Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Pure_Ownage]

Forgive me if this is something well known - I didn't hear the Andrew Mackie interview, but based on what was written, it comes across as though we were interested in Jack Bowes before the notion of pick 7 coming with it was raised.

Is this correct?

If you believe hes being honest yet sounds like we have been chasing him for at least 12 months whereas bruhn only came up after that and henry about 2 weeks ago (probably when hopper chose richmond).

 

[catempire]

I dont doubt that but they are in the same boat as us-lots of trades to deal with so i doubt either club moves forward with mckenna until after the trade period.

It is plausible that they and McKenna have agreed and we haven’t had discussions for a while because of that.

 

[Hinkley29]

If you believe hes being honest yet sounds like we have been chasing him for at least 12 months whereas bruhn only came up after that and henry about 2 weeks ago (probably when hopper chose richmond).

I think Mack might have been talking in half truths about Henry.

Yes, he might have only come to a concrete decision 2 weeks ago, but him not signing a new contract was conspicuous all season and we were clearly the most obvious choice if he was going to leave Collingwood. I find it difficult to believe that we weren’t at least monitoring Ollie’s situation for at least a year.

I suspect Mack is publicly playing a straight bat re: Ollie because it does neither us or Ollie no good to say “yeah, we have been into him since the day he was drafted”.

 

[Jumping Jack]

Savs gone by the way Mackie spoke today, possibly to GWS as part of Bruhn deal?

Didn't see it that way myself but who knows?

Trade period is as much about calling people's bluff as anything else. I just think Mackie is leaving it for people to read into the Sav matter as they see fit. I think he's a required player, but the way I'm reading it is that if someone else steps forward and offers something juicy then Geelong will consider.

If Geelong put him on the market to the highest bidder then they're flagging that he's surplus to our needs and we lose all bargaining power. These decisions are collective one's and don't just sit with one person at the club. Chris Scott is part of that group and if he wants Sav to stay then I suspect it's going to take a big change of heart from the club to let him walk.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think Mack might have been talking in half truths about Henry.

Yes, he might have only come to a concrete decision 2 weeks ago, but him not signing a new contract was conspicuous all season and we were clearly the most obvious choice if he was going to leave Collingwood. I find it difficult to believe that we weren’t at least monitoring Ollie’s situation for at least a year.

I suspect Mack is publicly playing a straight bat re: Ollie because it does neither us or Ollie no good to say “yeah, we have been into him since the day he was drafted”.

Yeah we would have been monitoring all year and aware he hadnt signed because of our family connection but i honestly think we expected to get hopper and didnt expect we had the picks to do henry. Henrys manager would have been telling him not to nominate geelong until he is sure we can get it done. Then hopper who was coming to us is swayed by a 7 year offer from richmond (which we were never gonna match)and thats what changed re our ability to get henry. The timeline fits.

 

[GeelongFTW]

Mackie is the perfect type of operator for trade week (and list management). Razor sharp wit

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It is plausible that they and McKenna have agreed and we haven’t had discussions for a while because of that.

Thats possible but brisbane wont really know until after the trade period how many spare rookie spots they have so i dont think this happens until later.

 

[iameviljez]

Yeah we would have been monitoring all year and aware he hadnt signed because of our family connection but i honestly think we expected to get hopper and didnt expect we had the picks to do henry. Henrys manager would have been telling him not to nominate geelong until he is sure we can get it done. Then hopper who was coming to us is swayed by a 7 year offer from richmond (which we were never gonna match)and thats what changed re our ability to get henry. The timeline fits.

I agree, and I think it's the same with Grundy too. Once targets one and two were no longer gettable, we just moved on to three and four (Bruhn and Henry).

 

[iameviljez]

Mackie is the perfect type of operator for trade week (and list management). Razor sharp wit

Could sledge the other list managers till they give in

 

[GeelongFTW]

Yeah we would have been monitoring all year and aware he hadnt signed because of our family connection but i honestly think we expected to get hopper and didnt expect we had the picks to do henry. Henrys manager would have been telling him not to nominate geelong until he is sure we can get it done. Then hopper who was coming to us is swayed by a 7 year offer from richmond (which we were never gonna match)and thats what changed re our ability to get henry. The timeline fits.

Mackie referenced that we miss out on players from being priced out. But ofc opposition fans only focus on the ones that nominate us. Same with Geelong area- nobody thinks about the players that never consider us because they want Melbourne city only

 

[cats_09]

Mackie whistling a different tune about Sav today…

Wonder if they feel we're likely to land all 3 trade targets, and doing so would mean needing to ensure we have adequate currency to do so while also leaving us with only 1 spot on draft night

If they're wanting to use even 2 picks on draft night then it would mean at least one more player off the list

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I agree, and I think it's the same with Grundy too. Once targets one and two were no longer gettable, we just moved on to three and four (Bruhn and Henry).

