Game against hawks wash up

[tribey]

how can you sleep at night with all of this Reilly pressure on you

I assume you believe his last month has been fantastic?

If you don't think it's time he was sent back to Sturt for a full game there you're kidding yourself.

He's nothing more than a passenger at present.

 

[GoSarge]

Went both ways. Edwards? gets the ball taken off for a push in the back, yet Hentschell was allowed to claim his mark after pushing? The first 2 50s were soft yet they missed the next 2 more deliberate. There was a DOOB that was missed. We all moaned about rhe one against the Cats yet this was just as blatant. I dont mind whinging about the umpires if it is justified, I dont think we had any complaints.Both teams got screwed and confused by the umpires yesterday.

Yeah I was confused by a lot of it, but it went both ways. I'm not one to complain too much about the umps, but a lot of it was confusing. The 'holding the ball' really needs to be looked at. I think that is the most confusing rule in modern day football. A few on the weekend, just completely baffled me.

 

[GoSarge]

I assume you believe his last month has been fantastic?

If you don't think it's time he was sent back to Sturt for a full game there you're kidding yourself.

He's nothing more than a passenger at present.

I agree. In essence, what would it hurt him to go back to Sturt ? He'd probably appreciate some more game time anyway. If he dominates the SANFL select him in the side again. Seemed to work for Hentschell ok.

 

[Mad Dog]

But there is space to play them.There are other candidates and I dont understand the calls for Skippy to have a rest when there are players like Reilly etc who could use a few full games to build some fitness back up ..in preparation for a good hard finals tilt.

Will Knights play finals? No

Will Reilly play finals? More than likely. So I would play Knights a few games NOW and get Reilly fit AND confident for finals.

what PC said....

 

[bluecrow]

Hawks 25

Crows 17

About the same ratio for all non- Victorian teams that beat Victorian teams this week!! Check it out - its a fkg joke.

The umpiring was absolutely disgusting. Those frees for the holding the ball went to Hawthorn every single time, but it was always a ball up or in the back for us

Umpire #15 (Nicholls) slaughtered us in our forward line, he needs to be dropped! The one he paid against Kenny (holding the ball) on the wing/HFF was disgraceful

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

But there is space to play them.There are other candidates and I dont understand the calls for Skippy to have a rest when there are players like Reilly etc who could use a few full games to build some fitness back up ..in preparation for a good hard finals tilt.

Will Knights play finals? No

Will Reilly play finals? More than likely. So I would play Knights a few games NOW and get Reilly fit AND confident for finals.

Why won't Knights play finals?? How do we know he is not good enough from 8 minutes of game time. It p*sses me off the way we use our youngsters. Let's leave them on the list for a couple of years, don't play them and then delist at around age 22, ala Kruger and Smith.

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

Knights and VB must stay in the side this week IMO.

 

[Bockchoy67]

Why won't Knights play finals?? How do we know he is not good enough from 8 minutes of game time. It p*sses me off the way we use our youngsters. Let's leave them on the list for a couple of years, don't play them and then delist at around age 22, ala Kruger and Smith.

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

Knights and VB must stay in the side this week IMO.

We share very similar views Springy.

 

[snakebite01]

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

I'm presuming you are referring to youngsters such as Drummond, Macdonald, Corrie, McGrath, McLaren, Merrett, Selwood and Sherman. Fact is, out of all of these, the only teenager is Sherman who is out of last years draft, all the others are in there 20's.

What we're doing is exactly the same - Mattner, Thompson, Johncock, Skipworth, Rutten, Bock, Hentschel, Reilly and Jericho are in the same boat - all under 22 years of age. But because these guys are performing week in week out we just don't really consider them youngsters, when they are just as young as Brisbane's so called fantastic group coming through.

Give Knights and VB time, we have been presented with a great opportunity to have a crack at the finals and a top 2 spot, being virtually 2 games clear of 3rd, so we should be playing our best 22 each week regardless of age. If we were in a different position on the ladder, then yes, sacrifice some better players for the good of developing youth.

But all this hullabaloo about Brisbane playing more youngsters than us is just that. It's wrong, we are playing more youngsters than them and I'm sure guys like Knights and VB won't mind biding their time in their first season for the better of the team.

 

[Crow-mosone]

C'mon guys, let's be honest

We are only arguing about fadeouts, lack of game time, and other insignificant little things, because there is precious little to talk about when we are winning

Arguing about what your team should do isn't half as much fun when they are winning.

who knew success was a double edged sword

 

[snakebite01]

C'mon guys, let's be honest

We are only arguing about fadeouts, lack of game time, and other insignificant little things, because there is precious little to talk about when we are winning

Arguing about what your team should do isn't half as much fun when they are winning.

who knew success was a double edged sword

True.

