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So is Foley a must-keep for you's....., If Hawthorn & Richmond wee both after Stanton who would you say he would pick?

I would expect that if both offered the same $, then he would go to the Hawks unfortunately. Richmond should have the ability to offer more though - Hawthorn can't have much cap space??

Stanton is one of the few free agents I would be very keen to chase.
 
I really only like a few FA's:

Stanton - Would make our midfield unbeatable. Hightly doubtful though - looks like he is about to re-sign, and would no doubt field offers from many clubs if he did want to leave.
Chaplin - Could be a good one. Just what we need, but are Port now trade enemies with us? You'd have to think that DH knows him well so maybe that could help if we do chase him?
Knights - handy HFF/mid. Would love to see him come to richmond but crows rate him and would fight hard for him.

These guys are of a good age (born 1986 or thereabouts) and would fill needs in the team. Other than that I don't see many other realistic targets. Not that I am any kind of expert. Don't see Merrett on the AFL's List, but at nearly 28 now, he may be just too old to get the best value out of him anyway.

Thoughts?
 

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knights would be good. has been slowed with injury. good to very good player when up and about. would be happy to take a punt on him.

stanton would be great. be very hard to get him though.
 
Its funny Rammbo, but i could see Tuck at a club like GWS helping those guys out in the middle.

Tuck is a very important player for us ,is having a very good season is durable and still has years left in him, his grunt inside work is still a class above most.

Wont b just gws that shows interest.

im guessing he would b getting underpayed at the moment.
 
Know I said it before. We should only trade ect for guys that fit our development needs. We need guys for 3-8 years from now. That means anyone 25 or older is fairly irelevant unless cheap. The free agent system will be awesome for us on 2-3 years when we cna get someone the right age and talent to fit into a team about to become contenders. Right now I can't see why we should go for someone good, they won't really help us now and might be gone when we need someone.

Trading for a younger player is a different kettle of fish. Many other teams want the free agents because their age structure is right. We are nearly there, but not quite IMHO.
 

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I dought we hav a list that will win a flag just by adding youngsters each year we must add quality mature players as well and this is the opportunity to do it .

Sitting out and being a cheapskate in this process THIS YEAR is definately not the way to go..
 
I dought we hav a list that will win a flag just by adding youngsters each year we must add quality mature players as well and this is the opportunity to do it .

Sitting out and being a cheapskate in this process THIS YEAR is definately not the way to go..

Do you mean we must go and get a free agent this year, no matter what?
I hope not. What I meant was simply that the age of the free agents is pretty much too old for us given the age of our list. We don't need expensive older guys to support our development. Getting a couple more Grigg/Houli/Maric's would be great. In 2-3 the guys coming into free agency will be the perfect age for our list - as we hit the stage of being real competitors.
I hope our footy department works this out and front loads some contracts to allow lots of room to get someone good to go for the title. Also allows us to go for trades with $ in the meantime. I reckon a few good youngsters will come up from GC & GWS. We might just open a big door to add quality to a very good team - and free agency could be a big part of that. But going for it just because it is there is stupid. Play it smart and we might have a real go at a title before GWS wins 5 in a row.
 
In 2-3 the guys coming into free agency will be the perfect age for our list - as we hit the stage of being real competitors.

Or in 2-3 the guys we sign through free agency this year will have their contracts expire, and we can just sign some more. Works both ways.

Expect Hartley to be across it all, knowing who comes out when, and what we need to go after.
 
Do you mean we must go and get a free agent this year, no matter what?
I hope not. What I meant was simply that the age of the free agents is pretty much too old for us given the age of our list. We don't need expensive older guys to support our development. Getting a couple more Grigg/Houli/Maric's would be great. In 2-3 the guys coming into free agency will be the perfect age for our list - as we hit the stage of being real competitors.
I hope our footy department works this out and front loads some contracts to allow lots of room to get someone good to go for the title. Also allows us to go for trades with $ in the meantime. I reckon a few good youngsters will come up from GC & GWS. We might just open a big door to add quality to a very good team - and free agency could be a big part of that. But going for it just because it is there is stupid. Play it smart and we might have a real go at a title before GWS wins 5 in a row.
For a start i dont think a 27 year old is too old for our list any one that could b an upgrade on what we hav now is an option,of course there has to b limits on lengths of contracts and payments.

