Does Ablett play next week if he’s not “Ablett”?
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I'm not surprised by the vitriol, but I share your minority position on this match, CC.
Port's third quarter was immense. It had the lot—momentum, manic physical pressure, slick and quick ball movement. It was a 'premiership quarter', to use the old parlance. But despite the domination, they kicked just three goals and won the quarter by only two. It would have been an abject procession against almost any other team, but we absorbed the pressure well and were still in it by 3Q time. There was no capitulation.
We didn't lose around the ground, but in converting opportunities. Zip from six to Hawkins, three of which were there to be kicked. We had four more scoring shots than Port.
And it was interstate final—a finals win on the road is a rare bird. I didn't expect it, and overall thought they showed plenty of grit and metal.
Hopefully Sav gets to learn forward craft soon. Leading patterns, not getting in the way of Hawk, blocks off the ball etc. He can be anything.we'll all be laughing about this sh*t when Sav cuts us up in a Final in a few years time playing for a different club.
#BringbackSav
Not what I meant, but if you feel better for that so be it
Your correct - however the cupboard is pretty bare -there is not much to bring in
Seeing your a neutral - gives us your HONEST opinion on Geelongs game style - do you like it - are they good to watch - bad to watch - terrible to watch
Tells us what you actually think - not just for the likes etc
Teams are onto it. They’re quick to Block up space and there is no chip kick into the corridor. So it’s just back half chip kicks followed by long kicks down the line. Hawks 2019 did this to us still nothing has changed.One thing I will say is that I can't understand why we went away from our game plan that seemed to serve us so well early/mid season. At that point I thought it was the first time I had seen a clear game plan from Scott and it was working. The slow it down, chip sideways, keepings off type of game plan. I haven't seen that for 6 weeks and I don't really understand why tbh. I might be reading it all wrong, but I can't work out why we wanted to play quickly when to me that slow play was working so well. It seemed that no-one could touch us when we played that way, but I haven't seen a lot of it since. Others on here are saying the slow play is what cost us, but I didn't see it tbh. I though we went way too quick and it didn't work for us.
Anyway, at least we've given ourselves a 2nd chance. I'm not confident at all, but who knows - we're still in it - just.
I'm not surprised by the vitriol, but I share your minority position on this match, CC.
Port's third quarter was immense. It had the lot—momentum, manic physical pressure, slick and quick ball movement. It was a 'premiership quarter', to use the old parlance. But despite the domination, they kicked just three goals and won the quarter by only two. It would have been an abject procession against almost any other team, but we absorbed the pressure well and were still in it by 3Q time. There was no capitulation.
We didn't lose around the ground, but in converting opportunities. Zip from six to Hawkins, three of which were there to be kicked. We had four more scoring shots than Port.
And it was interstate final—a finals win on the road is a rare bird. I didn't expect it, and overall thought they showed plenty of grit and metal.
He won 4 clearances behind only Selwood and Danger for us with 6 each. He wasn't brilliant but nobody on the ground really was for either team.
Let's be honest. We played a good team on their home deck and should've been 4 goals up at half time. We weren't and we paid the price. You can wish we were more compared in the 3rd or that particular players contributed more but in the end that game was decided almost entirely by our inability to finish our good work and Menegola and Guthrie weren't too blame there.
I feel that the likes of Ratugolea & Clark really could have benefited from the competitiveness of the VFL this year and only having the scratch matches for those not playing seniors, has hurt those guys on the fringewe'll all be laughing about this sh*t when Sav cuts us up in a Final in a few years time playing for a different club.
#BringbackSav
Im just saying sav is a random unit that can be dangerous on his day and is worth his place in the side.
People dont agree thats fine.
How did today turn out?
Situation solved. Scott out. Who’s your pick for next coach? Are you sure they’ll do better? Happy to be missing finals as well? Most other clubs outside Hawthorn, Richmond and WC would have loved to be init every year like us. They are hard to win, but I’m not sure it is the coach that is holding us back. Perhaps we are achieving as well as we can at the minute, at least until the players work out that they have it within them to win one.
I didn’t think Port were great but after half time they flogged us around the ball. They should have won by more in the end. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not solely blaming just Guthrie and Menegola (there were others far worse - Miers, Kolo, Rohan, Henry...) - merely pointing out that their games weren’t of the standard that saw them be AA or nominated. On tonight’s performance you wouldn’t think of selecting either in that team.