Although, I wouldn't mind having an argument later on in the year about whether or not it was really Thommo or Goody who deserved the Norm Smith.

 

[Fudd]

I'm presuming you are referring to youngsters such as Drummond, Macdonald, Corrie, McGrath, McLaren, Merrett, Selwood and Sherman. Fact is, out of all of these, the only teenager is Sherman who is out of last years draft, all the others are in there 20's.

What we're doing is exactly the same - Mattner, Thompson, Johncock, Skipworth, Rutten, Bock, Hentschel, Reilly and Jericho are in the same boat - all under 22 years of age. But because these guys are performing week in week out we just don't really consider them youngsters, when they are just as young as Brisbane's so called fantastic group coming through.

Give Knights and VB time, we have been presented with a great opportunity to have a crack at the finals and a top 2 spot, being virtually 2 games clear of 3rd, so we should be playing our best 22 each week regardless of age. If we were in a different position on the ladder, then yes, sacrifice some better players for the good of developing youth.

But all this hullabaloo about Brisbane playing more youngsters than us is just that. It's wrong, we are playing more youngsters than them and I'm sure guys like Knights and VB won't mind biding their time in their first season for the better of the team.

totally agree. The only reason Brisbane started playing those youngsters anyway was because their older guys werent doing the job anymore. YOu can bet if Brisbane had been travelling aswell as they had in previous years the young guys would still be running around in the qafl instead of the likes of Pike, Scott and White (was a late inclusion on the weekend i know). If we had been playing as poorly as they had, and guys like Doughty, Skipworth, shirley etc HADNT been doing a good job, then the likes of knights, VB et al would have had more oppurtunities earlier.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I'm presuming you are referring to youngsters such as Drummond, Macdonald, Corrie, McGrath, McLaren, Merrett, Selwood and Sherman. Fact is, out of all of these, the only teenager is Sherman who is out of last years draft, all the others are in there 20's.

What we're doing is exactly the same - Mattner, Thompson, Johncock, Skipworth, Rutten, Bock, Hentschel, Reilly and Jericho are in the same boat - all under 22 years of age. But because these guys are performing week in week out we just don't really consider them youngsters, when they are just as young as Brisbane's so called fantastic group coming through.

Give Knights and VB time, we have been presented with a great opportunity to have a crack at the finals and a top 2 spot, being virtually 2 games clear of 3rd, so we should be playing our best 22 each week regardless of age. If we were in a different position on the ladder, then yes, sacrifice some better players for the good of developing youth.

But all this hullabaloo about Brisbane playing more youngsters than us is just that. It's wrong, we are playing more youngsters than them and I'm sure guys like Knights and VB won't mind biding there time in their first season for the better of the team.

Adcock - 19 yo ,
Corrie - 21 yo,
Drummond - 22 yo,
McDonald - 20,
Merrett - 20,
Selwood - 21,
Sherman - 18,
Wood - 18,

If Knights and VB get dropped this week, which they will, to make way for Skip, Welsh and maybe Stiffy it would be a huge disappointment IMO.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

C'mon guys, let's be honest

We are only arguing about fadeouts, lack of game time, and other insignificant little things, because there is precious little to talk about when we are winning

Arguing about what your team should do isn't half as much fun when they are winning.

who knew success was a double edged sword

Fair enough. It's a slow news week.

 

[Fudd]

Adcock - 19 yo ,
Corrie - 21 yo,
Drummond - 22 yo,
McDonald - 20,
Merrett - 20,
Selwood - 21,
Sherman - 18,
Wood - 18,

If Knights and VB get dropped this week, which they will, to make way for Skip, Welsh and maybe Stiffy it would be a huge disappointment IMO.

you wouldnt be more dissapointed if we lost to the doggies? Who would you drop aswell, because our team is obviously stronger with atleast 2 of those guys back in.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

you wouldnt be more dissapointed if we lost to the doggies? Who would you drop aswell, because our team is obviously stronger with atleast 2 of those guys back in.

Let's say Stiffy, Welsh and Skip are fit this week, I don't really care who gets dropped as long as it's not Knights - 8 minutes - pffft.

 

[Fudd]

Let's say Stiffy, Welsh and Skip are fit this week, I don't really care who gets dropped as long as it's not Knights - 8 minutes - pffft.

Fair call. Id leave Knights in aswell, but its a tricky situation and i dont envy the selectors at all.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If Knights and VB get dropped this week, which they will, to make way for Skip, Welsh and maybe Stiffy it would be a huge disappointment IMO.

