Preview Geelong V Carlton Sat July 29 2017 725 pm @ Etihad

[Biggy_Boy]

He's a journeyman, and presently short of form. Omission was required, just staggered he's that old and has brought up the ton yet.

Cowan is the same age and has 84 games to reach 100.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Cowan is the same age and has 84 games to reach 100.

Cool. Unrelated and we both know how it's ending on list lodgement day.

 

[candiehappy]

Cowan is the same age and has 84 games to reach 100.

and Podsiadly hadn't even played an AFL at 27. Just as relevant ...

 

[Spazz Cat]

So ungrateful. Imagine where we'd be without supporter expectations. I'd say it's not too great a stretch to say a 44 year drought would now be a 54 year one. We should build a bronze statue at KP of supporter expectations.

I'll admit I'm drawing quite a long bow. But if most of our supporters/members didn't seriously crack the shits at the end of 2006, then probably no review, Balme etc.
No premiership.

 

[dazbroncos]

prediction:

buzza will have less then 8 touches, 0 contested marks and get smashed in the ruck. but there will be plenty of supporters of his performance regardless because they will see one marking contest where he gets close, drops it and by luck another geelong player player roves the ball and kicks a goal.

So dont put him in your Supercoach team. Got it.

Go Catters

 

[cats_09]

My predictions for Buzza:
- 3 inside 50 marks
- 2 contested marks
- 6 marks in total
- crash another 6 packs within 65m of goal, bringing the ball to ground for smaller guys to get to work
- kick 2 goals
- to be a livewire and bring energy to the forward line

 

[dazbroncos]

Cowan is the same age and has 84 games to reach 100.

And not even a Lourdes miracle can save him.

Gone.

Go Catters

 

[hokee]

I'll put it a different way: he won't be judged as harshly as Stanley would be for playing to the same level.

Agree. The fact that we are comparing Stanley vs Buzza is already telling us how shithouse Stanley is. Buzz is a 20 years old rookie and has played only 2 games. We would never look at Buzza's stats vs Hawkins because one is so much superior.

 

[allrighty]

prediction:

buzza will have less then 8 touches, 0 contested marks and get smashed in the ruck. but there will be plenty of supporters of his performance regardless because they will see one marking contest where he gets close, drops it and by luck another geelong player player roves the ball and kicks a goal.

Now don't go getting too optimistic eh?

 

[Seeds]

My predictions for Buzza:
- 3 inside 50 marks
- 2 contested marks
- 6 marks in total
- crash another 6 packs within 65m of goal, bringing the ball to ground for smaller guys to get to work
- kick 2 goals
- to be a livewire and bring energy to the forward line

That would be a big improvement on his last two games. but i would still prefer Stanleys average output over the past month to even your optimistic hopes for Buzza. How come you dont mention his ruck work? he will definately be spending some time rucking this week.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I'm sensing Seeds is unhappy Rhys 'Chocolate Teapot' Stanley has been dropped.
Can someone confirm

 

[catempire]

I'll admit I'm drawing quite a long bow. But if most of our supporters/members didn't seriously crack the shits at the end of 2006, then probably no review, Balme etc.
No premiership.

Glad you can admit it.

 

[FoolCat]

All this talk about Stanley being dropped and he will be a late in

 

[Seeds]

I don't know why you are so against Buzza in for Stanley this week. Buzza's last 2 AFL games have been better than Stanley's so they are playing the form player. Honestly, Buzza created more opportunities for our forwards against Brisbane than Stanley all year, because he isn't afraid to throw a knee in and crash a pack. Stanley is a very timid player.

wow and this is the crazy religious stuff right here. Stanley had double the marks in the two games they played together and more disposals in the brisbane game then Buzza in both his games combined. As for the talk Buzza is far far better them stanley in effort, well Stanley had more 1 percenters then Buzza in those two games and the same amount of tackles. Theory blown. Ofcourse religious nutters just respond by making up something else that cant be provable and then use this made up thing as an argument. Go right ahead.

 

[cats_09]

All this talk about Stanley being dropped and he will be a late in

For a small most likely

 

[bulletproof]

wow and this is the crazy religious stuff right here. Stanley had double the marks in the two games they played together and more disposals in the brisbane game then Buzza in both his games combined. As for the talk Buzza is far far better them stanley in effort, well Stanley had more 1 percenters then Buzza in those two games and the same amount of tackles. Theory blown. Ofcourse religious nutters just respond by making up something else that cant be provable and then use this made up thing as an argument. Go right ahead.

