Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[cats_09]

 

[Grimoz]

Knowing GWS they will want 2 first rounders, a future first and Parfitt for Bruhn!!!

 

[Lana]

I don’t get that as outside of the very traditional roles the game and players positions are very fluid. Rolling up and back etc.

If he plays as a midfielder that group we have very few players with speed and silky ball use.

I also see a role for Henry. The reason Rohan is so important other than speed is that he competes in the air. Tommy can’t jump at all and when outnumbered struggles to bring it to ground. Cameron too just isn’t that player. Henry and Rohan would be vying for the that hybrid role. Who is else on the current list fits that category? Maybe Dempsey but I reckon he is going to see a lot of midfield time in the VFL next season from all the games I saw.

Lot of total football going around but there are distinct roles that players a trying to fulfil in different phases of the game, outside of the system it hard for us to get exactly what these are. Rohan's role is a lot clearer for the casual than Miers. The Camera angles and level of zoom is completely unhelpful.

Using the O.Henry as an example, he would be a post Rohan selection, but plan A for us next year should just be Rohan. We used Henry to cover in his absence, or roll danger forward and/or give a kid a game. And look at what else we can get with the 1-2 round pick and 3 year 350k contract.

I see VFL position as a way to fix up a players deficiencies not preparation for an AFL role.

For example you a have KPD who is a confident stopper but doesn't try to win the ball enough, have him play a year forward and make him learn how to win the ball in the air.

For Dempsey, he was just really raw from a game sense, from limited vision at AFL level wasn't getting involved without doing something over the top athletically. It is clear that he won't get much out of playing forward at VFL, at his rawest he was looking like a 30-40 goal a year player at VFL level. Two years as an inside mid at VFL level is probably the best way to fast track his ability to find space, then after a pre-season with our forward he becomes that Rohan replacement.

 

[Kyuss]

I've given this about 3 seconds of thought but any chance Gold Coasts pick 25 is gettable? Knowing they will want to move to Brisbane's first pick (and probably their 2nd as well since Bris's first 2 picks will get swallowed up most likely)

We have our 2nd and a bunch of thirds. Might mean we get to keep next years first.

For GC it could mean they have more ammo to satisfy Brisbane while holding on to more of their 2nd rounders than they otherwise might have.

18 and 25 would get close to landing Bruhn and Henry (yes I know will be pushed out etc etc but still close)

 

[Kyuss]

Knowing GWS they will want 2 first rounders, a future first and Parfitt for Bruhn!!!

Hopefully they have their shafting mindset focused solely on Richmond

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

You could make a tidy trade in teams belief that ‘next year’s draft will be better’.

Yep next years draft is always better

 

[Warhorse]

Hopefully they have their shafting mindset focused solely on Richmond

They definitely do. I wouldn't pay 2 firsts for hopper

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Would happily give our first next year for Henry if that's what it comes to, back us to be there or thereabouts again next year. Similar to the Holmes deal IMO.

 

[FishGutz]

It’s strange how cool people are on Bruhn in here. He’s a 20 year old, who is classy, fast and very smooth. He could slot straight into the midfield and offer us something we don’t have. Coming into his third preseason is the perfect time for his career to blossom, too. He could go bang for us instantly and have a better year than Hopper, while being 5 years younger, without Hopper’s knee issues and coming a lot cheaper in terms of contracts and assets we’d have to give up.


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[goyoucatters]

Great news about Tanner wanting to head home.

And so good to get in early and post in this thread before posters start losing their minds over the next homestead they believe we'll be hawking off to get him on the list.

Oh, wait...

 

[Strange Cat]

Imagine we get Parish next year …the midfield will be set with hopefully a improved Cooper and Knvettit

Doesn’t look so bad now

 

[Grimoz]

Imagine we get Parish next year …the midfield will be set with hopefully a improved Cooper and Knvettit

Doesn’t look so bad now

Knevitt is nowhere near it, same with Cooper, i reckon more likely to be delisted than be starting in our midfield.

Also where has this talk of Parish come from, he could almost be captaining the Dons next year.

 

[Strange Cat]

Knevitt is nowhere near it, same with Cooper, i reckon more likely to be delisted than be starting in our midfield.

Things can change very quickly with a solid pre season and time I’m not saying they are locks for next year but 24 onwards it’s possible

 

[STPer18]

Even if we never traded for Cameron, Bruhn was still out of our range at pick 12. Nice to get one of the more highly-touted kids from that draft. Funnily enough if we hypothetically were to land Henry too, that'd see us end with Holmes, Henry and Bruhn, all top 20 picks in the same draft we traded out of to land Cameron.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Can the people that are in a rush to hand over a 1st rounder for Bruhn please explain to me why?

And I mean specifics to what he offers and what you have observed from him on the field.

Not just "he was pick 12 and is ready to blossom in his third year" because that is just hoping.

 

[STPer18]

Holmes, Henry and Bruhn would be a great haul from 2020 draft. More than we would have got if we hadn’t traded those picks for Cameron. Sure we still have to incur the cost of our next two first round picks most likely. But it is a great haul of talent from that draft year - if we pull it off.

