Rumour GFC 2020 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt2

[cats_09]

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[Lana]

Gibbs on the rookie list?

 

[Larry Donohue]

Gibbs on the rookie list?

interesting thought. Amazed he's aiming at another club after Adelaide's dismissing him as they did
Selwood, Higgins, Smith, Gibbs, Parfitt, Guthrie, Menegola, Duncan, Dangerfield through the middle

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Gibbs on the rookie list?

Adelaide are rookie listing him for admin purposes as he is still contracted so part of the contract can be paid outside the cap. He wont have any involvement with the club.

 

[Lana]

Adelaide are rookie listing him for admin purposes as he is still contracted so part of the contract can be paid outside the cap. He wont have any involvement with the club.

Someone else drafting him would have no effect on any payout he agreed to with Adelaide. The team that drafts him would be on the hook for the base rookie wage.

 

[Turbocat]

So Carroll is a royal butterfly?

The kid is not what id call an Iron Butterfly ... but the way he reads , reminds me of an other WA talent we gobbled up in the late 20's..



Next under the microscope in our AFL Draft watch is East Fremantle prospect Jack Carroll, a classy midfielder who uses the ball cleanly moving forward. Having cut his teeth across half-back and on the outside, the 17-year-old has also proven his ability to find the ball as a centre bounce feature in 2020. Carroll’s clean hands and agility allow him to weave through traffic and release efficiently via hand or foot, while his potent left side comes to the fore on the outer. With some promising WAFL Colts form this year, the top-ager has risen into first round calculations as he knocks on the door of senior promotion.

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PLAYER PAGE:
Jack Carroll
East Fremantle/Western Australia

DOB: December 20, 2002

Height: 188cm
Weight: 79kg

Position: Midfielder/Half-Back

Strengths: Poise/class, efficiency, agility, versatility, scope
Improvements: Inside game

2020 WAFL Colts averages: 7 games | 22.9 disposals | 3.9 marks | 3.4 tackles | 3.6 inside 50s | 0.9 goals (6)

AFL Draft Watch: Jack Carroll (East Fremantle/Western Australia)

A nicely sized outside midfielder / half-back, Carroll has no problems finding the ball and being one of the classiest players at Colts level.

afl.draftcentral.com.au

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Someone else drafting him would have no effect on any payout he agreed to with Adelaide. The team that drafts him would be on the hook for the base rookie wage.

True but i dont think anyone will draft him.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

There is the old tale about the person with the butterfly net who ran around expending energy and effort swing wildly at anything bright and fluttery... till after expending all their worth, they collapsed under a tree into a state of catatonic stillness , and in that state , the brightest fluttery butterfly came to rest on the persons shoulder......

Perhaps by doing nothing ... a player like Carroll may slide thru to us .. and who knows , he may endup being the best in the bunch. This year..would it really surprise anyone if in years to come , that the best player comes from the 20's or later..?

For sure, I think there's going to be plenty of dud firsts this year and some kids who get past even our p51 who end up quality. I say leave it where it is and take what's on the table when we get there

 

[MelbCat]

Dahlhaus signed a 4-year deal, he's contracted through to 2022 so doubtful he's leaving next year

As it currently stands, contract status next year includes
- UFA: Selwood, C. Guthrie & Bews
- RFA: Kolodjashnij

- Senior list - Constable, De Konning, Evans, Z. Guthrie, Henry, Jarvis, Jenkins, Kreuger, Miers, Narkle, Ratugolea, Rohan, Stanley, Stephens, Taheny,

- Rookie list: Atkins, Brownless, Close & Henderson

- Cat B: Okunbor


In terms of who may leave at the end of next season, would think that the names Selwood, Jenkins & Rohan are in that discussion from the senior list; while guys like Constable (?), Narkle & Z. Guthrie are probably in that make or break season

Could potentially see a clean out of our rookie lists - think Close will be safe as the club was prepared to elevate him to the senior list this post-season if list numbers required it. Others, including Okunbor may be year by year considerations

My apologies for Dollhouse his actually younger than I thought. His only 28
I think we'll go after a gun mid with Joel retiring. We'll have ample coin burning a hole in our wallet

 

[Turbocat]

Outstanding at combine testing ..but limited football exploits ....

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Liam Kolar says draft combine was like his grand final ahead of AFL Draft

The St Mary’s junior clocked an elite 6.02min 2km time trial, the third fastest time in the nation, and a wind-assisted 2.87sec 20m sprint, third fastest at the Vic Metro combine.

As a raw 195cm key forward prospect with plenty of upside Kolar was already on AFL watchlists.

....

A talented junior athlete, it might be no surprise Kolar models his game on a particular Geelong star, and believes his endurance will be his biggest asset at AFL level.

“I’ve been pretty athletic since I was younger, that’s helped a lot, having a strong endurance base it holds me in good stead in footy,” he said.

“I would say I model myself more on Mark Blicavs

46

Mark Blicavs

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

M/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

0.1

2star

D

8.6

3star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

CL

2.0

4star

, coming from that athletics background and having the endurance base.

“When I watch him I really enjoy seeing how he hits the contest and how competitive he is around the ball, so he’s a player I look at in my development.”