Thats the other issue. We were chasing grundy hard until he decided he wanted to stay in melb (location was ths issue there as to why he didnt pick us) so we didnt expect to have picks and cap free for bruhn and henry. Mackie saying we dont normally chase 20yos was a clue, we only pivoted to them once the other targets fell through..as you say they were the next best players on our possibles list.

Bowes he sounded much different though sounds like we have been chasing him for a fair while.

 

[GeelongFTW]

Could sledge the other list managers till they give in

mack entering the room to talk trades

 

[GeelongFTW]

Wonder if they feel we're likely to land all 3 trade targets, and doing so would mean needing to ensure we have adequate currency to do so while also leaving us with only 1 spot on draft night

If they're wanting to use even 2 picks on draft night then it would mean at least one more player off the list

simpson to rookie list?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Wonder if they feel we're likely to land all 3 trade targets, and doing so would mean needing to ensure we have adequate currency to do so while also leaving us with only 1 spot on draft night

If they're wanting to use even 2 picks on draft night then it would mean at least one more player off the list

If its the list spot (ie we need more list spots for the trade ins) we would be more likely to delist and rookie simpson than sav imo.
Its more the first part of your post if all three players nominate us and our picks alone arent enough currency to get all done thats when you think about trading sav (for currency to close the deal).

 

[supahoops]

Said at the start that we an afford to sit back and play it cool here, no one trade affects another and listening to Mackie we have the perfect operator

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

Mackie is the perfect type of operator for trade week (and list management). Razor sharp wit

"Do we get 4 points for trading with these blokes or just 2?"

 

[cats_09]

simpson to rookie list?

If its the list spot (ie we need more list spots for the trade ins) we would be more likely to delist and rookie simpson than sav imo.
Its more the first part of your post if all three players nominate us and our picks alone arent enough currency to get all done thats when you think about trading sav (for currency to close the deal).

Simpson seems something of the forgotten player so far this off season, but I wonder if it'll be a similar situation to what's happened the past couple of seasons with someone like Narkle - out of contract going into the trade period before being a last signing following the trade period once list spots & such was known

I'd hope it's a known situation with Simpson about how things may play out, and we'll have clarity on it sooner than later

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

ACCURATE.

 

[cats_09]

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Simpson seems something of the forgotten player so far this off season, but I wonder if it'll be a similar situation to what's happened the past couple of seasons with someone like Narkle - out of contract going into the trade period before being a last signing following the trade period once list spots & such was known

I'd hope it's a known situation with Simpson about how things may play out, and we'll have clarity on it sooner than later

Yes similarity there but given hes confirmed the 2 rookies elevations which leaves us with 1 senior list spot (if 3 trades in) i think he will be delisted and re rookied so we can take a 2nd draft pick.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Brisbane paying way unders for dunkley.
Dogs getting too little for dunkley.
Melbourne getting way too much for jackson.
Silly trade radio.

 

[Turbocat]

I hope Melb is paying Bowes wage..if we do not get the P7

 

[ninjahcat]

I still look forward to seeing what this famous ‘culture’ looks like in 5 or 6 years time when Selwood, Hawk, Danger, etc are no longer with us. I cant recall our culture being so highly spoken of through our 07 - 11 period, makes me think it may be player related more so than club. Time will tell.

That's why we appointed Tom Harley as captain to improve the culture and he did a great job of it. Was a fantastic selection. I think we only had a few rogue players like SJ that needed a bit of "culture corralling".
Sad to see him look so dejected in Q3 during the granny. . okay maybe not

 

[Turbocat]

A few names in the ALL side that have been mentioned in this forum

2022 NAB AFL National Championships U18 Boys All-Australian Team

Who made it? Check out the young guns named in the 2022 NAB AFL All-Australian team

www.afl.com.au

Please find below player profiles for all players selected in the 2022 NAB AFL National Championships U18 Boys All-Australian Team, compiled by Kevin Sheehan.

Back Pocket
Jed Hagan (Western Australia/East Fremantle/Brigades)
Date of Birth: 15/10/04; Height: 175cm; Weight: 73kg
Versatile player who played in all parts of the ground in the Championships, averaging 17 disposals (75% efficiency) and four tackles. Was among his team’s best players in all three matches, always playing with passion and determination that belies his physical size.

Full Back
Josh Weddle (Victoria Metro/Oakleigh Chargers/Eltham)
Date of Birth: 25/05/04; Height: 192cm; Weight: 89kg
Rock solid in defence in all matches for Victoria Metro. His intercept marking, strength one-on-one and dash from the back half are features of his game. Averaged 15 disposals, four marks, three tackles and four rebound 50s per game in an impressive Championships.

