Preview Geelong V Brisbane Prelim Final Sat Oct 17 7 40 pm @ Gabba

[rocker_oz33]

Nah, pretty sure BT likes his own commentary as well.

He LOVES the sound of he's own voice.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

They're the opposite of the group under Bomber Thompson that used past failings to spur them on. I think it was James Kelly that said the smashing by the Lions they received over the early 2000s really stuck with the group.

Was it 2004 when they came down to Geelong and we finally beat them?
I remember they bullied us for years, then we turned the tide.

 

[goyoucatters]

I go back a lot further to the days of the ABC the winners 70S with Drew Morphett we got a replay of two last quarters and CH7 replayed a game after the basketball around midnight Saturday night.

PS a bit off topic well along way off topic really but some Geelong stuff at the start worth watching before you piss it off.

Loved 'The Winners' with Drew as well. Mark of the Day, Goal of the Day, Play of the Day...

And thanks for sending through the link. That goal from Turner three minutes is a good showcase of the electrifying pace he brought to the game.

 

[rocker_oz33]

I'm not a fan of Darc and Brayshaw.

Darcy is a flog of the highest order.

JB ok on the rush hour.
But he's flogish in anything else.
Loves himself abit to much.

 

[steady2]

Did you notice after almost every goal we kicked there was a steely resolve. No huge grins, even being 10 goals in front, no over the top celebrations.
Just focus and determination.

Yes I did notice that, particularly with big Tom, although the final raffle with Danger was worth a smile and hug.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

They certainly did.
Out of curiosity, who are you tipping Saturday night?

Brisbane. As I have the last few prelims, I am waiting for them to prove me wrong that they can perform at a high enough level in finals to win a prelim. The semi final was a good game for Geelong fans, but we (a) need to accept that Collingwood were not playing to anywhere near the standard that a Richmond, Port and Brisbane have been and (b) this group has done the whole "win the SF comfortably and then get beaten easily in the prelim" bit before, so a comprehensive SF win doesn't really assuage any doubts for me about their capacity to perform in the most cut-throat game of the season.

Besides, while we have played well at the Gabba this year, which has given us some hope of something reminiscent of a home ground advantage against some sides, it is Brisbane's true home ground and they surely benefit more from it. Brisbane are also just a really good team. I still rate Richmond at this point in time, and the way they dismantled them was very impressive. I don't think Geelong could have done it (certainly Geelong were nowhere near Richmond just a few weeks prior). Their form line has been more consistent and even earlier in the year the difference between the teams was a one-quarter fade-out from them, which I think they are more likely to improve upon than this Geelong group, under Chris Scott, is likely to improve on its penchant for struggling when the heat is really on in finals.

On one hand, you could say there's no shame dropping this to the Lions. On the other, lose this and it's the fifth prelim chance blown under Scott, which is a lot of wasted chances. The amount of hope and excitement I have for and about us making a GF, and the potential fun of all that, is the lowest it's been, which is sad because supporters should feel immense anticipation at this time. But so many times now I've allowed, even up to last year, to think it might be the time Scott's team performs and they always disappoint. The game is either done by quarter time or we build a lead that is eroded in a quarter. Hard to know what's worse - you get excited about your side having a chance at a GF but then it's all gone after about 10 minutes into the game (2016/2017), or the side actually is competitive for a portion of the game, builds a lead, allowing you to get hooked into the prospect of a grand final berth even more, and then you see them fade rapidly in front of you and in the span of a quarter (2013/2019). Besides perhaps the 2013 PF (but we really did get creamed in the last), which is the furthest from today, we haven't remained competitive for a full game in any of those prelims.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Brisbane. As I have the last few prelims, I am waiting for them to prove me wrong that they can perform at a high enough level in finals to win a prelim. The semi final was a good game for Geelong fans, but we (a) need to accept that Collingwood were not playing to anywhere near the standard that a Richmond, Port and Brisbane have been and (b) this group has done the whole "win the SF comfortably and then get beaten easily in the prelim" bit before, so a comprehensive SF win doesn't really assuage any doubts for me about their capacity to perform in the most cut-throat game of the season.