 

[Turbocat]

My apologies for Dollhouse his actually younger than I thought. His only 28
I think we'll go after a gun mid with Joel retiring. We'll have ample coin burning a hole in our wallet

He would have been a perfect FA if only he was a mid..

 

[willcxe]

OK - hear me out, Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

has nominated for the draft. Before he did his knee, he was more than serviceable as a key (ish) back. Could he be rookied as a back up in case Hendo gets injured?

 

[Down at K Park]

OK - hear me out, Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

has nominated for the draft. Before he did his knee, he was more than serviceable as a key (ish) back. Could he be rookied as a back up in case Hendo gets injured?

How old is he now?

 

[Turkey Tom]

How old is he now?

Just turned 30 (29 Nov).

 

[crocsta]

I reckon a few recruiters will get cold feet on draft night with lack of information. It may be a case of finding the recruiters not willing to make a call on the night, especially if their target players have already been drafted, and start trading up the draft order


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[Hamingja]

OK - hear me out, Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

has nominated for the draft. Before he did his knee, he was more than serviceable as a key (ish) back. Could he be rookied as a back up in case Hendo gets injured?

Are we sure there is just not someone else called Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

. Got to be a common name out there. Coming off a knee injury, no local footy this year and effectively not played for over 2 and a half years. Surely not. Has to be a better option from the SANFL/WAFL.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

OK - hear me out, Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

has nominated for the draft. Before he did his knee, he was more than serviceable as a key (ish) back. Could he be rookied as a back up in case Hendo gets injured?

A 30 yo old who is average at best... NO thanks.
SDK will play next year to most peoples surprise IMO.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

OK - hear me out, Aaron Black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

has nominated for the draft. Before he did his knee, he was more than serviceable as a key (ish) back. Could he be rookied as a back up in case Hendo gets injured?

There was a guy called aaron black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

in the wafl so it wouldnt surprise me if it was him.
Our aaronblack is 30 so i doubt it...from what o understand he was more interested in transitioning to coaching and business work anyway.

 

[DanA]

No more retreads please. No problem with a 22 y.o having his first crack in the AFL but I don’t want someone that has 5-6 years in the AFL system and come up short.

I also think it’s not a bad idea to leave a spot for the mid-season draft.

 

[MelbCat]

I reckon a few recruiters will get cold feet on draft night with lack of information. It may be a case of finding the recruiters not willing to make a call on the night, especially if their target players have already been drafted, and start trading up the draft order


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They've been tracking players since the junior days, rep sides, state sides etc. They'd have plenty of data available to them.
One year out of footy I personally think will have a massive advantage with rested bodies and more time away from the game. The down side would be lack of game time which players won't be expected to break into the senior side immediately.
Players would have focused on education and personal development not to mention they still had there training schedule.

 

[BigCat1]

Some of the Adel board seem to think that the good oil is that Sth Australian Kaine Baldwin will be taken by us at 27.

Would be some gamble. Top 5 talent but the odds just stacked so far against him now.

Very few nail Geels selections pre draft so I’d be surprised if that was a genuine leak.

 

[ibuprofen]

Outstanding at combine testing ..but limited football exploits ....

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www.heraldsun.com.au

Liam Kolar says draft combine was like his grand final ahead of AFL Draft

The St Mary’s junior clocked an elite 6.02min 2km time trial, the third fastest time in the nation, and a wind-assisted 2.87sec 20m sprint, third fastest at the Vic Metro combine.

As a raw 195cm key forward prospect with plenty of upside Kolar was already on AFL watchlists.

....

A talented junior athlete, it might be no surprise Kolar models his game on a particular Geelong star, and believes his endurance will be his biggest asset at AFL level.

“I’ve been pretty athletic since I was younger, that’s helped a lot, having a strong endurance base it holds me in good stead in footy,” he said.

“I would say I model myself more on Mark Blicavs

46

Mark Blicavs

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

M/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

0.1

2star

D

8.6

3star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

CL

2.0

4star

, coming from that athletics background and having the endurance base.

“When I watch him I really enjoy seeing how he hits the contest and how competitive he is around the ball, so he’s a player I look at in my development.”

And that is the kind of kid that might have got exposed more if the season wasn't shut down. Perfect late pick that could be a really bargain as guys with little exposure fall. Not at 27 but at 51, yeh, have a go.

 

[Larry Donohue]

There was a guy called aaron black

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

in the wafl so it wouldnt surprise me if it was him.
Our aaronblack is 30 so i doubt it...from what o understand he was more interested in transitioning to coaching and business work anyway.

It said he was from Geelong in the article

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Some of the Adel board seem to think that the good oil is that Sth Australian Kaine Baldwin will be taken by us at 27.

Would be some gamble. Top 5 talent but the odds just stacked so far against him now.

Very few nail Geels selections pre draft so I’d be surprised if that was a genuine leak.

It wouldnt surprise me if we take him.

 

[Turbocat]

Some of the Adel board seem to think that the good oil is that Sth Australian Kaine Baldwin will be taken by us at 27.

Would be some gamble. Top 5 talent but the odds just stacked so far against him now.

Very few nail Geels selections pre draft so I’d be surprised if that was a genuine leak.

Be happier if he was 197cm..

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

It wouldn’t be that surprising if Black got another go. But I’d think it would come next year after playing some state league. He played some good footy and judging by the coaches comments when he was injured was well liked at the club.