Geelong rorting the system

[Strange Cat]

Needed to change my av to match the energy of all the losers in this thread.
We're clean. Deal with it.

I have a hard time believing that these posters truly believe the shit they write and lack that much critical thinking …surely they are just trolling to get a reaction

Right?

 

[Sttew]

I have a hard time believing that these posters truly believe the shit they write and lack that much critical thinking …surely they are just trolling to get a reaction

Right?

Me too. They’re getting each other worked up.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Is it though?

"Geelong's recruiting boss Stephen Wells and football chief Steven Hocking haven't yet seen Harvard Yard, but the Cats hierarchy has an unusual affinity with the world's most celebrated business school. Geelong president Colin Carter completed a two-year Masters of Business Administration at Harvard. Carter encouraged Cook to take on the executive course and has coach Chris Scott signed up for the same "authentic leadership" course that Alastair Clarkson did; Geelong's heads of media and Human Resources, too, have done short, sharp Harvard courses."

Think in the end Cook, Carter, Lloyd, Hocking and Scott have completed courses at Harvard business school, and he was already doing work for Morris. This is just the formalisation of partnership already in place.

And TBH if he were to quit coaching this is the type of corporate world gig I could see him getting full time.

Lol, funny how armed with all this cutting edge knowledge the only gig Scott could get as a leadership and performance chief was with Geelong's sponsor, and he seems to have been appointed sans a competitive process.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Can someone please point out the outrage when Adam Simpson miraculously received two Hungry Jacks franchises?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Can someone please point out the outrage when Adam Simpson miraculously received two Hungry Jacks franchises?

There was a few eyebrows raised. He also had to show he had "genuine investment" in them.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

OUR NEXT LOOPHOLE!!

New cheat mode just dropped! Let it rain!!

 

[Tonythetiger]

Some good points an earlier poster made about Scott's contract already being completed so this is a side gig I guess that wouldn't be in breach of the cap. With that said, it's not a great look if sponsors are able to employ people whose salary makes up any type of a cap, it's too easy to be exploited.

I'm sure this gig is legitimate though and this company would have dealt with Scott for a number of years and they would want him involved in some capacity due to being experienced and a high performer, but just broadly it has the potential to affect the integrity of the competition. If it were to become commonplace and all 18 coaches had side gigs with sponsors, then you have an inequality where a coach would go to a bigger club knowing that they have higher value sponsors and thus more lucrative side deals.

I'm a little surprised Scott took it though, seems like a guy who would be aware of the optics and would expect him to rather not do it if it paints the club in any negative light.

 

[Sttew]

Lol, funny how armed with all this cutting edge knowledge the only gig Scott could get as a leadership and performance chief was with Geelong's sponsor, and he seems to have been appointed sans a competitive process.

“Sans a competitive process”!? This isn’t a government appointment and Morris Finance has been “official coaches sponsor” at the Club for several years.

This fake outrage is so unlike you!

 

[Cyclops]

Can someone please point out the outrage when Adam Simpson miraculously received two Hungry Jacks franchises?

That was purely to benefit Tom Hawkins when he visited WA! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

 

[King Patty]

This Scott deal is no worse than Judd and Visy.

Cotton on and Bailey Smith

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and requesting to play for cats...was always on the cards.

Geelong do have a regional advantage.

Maybe a better way of doing it would be like Cotton on employ retired cats. e.g Selwood and Hawkins post career, but they also play for a little less under salary cap.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

This Scott deal is no worse than Judd and Visy.

Cotton on and Bailey Smith and requesting to play for cats...was always on the cards.

Geelong do have a regional advantage.

Maybe a better way of doing it would be like Cotton on employ retired cats. e.g Selwood and Hawkins post career, but they also play for a little less under salary cap.

And everyone had a problem with Judd's visa deal, to the point where the afl couldn't sweep it under the rug and actually had to change 3rd party rules which stated they had to include it in the cap.
After that though, it was back to a free for all until they said no to franklin signing a 2 Mil deal with puma because they wanting him at gws...

 

[HairyO]

And everyone had a problem with Judd's visa deal, to the point where the afl couldn't sweep it under the rug and actually had to change 3rd party rules which stated they had to include it in the cap.
After that though, it was back to a free for all until they said no to franklin signing a 2 Mil deal with puma because they wanting him at gws...

Im sure the AFL media are all over this Scott appointment.

Oh wait, there is a story about Jack Ginnivan encroaching on the AFL's marketing rights: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1248337/barrett-hokball-jack-ginnivan-and-the-brown-and-gold-grey-area

The AFL truly doesnt care about anything unless someone is threatening their ability to make money.

Clearly Hawthorn just need to get a sponsor to employ Ginnivan and Watson then there is no issue.

 

[Sttew]

Tax paid club.
I call them the labor party.
Done nothing for the code and still get tax money.
Time to turf them out.
Cats are crooks.

“a recent renovation of the club’s headquarters was funded, in part, by a $15 million federal government infrastructure grant intended to provide improved facilities for women’s sports teams.”

That’s not about Geelong but Collingwood

 

[HairyO]

“a recent renovation of the club’s headquarters was funded, in part, by a $15 million federal government infrastructure grant intended to provide improved facilities for women’s sports teams.”

