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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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If we could move into the top 10 imagine it would involve our future first and both picks in the 20s I would guess.

But would love us to have a crack at getting Nick Watson or Nate Caddy. Nick probably less likely but both are that 5-10 range.
 
Soapy V said:
I’m open to anything Juddy but my feel is if we can get players in now the better. A pick 9 who is a gun will make a real difference in a year or two and we are in the window. Next year we will have Campo boys.

A top 10 pick now could be exactly what we need
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And just as important as having the picks, we have a list manager who he can fully trust with the picks.
 

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swuzzlebubble said:
Having two seconds and three 4ths should be enough for an exemption
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You wouldn't need an exemption if you got a 2nd back for the 1st.
You would need an exemption to trade out our 1st with nothing coming back, but, I think we would be a reasonable chance. Those 2 extra 4ths for a total of 3 from teams who didn't make the 8 might be enough to cover the missing 3rd.
 
bigm386 said:
If we could move into the top 10 imagine it would involve our future first and both picks in the 20s I would guess.

But would love us to have a crack at getting Nick Watson or Nate Caddy. Nick probably less likely but both are that 5-10 range.
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Any team trading out of the top 10 this year is going to exact a heavy toll.

Geelong seem to be the most likely candidate. Suggestions they want Sanders, and if he's not there at 8 they may be willing to move back if the deal favours them.

Now, I know Geelong don't need points - so don't come at me on that front. I am going to use the points to roughly illustrate how I think a deal might look if we were to trade with them.

Pick 8 - 1551 pts, but it's going to be Pick 10 by the time bids for Walters and Read are factored in - takes it to 1395pts.

Our Pick 22 is likely to end up at 27 once all first round bids are accounted for. Similarly, our Pick 28 will be around Pick 30. They come in at around 1332pts. So we're short on value, and that's without even considering that we'd be expected to overpay to move up into the top 10.

Our future first could fairly be assumed to land around the same spot next year - Pick 16 before any academy or compensation pick adjustments (which can't be predicted yet). That's 1067pts.

22 (actually 27) plus our future first is technically overs, but only by the equivalent of a very late third rounder. I don't think that gets is done.

27 + 30 + our future first seems more likely, but then given it's overs by a late first rounder which I'd suggest is too steep a price to pay.

Geelong also have Pick 25 (will end up at 28), but given it's between our picks I'm not sure involving it helps the situation at all.

We do know we likely want points for next year though. Geelong will back themselves to make the 8 again (unless they plan on doing a little sneaky tanking), so their future second would maybe be around the Pick 31-32 mark (allowing for the NM compo picks already awarded).

So maybe something like 27 + 30 + future first (~16) for 10 (Caddy) and a future second (~31).
 
If we want Geelongs pick we are better off waiting till draft night. Their pick will likely be the last of the top group of players

If the guy left is one they like then the price of the pick will be out of reach. If it's not however, the price will be more reasonable.

A bit like us in 2019 when we got left with Flanders as the last guy in that top group. We didnt happen to rate him so moved on the pick for 17 and 22 which wasn't a ridiculous price.

Also, guarantees a guy we want is still there as there will be guys in that top group we don't want either.
 

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marcmurphy3 said:
If we want Geelongs pick we are better off waiting till draft night. Their pick will likely be the last of the top group of players

If the guy left is one they like then the price of the pick will be out of reach. If it's not however, the price will be more reasonable.

A bit like us in 2019 when we got left with Flanders as the last guy in that top group. We didnt happen to rate him so moved on the pick for 17 and 22 which wasn't a ridiculous price.

Also, guarantees a guy we want is still there as there will be guys in that top group we don't want either.
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If we can get the Cats’ pick now for a price we believe to be acceptable then we should go for it. We can always trade it down if the player we wants isn’t there and get back to something similar to what we have now anyway. The top ten will shift a bit in the coming weeks so we can’t assume someone we have in our top 5 won’t be there with Pick 8/10. I think just go for it. Trade the future first and the two second rounders and get someone who could very well be best 22 by the pointy end of the 2024 season.


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Blue__Balls said:
Any team trading out of the top 10 this year is going to exact a heavy toll.

Geelong seem to be the most likely candidate. Suggestions they want Sanders, and if he's not there at 8 they may be willing to move back if the deal favours them.

Now, I know Geelong don't need points - so don't come at me on that front. I am going to use the points to roughly illustrate how I think a deal might look if we were to trade with them.

Pick 8 - 1551 pts, but it's going to be Pick 10 by the time bids for Walters and Read are factored in - takes it to 1395pts.

Our Pick 22 is likely to end up at 27 once all first round bids are accounted for. Similarly, our Pick 28 will be around Pick 30. They come in at around 1332pts. So we're short on value, and that's without even considering that we'd be expected to overpay to move up into the top 10.

Our future first could fairly be assumed to land around the same spot next year - Pick 16 before any academy or compensation pick adjustments (which can't be predicted yet). That's 1067pts.

22 (actually 27) plus our future first is technically overs, but only by the equivalent of a very late third rounder. I don't think that gets is done.

27 + 30 + our future first seems more likely, but then given it's overs by a late first rounder which I'd suggest is too steep a price to pay.

Geelong also have Pick 25 (will end up at 28), but given it's between our picks I'm not sure involving it helps the situation at all.

We do know we likely want points for next year though. Geelong will back themselves to make the 8 again (unless they plan on doing a little sneaky tanking), so their future second would maybe be around the Pick 31-32 mark (allowing for the NM compo picks already awarded).

So maybe something like 27 + 30 + future first (~16) for 10 (Caddy) and a future second (~31).
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The problem with this is that we'll only get one player from the draft this year

I would rather we keep our current picks and draft two players this year; and leaving F1 for more flexibility next year
 

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