less than half the price each month of a Kayo subscription is outrageous

more games on that horrible platform can only be a bad thing fmpov and i think within 2-3 years of this deal the streaming market will have become more competitive and afl house will realise that this provider sucks

 

[FLVanLandingham]

I think AFL share your views

• We acknowledge Foxtel’s investment in Kayo to bring the leading sports streaming product to all Australians – and we are witnessing the growth every week.

lets hope that growth... grows faster.

 

[Section 5]

Guessing that is referring to the national broadcasting and Mate will still be showing all the Lions/Suns games in Qld when not in the above listed slots?

Not sure it is stating that in the article for SEQ
However that has previously been the case so hope it stays the same
The agreement is most likely very long winded and they have just released the basics
I think the AFL would still like to get maximum coverage into the Rugby League States of Qld and NSW

 

[Sanchez365]

going to be honest i absolutely hate paying for kayo

shithouse service, constantly dropping out, doesnt remember where you are of you exit a video (frequently have to do so if im watching a replay to get it to reload), no timestamps

i only really use it for AFL so the price is extremely frustrating for me as well considering what im paying for with the service you get

the fact you can get a netflix subscription for less than half the price each month of a Kayo subscription is outrageous

more games on that horrible platform can only be a bad thing fmpov and i think within 2-3 years of this deal the streaming market will have become more competitive and afl house will realise that this provider sucks

I've been using the AFL official streaming service since 2011 and it has always been dogshit. It was also noticeably worsemaybe 5 years ago when going from a Melbourne game (zero drop outs) to a Brisbane game (buffering every 10mins). Used to drive me crazy.

Besides the price, my only complaint with Kayo has been the stupid tagging of Goals and Behinds on the video tracker. Besides never wanting to see that information there ever, it's also infuriating when you are trying to watch a delayed game, and the tracker messes up and you see all the scores before you start watching.

That and when you start the game "from start" but the first frame is the "from live" one.

 

[Lazza16]

going to be honest i absolutely hate paying for kayo

shithouse service, constantly dropping out, doesnt remember where you are of you exit a video (frequently have to do so if im watching a replay to get it to reload), no timestamps

i only really use it for AFL so the price is extremely frustrating for me as well considering what im paying for with the service you get

the fact you can get a netflix subscription for less than half the price each month of a Kayo subscription is outrageous

more games on that horrible platform can only be a bad thing fmpov and i think within 2-3 years of this deal the streaming market will have become more competitive and afl house will realise that this provider sucks

I like the Kayo...get thru my monthly telsta account $15....start watching a game 30 mins after start then just fast forward thru breaks.

 

[davemc_lions]

I've been using the AFL official streaming service since 2011 and it has always been dogshit. It was also noticeably worsemaybe 5 years ago when going from a Melbourne game (zero drop outs) to a Brisbane game (buffering every 10mins). Used to drive me crazy.

Besides the price, my only complaint with Kayo has been the stupid tagging of Goals and Behinds on the video tracker. Besides never wanting to see that information there ever, it's also infuriating when you are trying to watch a delayed game, and the tracker messes up and you see all the scores before you start watching.

That and when you start the game "from start" but the first frame is the "from live" one.

you can turn off the goal tracker.
I do if I watch from behind. Or spend longer at a break then the break is
on desktop you can toggle on and off. Another toggle on phone app.
I also if late to a game do not look at the top half of screen as it shows the scores
Eyes down

I do use it if I watching a neutral game and turn in late to go through the goals before I started watching.
Just have to hit the back button a few times to watch the play leading up to it.
Or re watch some of the goals

 

[CarterS]

The Queen meeting Fitzroy players in 1970. RIP.