Back Pocket
Lewis Hayes (Victoria Metro/Eastern Ranges/Lysterfield)
Date of Birth: 17/12/04; Height: 197cm; Weight: 81kg
Tall and agile defender who made great decisions on when to mark or spoil, as well as being neat with his ball use on the way out of defence. Averaged 17 disposals (91% efficiency), six marks and five rebound 50s to be an important cog in Victoria Metro’s Championships-winning team.

Half Back Flank
Lachlan Cowan (Allies/Tasmania Devils/North Launceston)
Date of Birth: 01/12/04; Height: 188cm; Weight: 81kg
A strong and powerful medium defender who intercepted extremely well and provided dash for the Allies. Averaged 22 disposals (75% efficiency), four tackles and six rebound 50s to be consistently one of his team’s best players. Being named an All-Australian capped off a superb year for Cowan, who was the joint winner of the NAB League’s Morrish Medal.

Centre Half Back
Jedd Busslinger (Western Australia/East Perth/Coolbinia)
Date of Birth: 11/03/04; Height: 196cm; Weight: 83kg
A tall defender whose intercept marking is a feature of his game, along with his precise ball use and composure. Was among his side’s best in matches against Victoria Metro and the Allies, averaging 22 disposals (75% efficiency) seven marks and five rebound 50s, before being curtailed by a shoulder injury.

Half Back Flank
Harley Reid (Victoria Country/Bendigo Pioneers/Tongala)
Date of Birth: 17/04/05; Height: 185cm; Weight: 78kg
A versatile bottom-aged player who was outstanding for his team predominantly in defence. His contested marking, line-breaking speed and precise ball use are all features of his play. Moved forward in the final quarter of the deciding match of the Championships and almost lifted Victoria Country over the line with two goals from contested marks. Averaged 20 disposals (83% efficiency) and seven marks.

Wing
Jaspa Fletcher (Allies/Brisbane Lions Academy/Sherwood)
Date of Birth: 24/02/04; Height: 184cm; Weight: 73kg
A medium midfielder who played on both the inside and outside. Key features of his game include his step through traffic, composure with the ball and ability to win the contested ball. Averaged 23 disposals (78% efficiency) and three tackles. Also won the Hunter Harrison Medal as the Best and Fairest player in the Academy series as part of selection for the Allies.

Centre
Will Ashcroft (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Old Brighton Grammarians)
Date of Birth: 06/05/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 79kg
Exciting midfielder who dominated throughout the Championships. Averaged 33 disposals, 15 contested possessions, nine clearances and six tackles to completely impose himself on all matches. Won the ball on both the inside and outside with an exciting burst of speed. His influence on games was a major factor in Victoria Metro winning the Championships. Won both his side’s MVP and the Larke Medal as the Best and Fairest player of the Championships.

Wing
Jaxon Binns (Victoria Country/Dandenong Stingrays/Berwick)
Date of Birth: 29/10/04; Height: 182cm; Weight: 72kg
Played on the wing for the majority of the Championships and was a running machine, averaging 26 disposals and six marks per game. Has the ability to find space as well as connect with teammates, as demonstrated by averaging 11 handball receives. He provided consistent forward entries for this team with his 39 disposal game against the Allies, which was an outstanding individual performance.

Half Forward Flank
Harry Rowston (Allies/GWS Giants Academy/Calder Cannons/Griffith Swans)
Date of Birth: 12/08/04; Height: 182cm; Weight: 78kg
A midfielder/forward who excelled in both roles. Was a prolific ball winner in the centre of the ground and kicked important goals for his team when forward for the Allies. Averaged 23 disposals (72% efficiency) with 10 contested possessions. Was a model of consistency throughout the Championships and won the Allies’ MVP award.

Centre Half Forward
Jed Walter (Allies/Gold Coast Suns Academy/Palm Beach Currumbin)
Date of Birth: 08/06/05; Height: 195cm; Weight: 91kg
Bottom-aged tall forward who played with a real physical presence up forward. His attack on the ball in marking contests and at ground level was a real asset. Also used his speed and agility to great effect. Averaged nine disposals and four marks, which belied his real influence as he kicked multiple goals in three matches and finished with nine goals for the Championships.

Half Forward Flank
Cameron Mackenzie (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris)
Date of Birth: 21/01/04; Height: 187cm; Weight: 80kg
A medium midfielder who had an ultra-consistent Championship, averaging 25 disposals (75% efficiency) with an excellent balance of contested possessions (10) and uncontested possessions (15). Used his elite speed, along with his vision and neat disposal to set up his team forward of centre.