Besides, while we have played well at the Gabba this year, which has given us some hope of something reminiscent of a home ground advantage against some sides, it is Brisbane's true home ground and they surely benefit more from it. Brisbane are also just a really good team. I still rate Richmond at this point in time, and the way they dismantled them was very impressive. I don't think Geelong could have done it (certainly Geelong were nowhere near Richmond just a few weeks prior). Their form line has been more consistent and even earlier in the year the difference between the teams was a one-quarter fade-out from them, which I think they are more likely to improve upon than this Geelong group, under Chris Scott, is likely to improve on its penchant for struggling when the heat is really on in finals.

On one hand, you could say there's no shame dropping this to the Lions. On the other, lose this and it's the fifth prelim chance blown under Scott, which is a lot of wasted chances. The amount of hope and excitement I have for and about us making a GF and all the fun that I have is the lowest it's been, which is sad because supporters should feel immense anticipation at this time. But so many times now I've allowed, even up to last year, to think it might be the time Scott's team can perform and they always disappoint. The game is either done by quarter time or we build a lead that is eroded in a quarter. Hard to know what's worse - you get excited about your side having a chance at a GF but then it's all gone after about 10 minutes into the game (2016/2017), or the side actually is competitive for a portion of the game, builds a lead, allowing you to get hooked into the prospect of a grand final berth even more, and then you see them fade rapidly in front of you and in the span of a quarter (2013/2019). Besides perhaps the 2013 PF (but we really did get creamed in the last), which is the furthest from today, we haven't remained competitive for a full game in any of those prelims.

Pretty much my exact thoughts as well.

 

[cats_09]

Mark Stevens on 7 News, " Geelong will basically go in unchanged against the Lions" - not sure how a team can be "basically unchanged"

He did say Stanley pulled up sore but will be right to go

Dangerfield likely to spilt time between playing forward & midfield, though Knights would be happy to keep him in the midfield - kinda weird the way it was mentioned, felt like Knights has been somewhat overruled in terms of the midfield makeup, likes the decision made will be what's best for the team & not just midfield (which is surely what decisions should be based on)

 

[BotsMaster]

Fred needs poll.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Mark Stevens on 7 News, " Geelong will basically go in unchanged against the Lions" - not sure how a team can be "basically unchanged"

He did say Stanley pulled up sore but will be right to go

Dangerfield likely to spilt time between playing forward & midfield, though Knights would be happy to keep him in the midfield - kinda weird the way it was mentioned, felt like Knights has been somewhat overruled in terms of the midfield makeup, likes the decision made will be what's best for the team & not just midfield (which is surely what decisions should be based on)

If we're starting to lose the midfield battle, I'd be pretty upset to see Danger sitting in the forward line while the ball stays locked at the other end. Even more so if we're putting guys like Dahl in there. Luckily no Atkins, hopefully.

 

[PhatBoy]

They used the 2008 GF as a motivator for 2009 though, didn't they?

Fair point. I’d imagine a lot of that had to do with circumstance though - losing to a team you know you are far stronger than. I don’t think this team thinks they are way too good for Richmond. Good enough yes but they haven’t proven it at all

 

[cats_09]

If we're starting to lose the midfield battle, I'd be pretty upset to see Danger sitting in the forward line while the ball stays locked at the other end. Even more so if we're putting guys like Dahl in there. Luckily no Atkins, hopefully.

I hope they aren't stubborn & won't make changes that benifits the team, but it sounds like they want to use Dangerfield forward rather than midfield only

Looking at our last few games - Sydney, Port & Collingwood, I've felt we've looked most dangerous or threatening in the midfield when Dangerfield wasn't actually in there, and instead we backed in Duncan, Guthrie, Selwood, Parfitt etc, (not necessarily Dahlhaus & Atkins), and Dangerfield was up forward. That's like the second half against the Swans and the first half against Collingwood

We just seemed a bit more unpredictable and the opposition not as sure who to focus on

I think it's good to go in with a flexible mindset & adjust to what's needed

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Fair point. I’d imagine a lot of that had to do with circumstance though - losing to a team you know you are far stronger than. I don’t think this team thinks they are way too good for Richmond. Good enough yes but they haven’t proven it at all

A team they had already beaten in the same year in which they lost the final to them?