I almost feel like they've been bullied into dropping Stanley by the media and supporters. He is being made an example of over inconsistent efforts, that is fine, but they better not lose this week.

 

[Seeds]

I agree, which means if Stanley was giving us even barely passable performances, he'd still be in he team.
He wasn't, so he's going.

Unfortunately, he's a been a liability.

thats an illogical response if you also account for the post i was responding too. Also like the use of the meaningless wishy washer terms like "liability" and "passable".

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I almost feel like they've been bullied into dropping Stanley by the media and supporters. He is being made an example of over inconsistent efforts, that is fine, but they better not lose this week.

If we cant beat carlton we have bigger problems than stanley. He is not going to be the difference one way or the other.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

I almost feel like they've been bullied into dropping Stanley by the media and supporters. He is being made an example of over inconsistent efforts, that is fine, but they better not lose this week.

Naaaah.
Stats in recent games ( not that I put that much emphasis on stats) 9,11,16,10,10 Those 16 stats were against the bottom of the table Brisbane
10 stats per game average against the better sides is not acceptable


He's had more than enough chances

 

[Stan The Caddy]

stanley beat jacobs in the ruck last week. so yeah we do have a lot to lose.

No he didn't. No we don't.

 

[Seeds]

Agree. The fact that we are comparing Stanley vs Buzza is already telling us how shithouse Stanley is. Buzz is a 20 years old rookie and has played only 2 games. We would never look at Buzza's stats vs Hawkins because one is so much superior.

nice circular reasoning fallacy you've done there.

 

[Seeds]

Naaaah.
Stats in recent games ( not that I put that much emphasis on stats) 9,11,16,10,10 Those 16 stats were against the bottom of the table Brisbane
10 stats per game average against the better sides is not acceptable


He's had more than enough chances

you are looking at just possessions for a ruckman? try adding marks and hit outs at the vert least. Buzza (his replacement) by the way had 6 and 9 possessions in his two games and no one would rank him purely on touches.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

you are looking at just possessions for a ruckman? try adding marks and hit outs at the vert least. Buzza (his replacement) by the way had 6 and 9 possessions in his two games and no one would rank him purely on touches.

No. I said I didn't put much emphasis on stats
I'll clarify. I regard Stanley as more athletic than just a ruckman. He has a better capacity ( IMO) of getting to where the ball is, based on that athletism....BUT, going by those stats, he has little capacity to win the ball

And that is concerning

As for Buzza......if he gets the same run as Stanley did, and doesn't produce the goods, he can expect the same criticism from the public.
Personally, I'm excited by the kid

 

[David the Cat]

you are looking at just possessions for a ruckman? try adding marks and hit outs at the vert least. Buzza (his replacement) by the way had 6 and 9 possessions in his two games and no one would rank him purely on touches.

Perhaps you should practice what you preach. Your assertion that Stanley beat Jacobs last week doesn't stand up using your own criteria. It seemed obvious to me that Jacobs was clearly superior both in the ruck and around the ground.

Personally I'm glad Buzza is getting another run.

 

[goyoucatters]

I almost feel like they've been bullied into dropping Stanley by the media and supporters. He is being made an example of over inconsistent efforts, that is fine, but they better not lose this week.

He was not exactly carving it up in the ones in recent weeks. And ended up being omitted after a poor result for the team. This type of selection/omission of players on the margin has happened many times before. And no doubt it will happen again.

I think that our MC is far less likely to be interested in such matters as 'what the media and supporters are saying' than getting another four points for the club on the weekend. Given that's right at the top of their KPI's, it seems very likely that they would be prioritising this concern over any agenda to supposedly placate the enraged masses on media street (or Moorabool Street, for that matter).

They would be interested in how the decision affects Rhys, for sure. So I'm sure that was given consideration. But the idea that they were in any way constrained by external 'noise' (because that is all it is) about how Stanley was travelling seems extremely unlikely to me.

And, as has been said earlier, if we can't knock off the Tankers with or without Stanley in the team, we have far bigger problems than worrying about what the media or supporter base are supposedly saying about one of our players.