Welsh & Skipworth should come straight back, but I reckon Stiffy will return via the Magpies, given his extended break. It's going to be a tough week at the selection table. Given JT was forced to play out of position, we need to lose a HBF type - either VB or Doughty (I expect AFC will go for the former). Knights will probably make way for Skippy, as who else is there?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Why won't Knights play finals?? How do we know he is not good enough from 8 minutes of game time. It p*sses me off the way we use our youngsters. Let's leave them on the list for a couple of years, don't play them and then delist at around age 22, ala Kruger and Smith.

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

Knights and VB must stay in the side this week IMO.

Springy, one thing we just cannot question Craig about is his preparation and managment of athletes. That is his biggest strength. The man has a proves track record in this area both is cycling and football. For all those doubting Craigy player managment and ability to develop them, just do some research on Craigy's time with Norwood. He was developing players left right and center and so many players got drafted during his time there its not funny.

While I would like to see VB and Knights stay in and get decent game time, I would NOT question Craig on his decision. The man knows what he is talking about when it comes to these things and he has a track record to prove it.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I assume you believe his last month has been fantastic?

If you don't think it's time he was sent back to Sturt for a full game there you're kidding yourself.

He's nothing more than a passenger at present.

DT don't you read my posts????
- Thats exactly what I've called for - get some full games under his belt at SANFL

I wouldn't say he's a passenger though - bit harsh there

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

.

Not true - in fact almost a third of our side has played less than 30 games??

Thats a season and a half in aussie metric

 

[WaynesWorld19]

C'mon guys, let's be honest

We are only arguing about fadeouts, lack of game time, and other insignificant little things, because there is precious little to talk about when we are winning

Arguing about what your team should do isn't half as much fun when they are winning.

who knew success was a double edged sword

A truer word was never spoken.

Hell if I was 18 and in my first year of AFL was able to get a game with the AFC in second position on the ladder - I'd be one proud peacock

 

[Mad Dog]

Why won't Knights play finals?? How do we know he is not good enough from 8 minutes of game time. It p*sses me off the way we use our youngsters. Let's leave them on the list for a couple of years, don't play them and then delist at around age 22, ala Kruger and Smith.

Christ, Brisbane has just come off playing in a ground final and they are blooding more youngsters than us. We would rather give the likes of Begley, Skippy, Bode, Doughty etc etc yet another game then take a risk on bringing in a young guy.

Knights and VB must stay in the side this week IMO.

This is always the difficulty when the side is winning...and there's no injuries. I agree we need to look to the future....but what a fantastic position to be in....winning and fit....let's not knock it.

There is a real fight on for spots at the moment.....VB and Knights are going to have to fight harder than most....but they will get their chance.....at least NC has shown his hand and put them in front of the Bode's, Begley's Ladhams of the world.....we should be pleased with that at least.

Maybe Skippy will have another week off to be sure...and maybe Reilly will be given a full game with Sturt after only 40-odd mins on the ground....either way the younglings will need to fight.....but are at least in the melting pot.

 

[Mad Dog]

What we're doing is exactly the same - Mattner, Thompson, Johncock, Skipworth, Rutten, Bock, Hentschel, Reilly and Jericho are in the same boat - all under 22 years of age. But because these guys are performing week in week out we just don't really consider them youngsters, when they are just as young as Brisbane's so called fantastic group coming through.

Give Knights and VB time, we have been presented with a great opportunity to have a crack at the finals and a top 2 spot, being virtually 2 games clear of 3rd, so we should be playing our best 22 each week regardless of age. If we were in a different position on the ladder, then yes, sacrifice some better players for the good of developing youth.

excellent points snakebite

 

[Mad Dog]

Adcock - 19 yo ,
Corrie - 21 yo,
Drummond - 22 yo,
McDonald - 20,
Merrett - 20,
Selwood - 21,
Sherman - 18,
Wood - 18,

If Knights and VB get dropped this week, which they will, to make way for Skip, Welsh and maybe Stiffy it would be a huge disappointment IMO.

so what are your ins and outs for this week Springy.....assuming Stiff, Welsh, and Skip are fit ?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Springy, one thing we just cannot question Craig about is his preparation and managment of athletes. That is his biggest strength. The man has a proves track record in this area both is cycling and football. For all those doubting Craigy player managment and ability to develop them, just do some research on Craigy's time with Norwood. He was developing players left right and center and so many players got drafted during his time there its not funny.

While I would like to see VB and Knights stay in and get decent game time, I would NOT question Craig on his decision. The man knows what he is talking about when it comes to these things and he has a track record to prove it.

Fair call Stiff. I hope, but doubt it, Skip will come back through the Weagles and Knights will get another game. I reckon the kid has alot to offer, more than Skip. Give him at least half a game to prove himself.