We seem to shit our pants when teams get a run on. The game was full of ebbs and flowsIt was - and i thought they should have been alot further ahead at 3qtr time . And Geelongs 3rd qtr was pathetic - it was raw for all to see - the mistakes - handpassing to blokes about a foot away . Geelong fell to bits in the 3rd qtr - you can sugar coat it any way you like - but thats the bottom line
Not that dissappointed ( and good luck to Port and Bris ) because Richmond are so far superior -. Dish up that 3rd qtr against the Tigers and it would be a massacre
Yeah those 5 points were brutal.Probably better than if Sav had played and they were able to double team Hawkins all day. Instead of kicking 0.5, Hawkins kicks 0.0
Wanna work for me tomorrow?
I'll walk your dog along the beach, furiously throwing stones in the ocean out of anger at tonight.
Hopefully Sav gets to learn forward craft soon. Leading patterns, not getting in the way of Hawk, blocks off the ball etc. He can be anything.
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I feel that the likes of Ratugolea & Clark really could have benefited from the competitiveness of the VFL this year and only having the scratch matches for those not playing seniors, has hurt those guys on the fringe
I'm not sure how competitive the scratch matches really get, no coaches want to see their players hurt from those "games", so they may help with gaining fitness & some touch but not in the same way players are pushed in VFL matches
During the season when Ratugolea was down on form, the chance to give him a month in the VFL, really encourage & push him to be the dominant forward - not necessarily in terms of marking everything coming his way & kicking 4 goals a match, but in terms of having a presence and continued involvement
His 4th quarter against Richmond was promising - but he lacked presence in his last few games outside of that quarter. Against the Swans (maybe second quarter) he had the chance to lay a serious tackle against 2 Swans players, but rather than committing to tackling either he tried corralling both. Even if he gave away a few kick for holding or late contact etc, I would have loved to see him go hard & tackled one of those Swans players to the ground, as it would have been a statement that he's here to play
Hoping he puts in a good summer and we see further development from him next year, and we get to see him take that next step in his career
We seem to sh*t our pants when teams get a run on. The game was full of ebbs and flows
1st quarter was even
2nd quarter we dominated
3rd quarter we were smashed
4th quarter slight advantage to Port
In the end, Port were able to translate thier dominance on the scoreboard.
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We seem to sh*t our pants when teams get a run on. The game was full of ebbs and flows
1st quarter was even
2nd quarter we dominated
3rd quarter we were smashed
4th quarter slight advantage to Port
In the end, Port were able to translate thier dominance on the scoreboard.
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At least he provides a proper target and gets the frikken ball unlike the small defensive forwards that are out there somewhere.
5 small 1 tall forwardline what do you expect lol!
I don’t know why everyone keeps saying kolo was on Motlop? Stewart was on Motlop. And some how Stanley was left on Motlop for motlops first goal. There’s a couple of his goals/goal involvements on the afl website. Have a look. Stanley peels off, Motlop left on his own, goal. Stewart ran off him multiple times to try and get an intercept/effect the contest. Motlop is left unmanned and bang goals and goal assists.Why was Kolo on Motlop so often?
Anyone got a TL;dr from the Scott presser? Hope the Journos put some actual hard questions to him.
Does Ablett play next week if he’s not “Ablett”?
I feel that the likes of Ratugolea & Clark really could have benefited from the competitiveness of the VFL this year and only having the scratch matches for those not playing seniors, has hurt those guys on the fringe
I'm not sure how competitive the scratch matches really get, no coaches want to see their players hurt from those "games", so they may help with gaining fitness & some touch but not in the same way players are pushed in VFL matches
During the season when Ratugolea was down on form, the chance to give him a month in the VFL, really encourage & push him to be the dominant forward - not necessarily in terms of marking everything coming his way & kicking 4 goals a match, but in terms of having a presence and continued involvement
His 4th quarter against Richmond was promising - but he lacked presence in his last few games outside of that quarter. Against the Swans (maybe second quarter) he had the chance to lay a serious tackle against 2 Swans players, but rather than committing to tackling either he tried corralling both. Even if he gave away a few kick for holding or late contact etc, I would have loved to see him go hard & tackled one of those Swans players to the ground, as it would have been a statement that he's here to play
Hoping he puts in a good summer and we see further development from him next year, and we get to see him take that next step in his career
The thing I found most frustrating with Motlops first goal is that Stewart was back in the goal square when the ball was kicked in, but then he got sucked in to going for the loose ball, made no impact on the contest and Motlop kicks the goalI don’t know why everyone keeps saying kolo was on Motlop? Stewart was on Motlop. And some how Stanley was left on Motlop for motlops first goal. There’s a couple of his goals/goal involvements on the afl website. Have a look. Stanley peels off, Motlop left on his own, goal. Stewart ran off him multiple times to try and get an intercept/effect the contest. Motlop is left unmanned and bang goals and goal assists.