I can see where you r coming from but i believe we should take the opportunities that now exist , you snooze you lose.
 
A cheap 27 year old - yes. But free agency isn't for the cheap guys, it's for the more expensive end. We can afford it, but I want to see the money spent with a 3-5 year plan in place to give us the best shot at a premiership, not to improve now and have a costly guy on the slide just when we need a guy at his peak. Another couple of trades like the last few years and I will be very happy.
I think we mostly all agree with a few issues about timing. I trust the current mod in charge, and will be very interested in what happens. I reckon getting involved and pushing the price of guys up for other teams whilst incurring no cost to us sounds like a good startegy if we can't get who we want. Machiavelli is my guide in this.
 
A cheap 27 year old - yes. But free agency isn't for the cheap guys, it's for the more expensive end. We can afford it, but I want to see the money spent with a 3-5 year plan in place to give us the best shot at a premiership, not to improve now and have a costly guy on the slide just when we need a guy at his peak. Another couple of trades like the last few years and I will be very happy.
I think we mostly all agree with a few issues about timing. I trust the current mod in charge, and will be very interested in what happens. I reckon getting involved and pushing the price of guys up for other teams whilst incurring no cost to us sounds like a good startegy if we can't get who we want. Machiavelli is my guide in this.
How many "expensive" guys <25yo do you ever see getting let go, as free agents?
It doesn't make it easier to get well-paid, young players out of a club.

IMHO it'll only really come into play in a couple of ways.
1) the odd side will make a big, short term play for the 'missing link' - ie similar to Pies chasing a 28-29yo Jolly, Hawks chasing a 27-28yo Hale.
2) the rest will just be 'meh' players, or players who are OK but well down the pecking order, leaving for somewhere where they will be top of the pecking order (ie your Maric, Houli types)
 
Free agency is for the top 10 paid guys on the list - as I understand anyway. So as far as I understand it you can only go for the more expensive guys on a list via free agency. If it is for everyone then OK. Free agency for Maric/Houli types, if allowed, is different. then a team can just build list cheaply and easily. They don't have to pay out any draft picks or players and just have to pay equal to or more. Would suit us right now, but as far as I understand the plan it isn't for these marginal players. And marginal guys over 25 are not likely to cost much in trades. I thought the point (partly) of free agency is that it is too hard to move the better players so this allows movement.
Free agency is either for a club to make the move to go for a premiership with a missing piece, or someone to just try and buy a good player because they have cap space. It will be interesting to see how it works - how many players want to move down to a club with $ - which usually correlates with not being a contender. The recent GC/GWS thing isn't representative as they have millions spare for this purpose. Ongoing clubs don't have that option.
 
Free agency is for the top 10 paid guys on the list
- as I understand anyway. So as far as I understand it you can only go for the more expensive guys on a list via free agency. If it is for everyone then OK. Free agency for Maric/Houli types, if allowed, is different. then a team can just build list cheaply and easily. They don't have to pay out any draft picks or players and just have to pay equal to or more. Would suit us right now, but as far as I understand the plan it isn't for these marginal players. And marginal guys over 25 are not likely to cost much in trades. I thought the point (partly) of free agency is that it is too hard to move the better players so this allows movement.
Free agency is either for a club to make the move to go for a premiership with a missing piece, or someone to just try and buy a good player because they have cap space. It will be interesting to see how it works - how many players want to move down to a club with $ - which usually correlates with not being a contender. The recent GC/GWS thing isn't representative as they have millions spare for this purpose. Ongoing clubs don't have that option.
Is someone like tuck not entitled to free agency?
 

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