Rumour GFC 2018 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists - PT4

[Larry Donohue]

Some interesting insight from Wells:

https://www.ntnews.com.au/ne

Effectively the same mix. I didn't include Blakey and Thomas as their irrelevant to us. We are frustratingly one or two picks away from landing a gun. I'd take RCD, prefer Sturt, but think that the likelihood of a Jones or B/King falling to us is minimal.

ws/geelong-recruitment-manager-stephen-wells-says-onfield-performances-the-key-to-drafting/news-story/8193746ebc11e580759b247b7f49441c

Edit - Michael Mummery, one of the players mentioned in the above article:

Think we need to be aggressive and trade up from 12. Next years 2nd plus 12 for 9 from GWS. Something like that.

My sentiments (as posted a couple of times) exactly
I'd even consider trading next years 1st and 12 to get into Gold Coasts mix of 2, 3 and 6 if we wanted a real boost.
Get number 6 and we are talking a real talent at the club for 10 years (Rozee, Ben King or Smith)
Get number 3 and look out (rankine, walsh or the precosius one)
Get one of those guys and our short term prospects are bolstered too
We'll get another first next year for Kelly (if he leaves) anyway
Time for Wellsy to pull a rabbit out of the hat (proactivity time)

 

[Two Planks]

Ablett down back wtf!!!

https://www.outline.com/sBuRuu

Trying to find a position on the ground where he can use his elite kicking skills without having to tackle as much. Loose man down back would suit.

 

[Larry Donohue]

Trying to find a position on the ground where he can use his elite kicking skills without having to tackle as much. Loose man down back would suit.

Don't think it would work in current environment. Collingwood put DeGoey on him, Richmond Rioli etc. He'd get mowed down a bit.

 

[Two Planks]

Don't think it would work in current environment. Collingwood put DeGoey on him, Richmond Rioli etc. He'd get mowed down a bit.

There is no reason Ablett could not be our version of Kade Simpson.

 

[BORIS332]

My sentiments (as posted a couple of times) exactly
I'd even consider trading next years 1st and 12 to get into Gold Coasts mix of 2, 3 and 6 if we wanted a real boost.
Get number 6 and we are talking a real talent at the club for 10 years (Rozee, Ben King or Smith)
Get number 3 and look out (rankine, walsh or the precosius one)
Get one of those guys and our short term prospects are bolstered too
We'll get another first next year for Kelly (if he leaves) anyway
Time for Wellsy to pull a rabbit out of the hat (proactivity time)

There’s almost no chance we can trade into the top 10 considering just about all of the teams in there traded up.

There is absolutely no chance of a top 8 pick, let alone top 6.

 

[BORIS332]

Trying to find a position on the ground where he can use his elite kicking skills without having to tackle as much. Loose man down back would suit.

Don’t think it’s possible to have a 7-man backline with the new rules? Has to be 6 & 6 inside each 50m I believe.

 

[Hamingja]

Don’t think it’s possible to have a 7-man backline with the new rules? Has to be 6 & 6 inside each 50m I believe.

Have to start that way at the centre bounce. They will just play Kolo/Guthrie off a wing and get them to roll back as soon as the ball is bounced to generate a +1.

 

[Hamingja]

Trying to find a position on the ground where he can use his elite kicking skills without having to tackle as much. Loose man down back would suit.

IMO his value is as a link up player to use his skills and finishing ability. He is the player you want delivering into F50 and taking shots on the run. Danger wins the footy and passes to Ablett instead of blazing away himself. Simple * until Ablett gets tagged then you need him to drag the tagger inside and use Duncan instead.

Moving Menzel on means the club want to play him forward more this year IMO. I honestly think that is as big as a factor as anything else in the Menzel decision. You can't carry two non KPP attacking players that can't tackle.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I wonder whether B.King is a slight chance to get to us now? Think it's probably minimal but the way this draft is shaping he could be overlooked in favour of mids by GWS if he happens to slip that far? Port being the club that could ruin the party.

King might get to GWS but I cant imagine they pass on him twice. Would we try and trade for 9?

 

[Turbocat]

Hately has the big VO2 capacity for 2 way running and the marking ability to be that central target similar to Joel Corey.
With what he's done as a 17 year old so far he's certainly on the way.

certainly JC's running was a big part of his game...his size was unusual in his era..

 

[Larry Donohue]

There is no reason Ablett could not be our version of Kade Simpson.