That’s not about Geelong but Collingwood

Collingwood also spent a huge amount of money on upgrading Vic Park facilities for their netball team. Outside of the AFL soft cap of course. Was just pure luck that the new facilities were also incredibly helpful for the training of their football team.

Then sadly a few years later they got rid of the netball team.

 

[Cyclops]

Collingwood also spent a huge amount of money on upgrading Vic Park facilities for their netball team. Outside of the AFL soft cap of course. Was just pure luck that the new facilities were also incredibly helpful for the training of their football team.

Then sadly a few years later they got rid of the netball team.

Well to be fair we also got government grants meant to promote the inclusion of women in sport .

We're all doing shifities left right an centre. Rich clubs get away with more, if a little club like Geelong works out their rorts good luck to them (how many times have they renovated that crappy little half-ground?).

AFL isn't exactly interested in rooting out this sort of thing, they run the biggest rort clubs in the country in Sydney and GWS.

 

[Sttew]

how many times have they renovated that crappy little half-ground?

Why do you care? Collingwood hasn't played at that ground this century and never will. Now that is one of the biggest rorts in the AFL, "big" clubs refusing to play their away game against Geelong at Geelong's home ground

 

[Purple Suit]

Why do you care? Collingwood hasn't played at that ground this century and never will. Now that is one of the biggest rorts in the AFL, "big" clubs refusing to play their away game against Geelong at Geelong's home ground

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.

 

[tiger_tough]

Can't believe the outrage. Who cares? Every club should do the same

 

[Cleric]

The whole AFL community is reactive, and that includes the commission.
The minute the Swans managed to get a flag and the best player as a FA, using the rules set down by the AFL, the AFL changed the system.
The minute some father sons turn out good for Geelong, the AFL changes how much you have to give up to get them. The AFL sets up the NGAs to get players developed and into the system, and the minute one becomes pick 1 in the draft, they nuke the system. They then change the rules that you can't match bids in the top 30. They then bring back the NGAs. They then change the points and rules around NGAs because they are successful, after GC get a number of good talent come through at the same time.
I could go on.

I have no doubt that if a club did some trades and ended up with two F1 picks linked to other clubs, and then that team won the flag, and the two teams they got the future picks from ended last and second last, giving the premiership team the first two picks in the draft, the AFL would step in and take them away, or would change the rules stopping it from ever happening again.

 

[Strange Cat]

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.[/B]

We make less money at the G than at KP genius, the club makes over $1 million with 40 k at KP vs $600k or less at the G

The club absolutely wants 11 HOME games in Geelong

 

[iameviljez]

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.

Geelong absolutely wants 11 games at Kardinia, and the financial windfall to the club from 40k at home is better than 80k at the G due to the ground ownership.

 

[iameviljez]

The whole AFL community is reactive, and that includes the commission.
The minute the Swans managed to get a flag and the best player as a FA, using the rules set down by the AFL, the AFL changed the system.
The minute some father sons turn out good for Geelong, the AFL changes how much you have to give up to get them. The AFL sets up the NGAs to get players developed and into the system, and the minute one becomes pick 1 in the draft, they nuke the system. They then change the rules that you can't match bids in the top 30. They then bring back the NGAs. They then change the points and rules around NGAs because they are successful, after GC get a number of good talent come through at the same time.
I could go on.

I have no doubt that if a club did some trades and ended up with two F1 picks linked to other clubs, and then that team won the flag, and the two teams they got the future picks from ended last and second last, giving the premiership team the first two picks in the draft, the AFL would step in and take them away, or would change the rules stopping it from ever happening again.

Yeah, the decision making - and the lack of anticipation in it - is absolutely stupid. The Buddy changes to punish Sydney for 'stealing' him from the Golden Child in GWS were the worst of the lot, but there's plenty of doors left open in the AFL.

I can't believe that they haven't yet introduced red cards for Grand Finals, for example. Double suspensions mean very little if you win a flag, and, ss Alastair Lynch knew, they mean stuff-all if you're retiring.

 

[Strange Cat]

Yeah, the decision making - and the lack of anticipation in it - is absolutely stupid. The Buddy changes to punish Sydney for 'stealing' him from the Golden Child in GWS were the worst of the lot, but there's plenty of doors left open in the AFL.

I can't believe that they haven't yet introduced red cards for Grand Finals, for example. Double suspensions mean very little if you win a flag, and, ss Alastair Lynch knew, they mean stuff-all if you're retiring.

Tbf if Sydney didn’t abuse the COLA allowances to give Buddy a massive contract rather than spreading the allowance like it it meant to be used there wouldn’t had been a problem.

They made their own bed doing that

 

[Bevoman]

This Scott deal is no worse than Judd and Visy.

Cotton on and Bailey Smith and requesting to play for cats...was always on the cards.

Geelong do have a regional advantage.

Maybe a better way of doing it would be like Cotton on employ retired cats. e.g Selwood and Hawkins post career, but they also play for a little less under salary cap.

And Geelong has the Costa living allowance

 

[Strange Cat]

And Geelong has the Costa living allowance

Got to love the silly conspiracy theories being thrown around