Forward Pocket
Harry Sheezel (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Ajax)
Date of Birth: 13/10/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 74kg
Medium forward who showed a touch of class with a special ability to make something out of nothing around the goals. Kicked eight majors for the Championships, as well as averaging 15 disposals and three marks. Showed the ability to read the cues ahead of others, with his crafty winning of the ball whether in the air or off hands. Always looked dangerous and capable of turning opponents inside out.

Full Forward
Aaron Cadman (Victoria Country/GWV Rebels/Darley)
Date of Birth: 03/03/04; Height: 194cm; Weight: 88kg
A left-footed tall forward with a vice-like grip overhead. Averaged six marks and 14 disposals to be a real standout performer for Victoria Country. Kicked 10 goals for the Championships, including three goals in the deciding match against Victoria Metro, when he was one of the most influential players on the ground.

Forward Pocket
Matthew Jefferson (Victoria Metro/Oakleigh Chargers/Ashburton)
Date of Birth: 08/03/04; Height: 195cm; Weight: 78kg
A tall forward whose marking both on the lead and in a contested situation was his weapon. Averaged four marks and nine disposals to be the key deep target for the Championships-winning team. Finished with 14 goals overall, including seven goals against Western Australia in a standout performance.

Ruck
Harry Barnett (South Australia/West Adelaide/Goodwood)
Date of Birth: 22/01/04; Height: 202cm; Weight: 93kg
A strong-marking ruckman and tall forward who showed a real physical presence around the ball, as well as impressive ruck craft and strong hands overhead. Was his team’s best player in their narrow loss to Victoria Country, which was his standout performance. Averaged 12 disposals and 15 hitouts in his three matches, being the best performed ruckman despite missing one game.

Ruck Rover
Reuben Ginbey (Western Australia/East Perth/Dunsborough)
Date of Birth: 10/09/04; Height: 188cm; Weight: 81kg
Left-footed midfielder who was outstanding in winning contested ball and showed a real burst of speed from stoppage. Averaged 21 disposals, 10 contested possessions, four tackles and three clearances to be a shining light for Western Australia. Considered more of a defender coming into the Championships, he was his team’s best player against the Allies and Victoria Country and consistent in other matches to win Western Australia’s MVP award.

Rover
Jhye Clark (Victoria Country/Geelong Falcons/Queenscliff)
Date of Birth: 23/07/04; Height: 180cm; Weight: 77kg
Hard-edged midfielder who attacked the ball aggressively and distributed it neatly by both hand and foot on either side of his body. Also displayed hard running both ways. Averaged 23 disposals (70% efficiency), four clearances and five tackles in an outstanding Championships. Finished runner-up in the Larke Medal, as well as winning Victoria Country’s MVP award.

Interchange
Adam D’Aloia (South Australia/Woodville West Torrens/Henley)
Date of Birth: 09/04/04; Height: 186cm; Weight: 86kg
A strong-bodied medium midfielder who was ultra-consistent for South Australia throughout the Championships. Averaged 24 disposals (78% efficiency), with 14 contested possessions and five inside 50s to take out his team’s MVP award.

Oliver Hollands (Victoria Country/Murray Bushrangers/Wodonga)
Date of Birth: 16/01/04; Height: 183cm; Weight: 73kg
Medium midfielder who used his elite aerobic capacity, courage and clean hands to be a prolific ball winner for Victoria Country. Averaged 24 disposals (75% efficiency) and four tackles to be one of his team’s consistent performers throughout the Championships.

Olli Hotton (Victoria Metro/Sandringham Dragons/Hampton Rovers)
Date of Birth: 06/09/04; Height: 181cm; Weight: 77kg
Quick and agile forward with a very good feel for the game. Got into dangerous spots to create for his team throughout the Championships. Averaged 17 disposals, seven contested possessions and finished with six goals across four matches. Was outstanding in Victoria Metro’s comprehensive win over South Australia, with 24 disposals and three goals.

Darcy Jones (Western Australia/Swan Districts/Kalamunda)
Date of Birth: 03/04/04; Height: 174cm; Weight: 63kg
A small midfielder who is quick, skilful and has footy smarts, all attributes which were displayed prominently in his three matches. Averaged 20 disposals and eight contested possessions per game, as well as finishing with four goals. Missed one match but was an eyecatcher for his team.

Max Michalanney (South Australia/Norwood/ Glenunga)
Date of Birth: 26/02/04; Height: 192cm; Weight: 78kg
Mobile defender who used his reach and speed to negate the effectiveness of his opponents throughout the Championships. Was South Australia’s best player in its win over the Allies and narrow loss to Victoria Country. Averaged 13 disposals (72% efficiency) and five tackles per game.