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I hope they aren't stubborn & won't make changes that benifits the team, but it sounds like they want to use Dangerfield forward rather than midfield only

Looking at our last few games - Sydney, Port & Collingwood, I've felt we've looked most dangerous or threatening in the midfield when Dangerfield wasn't actually in there, and instead we backed in Duncan, Guthrie, Selwood, Parfitt etc, (not necessarily Dahlhaus & Atkins), and Dangerfield was up forward. That's like the second half against the Swans and the first half against Collingwood

We just seemed a bit more unpredictable and the opposition not as sure who to focus on

I think it's good to go in with a flexible mindset & adjust to what's needed

Yet to see whether Guthrie, Menegola, Parfitt, etc. can hack it against quality when the heat really goes up. Dangerfield, of course, does not have the most sterling record of finals performances in the midfield but he's still a more reliable competitor at the contest than I would consider many of those to be in finals. That's probably how we'll start, though, so I guess we'll see. An opportunity for guys like Guthrie and Menegola to prove that their newfound 2020 form and consistency weren't contained to the H&A.

 

[steady2]

Guess the TV will be on mute on Saturday - BT and Bruce will be back in commentary for both Prelims.

When Geelong are playing I'd prefer BT to Ling.

 

[Strange Cat]

KROCK FOOTBALL

K rock Football

Go Catters

No bias there right

 

[allrighty]

OK I know I'm not here all that much but where is Partridge ?

 

[allrighty]

Brisbane. As I have the last few prelims, I am waiting for them to prove me wrong that they can perform at a high enough level in finals to win a prelim. The semi final was a good game for Geelong fans, but we (a) need to accept that Collingwood were not playing to anywhere near the standard that a Richmond, Port and Brisbane have been and (b) this group has done the whole "win the SF comfortably and then get beaten easily in the prelim" bit before, so a comprehensive SF win doesn't really assuage any doubts for me about their capacity to perform in the most cut-throat game of the season.

Besides, while we have played well at the Gabba this year, which has given us some hope of something reminiscent of a home ground advantage against some sides, it is Brisbane's true home ground and they surely benefit more from it. Brisbane are also just a really good team. I still rate Richmond at this point in time, and the way they dismantled them was very impressive. I don't think Geelong could have done it (certainly Geelong were nowhere near Richmond just a few weeks prior). Their form line has been more consistent and even earlier in the year the difference between the teams was a one-quarter fade-out from them, which I think they are more likely to improve upon than this Geelong group, under Chris Scott, is likely to improve on its penchant for struggling when the heat is really on in finals.

On one hand, you could say there's no shame dropping this to the Lions. On the other, lose this and it's the fifth prelim chance blown under Scott, which is a lot of wasted chances. The amount of hope and excitement I have for and about us making a GF, and the potential fun of all that, is the lowest it's been, which is sad because supporters should feel immense anticipation at this time. But so many times now I've allowed, even up to last year, to think it might be the time Scott's team performs and they always disappoint. The game is either done by quarter time or we build a lead that is eroded in a quarter. Hard to know what's worse - you get excited about your side having a chance at a GF but then it's all gone after about 10 minutes into the game (2016/2017), or the side actually is competitive for a portion of the game, builds a lead, allowing you to get hooked into the prospect of a grand final berth even more, and then you see them fade rapidly in front of you and in the span of a quarter (2013/2019). Besides perhaps the 2013 PF (but we really did get creamed in the last), which is the furthest from today, we haven't remained competitive for a full game in any of those prelims.

Reasonable analysis to be fair, but we will win this. I feel it in me waters.

 

[allrighty]

When Geelong are playing I'd prefer BT to Ling.

Just to be sure you're not some 40 stone IT nerdy bloke living in a cellar are you?

 

[PhatBoy]

A team they had already beaten in the same year in which they lost the final to them?

And listen to anyone who will address it and given some of their outs we had every right to beat them comfortably the first time. We were a good chance the second time but it’s not as though we went into the finals light years ahead of every other side

 

[catempire]

Don’t like the sound of this.

 

[bulletproof]

Brisbane. As I have the last few prelims, I am waiting for them to prove me wrong that they can perform at a high enough level in finals to win a prelim. The semi final was a good game for Geelong fans, but we (a) need to accept that Collingwood were not playing to anywhere near the standard that a Richmond, Port and Brisbane have been and (b) this group has done the whole "win the SF comfortably and then get beaten easily in the prelim" bit before, so a comprehensive SF win doesn't really assuage any doubts for me about their capacity to perform in the most cut-throat game of the season.