I hope you're right. Kade is a star in the backline. Ablett is a little slower I think.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There’s almost no chance we can trade into the top 10 considering just about all of the teams in there traded up.

There is absolutely no chance of a top 8 pick, let alone top 6.

I'd say top 8 is too hard but GWS with 9 11 19 and 25 are an option especially if they want 2019 picks.

 

[Larry Donohue]

There’s almost no chance we can trade into the top 10 considering just about all of the teams in there traded up.

There is absolutely no chance of a top 8 pick, let alone top 6.

Gold Coast have said for the right price they'd consider trading 6

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I think its very unlikely we draft anyone who will reach Joel Coreys level of performance ..no matter which players name we call. B&F winner big games player and big moment player..

 

[year of the cat]

King might get to GWS but I cant imagine they pass on him twice. Would we try and trade for 9?

I’m hoping we try and trade for it with 12 plus 2019 r2. Whether that is enough or GWS would be interested is the question...

 

[Turbocat]

Thats was the bartel point game..he was awesome in that last q.

Corey was a key part of of success ..not sure how anyone could still be under rating him... and Id doubt we could find his worth with P12

 

[Ratcat]

certainly JC's running was a big part of his game...his size was unusual in his era..

I reckon another like him would be a good thing, maybe Hately.

 

[Turbocat]

I reckon another like him would be a good thing, maybe Hately.

No one is an exact of a previous ..there are tangents... we will see...

 

[Ratcat]

No one is an exact of a previous ..there are tangents... we will see...

That's why l said "maybe" .... l agree.

 

[goyoucatters]

Great moment to sum up Smithy right there.

Game on the line, big moment, gets the ball forward and then straight on his bike to get to the next contest, provides the option, clean receive, and finishes up hitting the target as casual as you like.

Just takin' care of business in his totally understated fashion. Like he did so many times in the hoops.

As Turbo noted, that quarter of footy was one of his very best as we clawed our way back from the brink. And it was Smithy yet again who got the ball to Jim Bob in those final seconds for the sweetest point in living memory

Fantastic contributor, week after week, was our Smithy...

Just imagine how we'd be remembering him now if he'd actually been more than just 'average to good'?

 

[year of the cat]

Check out Tom McKenzies highlights on the Draft Machine and tell me he isn’t a kid we shouldn’t be looking at. Outside run, great skills and a hard edge.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Great moment to sum up Smithy right there.

Game on the line, big moment, gets the ball forward and then straight on his bike to get to the next contest, provides the option, clean receive, and finishes up hitting the target as casual as you like.

Just takin' care of business in his totally understated fashion. Like he did so many times in the hoops.

As Turbo noted, that quarter of footy was one of his very best as we clawed our way back from the brink. And it was Smithy yet again who got the ball to Jim Bob in those final seconds for the sweetest point in living memory

Fantastic contributor, week after week, was our Smithy...

Just imagine how we'd be remembering him now if he'd actually been more than just 'average to good'?

I reckon he was one of the more underrated players going around.
About 5-6 of his teammates got all the glory but we definitely missed him in retirement.

Genuine gun.

 

[Larry Donohue]

Great moment to sum up Smithy right there.

Game on the line, big moment, gets the ball forward and then straight on his bike to get to the next contest, provides the option, clean receive, and finishes up hitting the target as casual as you like.

Just takin' care of business in his totally understated fashion. Like he did so many times in the hoops.

As Turbo noted, that quarter of footy was one of his very best as we clawed our way back from the brink. And it was Smithy yet again who got the ball to Jim Bob in those final seconds for the sweetest point in living memory

Fantastic contributor, week after week, was our Smithy...

Just imagine how we'd be remembering him now if he'd actually been more than just 'average to good'?

He was my favourite Cat for a long time. He, Milburn and Rooke shared that status for me. The doers, the no mistakers, the true 1%ers.

 

[goyoucatters]

I reckon he was one of the more underrated players going around.
About 5-6 of his teammates got all the glory but we definitely missed him in retirement.

Genuine gun.

Massively underrated, in my view. And you get the impression that's just the way he liked it.

Definitely missed him when he hung up the boots. And we're still missing him now, based on how many of the current list go missing when the heat is applied.

Whereas with Smithy, the harder and tougher it got, the better he liked it.

A gun amongst a very intimidating arsenal, I agree.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Now we're comparing Hately to Corey. Lol.