Besides, while we have played well at the Gabba this year, which has given us some hope of something reminiscent of a home ground advantage against some sides, it is Brisbane's true home ground and they surely benefit more from it. Brisbane are also just a really good team. I still rate Richmond at this point in time, and the way they dismantled them was very impressive. I don't think Geelong could have done it (certainly Geelong were nowhere near Richmond just a few weeks prior). Their form line has been more consistent and even earlier in the year the difference between the teams was a one-quarter fade-out from them, which I think they are more likely to improve upon than this Geelong group, under Chris Scott, is likely to improve on its penchant for struggling when the heat is really on in finals.

On one hand, you could say there's no shame dropping this to the Lions. On the other, lose this and it's the fifth prelim chance blown under Scott, which is a lot of wasted chances. The amount of hope and excitement I have for and about us making a GF, and the potential fun of all that, is the lowest it's been, which is sad because supporters should feel immense anticipation at this time. But so many times now I've allowed, even up to last year, to think it might be the time Scott's team performs and they always disappoint. The game is either done by quarter time or we build a lead that is eroded in a quarter. Hard to know what's worse - you get excited about your side having a chance at a GF but then it's all gone after about 10 minutes into the game (2016/2017), or the side actually is competitive for a portion of the game, builds a lead, allowing you to get hooked into the prospect of a grand final berth even more, and then you see them fade rapidly in front of you and in the span of a quarter (2013/2019). Besides perhaps the 2013 PF (but we really did get creamed in the last), which is the furthest from today, we haven't remained competitive for a full game in any of those prelims.

Thanks for opening up. It is now plain to see that your relentless negativity is actually a complicated coping mechanism that you have set up.

I respect that.

 

[cats_09]

Someone not wanting to share at training...

 

[Wojcinski]

Was it 2004 when they came down to Geelong and we finally beat them?
I remember they bullied us for years, then we turned the tide.

2006. I remember that day fondly, I had just finished work and sat down in my car, radio on MMM to hear the 3/4 time score and it was like 90 to 15 and I instantly thought Brisbane was winning and I was just like "oh here we go again, the usual"

It took a few minutes of them talking about how dominant the Cats had been for it to click that we were up and I couldn't wipe the smile of my face all the way home.

 

[God Mode]

Brisbane. As I have the last few prelims, I am waiting for them to prove me wrong that they can perform at a high enough level in finals to win a prelim. The semi final was a good game for Geelong fans, but we (a) need to accept that Collingwood were not playing to anywhere near the standard that a Richmond, Port and Brisbane have been and (b) this group has done the whole "win the SF comfortably and then get beaten easily in the prelim" bit before, so a comprehensive SF win doesn't really assuage any doubts for me about their capacity to perform in the most cut-throat game of the season.

Besides, while we have played well at the Gabba this year, which has given us some hope of something reminiscent of a home ground advantage against some sides, it is Brisbane's true home ground and they surely benefit more from it. Brisbane are also just a really good team. I still rate Richmond at this point in time, and the way they dismantled them was very impressive. I don't think Geelong could have done it (certainly Geelong were nowhere near Richmond just a few weeks prior). Their form line has been more consistent and even earlier in the year the difference between the teams was a one-quarter fade-out from them, which I think they are more likely to improve upon than this Geelong group, under Chris Scott, is likely to improve on its penchant for struggling when the heat is really on in finals.

On one hand, you could say there's no shame dropping this to the Lions. On the other, lose this and it's the fifth prelim chance blown under Scott, which is a lot of wasted chances. The amount of hope and excitement I have for and about us making a GF, and the potential fun of all that, is the lowest it's been, which is sad because supporters should feel immense anticipation at this time. But so many times now I've allowed, even up to last year, to think it might be the time Scott's team performs and they always disappoint. The game is either done by quarter time or we build a lead that is eroded in a quarter. Hard to know what's worse - you get excited about your side having a chance at a GF but then it's all gone after about 10 minutes into the game (2016/2017), or the side actually is competitive for a portion of the game, builds a lead, allowing you to get hooked into the prospect of a grand final berth even more, and then you see them fade rapidly in front of you and in the span of a quarter (2013/2019). Besides perhaps the 2013 PF (but we really did get creamed in the last), which is the furthest from today, we haven't remained competitive for a full game in any of those prelims.

Whilst, I'd consider myself more of an optimist, you always offer sound reasoning for your views which is all one can ask for. I can tell you're a tincy bit excited though! Maybe, just maybe, this is the year they prove you wrong.