That's what I get for posting before reading.

 

[SkittleCats]

It’s strange how cool people are on Bruhn in here. He’s a 20 year old, who is classy, fast and very smooth. He could slot straight into the midfield and offer us something we don’t have. Coming into his third preseason is the perfect time for his career to blossom, too. He could go bang for us instantly and have a better year than Hopper, while being 5 years younger, without Hopper’s knee issues and coming a lot cheaper in terms of contracts and assets we’d have to give up.


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Im also not sure how Bruhn coming to Geelong hurts Stephens in any way, which seems to be the popular sentiment here over the last couple of pages. Bruhn and Stephens will both have a place in our midfield as the older guys begin to transition out.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Knevitt is nowhere near it, same with Cooper, i reckon more likely to be delisted than be starting in our midfield.

Also where has this talk of Parish come from, he could almost be captaining the Dons next year.

Very, very harsh.

One is built like a matchstick and in his first year, the other has hardly had any continuity over his last 3 seasons.

They're not all going to be Joel Selwood....or even Max Holmes. The kids take time.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Defence:

Kolodjashnij
De Koning
Stevens
Bews
Henry
Z.Guthrie
O'Connor
Stewart

Midfield/Ruck:

Stanley
Ceglar
Tuohy
Parfitt
Higgins
Conway
Smith
Holmes
Knevitt
Whyte
Stephens
Selwood
Narkle
Willis
Duncan
Kroeger
Menegola
C.Guthrie
Atkins
Dangerfield
Tsapatolis
Simpson
Blicavs

Forward:

Cameron
Ratugolea
Stengle
Evans
Miers
Neale
Dahlhaus
Rohan
Dempsey
Hawkins
Close

Thought I'd group the list based on age profile and field position, and before anyone takes it to task I am aware some players fit into multiple areas of the field, but don't think the creative license with classification drastically alters my point. Green is 18-25yo. Yellow is 26-29yo and Red is anyone 30+.

Couple of things; easy to see why we are again at the pointy end of the season, we have lots of players with lots of experience. None of which have seemingly degraded to the point of being carried are getting senior games (Dahlhaus/Higgins). But only 5 on the list in their prime atm and lots of green yet to prove themselves as AFL footballers presents challenges for the next 3-5 years. O'Connor (25), Narkle (24 - likely delisted), Parfitt, Simpson, Guthrie, Close, Ratugolea and Henry (all 24) are to come into their prime in the next couple of years. But none of them move the needle in the midfield, which as above is about to see lots of retirements in the next 1-25 months.

This is probably why our interest in De Goey and Hopper petering out to no avail is disappointing. It is a gap in the list that could have been filled. Bruhn - while a handy pick up but is still in the Knevitt and Stephens category of not proven at AFL level but has promise. Hopper would have moved the needle a little bit and I hope Mackie is in the ears of Parish's management - RFA in 2023. We have a strong need to either develop or draft or trade for mids. Possibly a combination of the 3. Henry and McKenna while not in as critical areas of need would still be filling gaps in the list. McKenna could provide the speed and dash from the HBF/Wing like Tuohy has been and we're also losing Smith soon as well. Henry seems a natural replacement for Rohan but we'll wait and see if he jumps ship first.

 

[Sire of Claude]

As things stand right now, Bruhn is probably our best chance of introducing some decent youth in to mid-field next year, so he will be a good get.

Remember we're an old team, in the sense that we have a plethora of players at or over 30, with all that that entails - more injuries, slowing down etc. Bruhn and Henry, if we snag him, will get plenty of AFL time next year.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Hopefully they have their shafting mindset focused solely on Richmond

Yes, Hopper & Tarrant are much bigger fishes in the market than Bruhn. I don't think it'll be too bad this time round.

 

[Turbocat]

Getting Henry and Bruhn would be huge. Injection of young talent - just what we need. I would be comfortably with this years first and next years first to land them both. Wells does his best work latter in the draft anyway.

It seems such typical addition..two early picked Falcons but if one has the chance to addem , at a discount to what they were picked..just seems good value.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

This is probably why our interest in De Goey and Hopper petering out to no avail is disappointing.

The interest in Hopper petered out based on the kind of money he was after. Geelong doesn't pay overs. I don't think things ever got that far with DeGoey other than an expression of interest and maybe a chat.

 

[David the Cat]

Even if we never traded for Cameron, Bruhn was still out of our range at pick 12. Nice to get one of the more highly-touted kids from that draft. Funnily enough if we hypothetically were to land Henry too, that'd see us end with Holmes, Henry and Bruhn, all top 20 picks in the same draft we traded out of to land Cameron.

Yesss...what a laugh eh?

 

[00VicWard001]

Yes, Hopper & Tarrant are much bigger fishes in the market than Bruhn. I don't think it'll be too bad this time round.

I like this new way of thinking. We're terrible at picking first round players, so why not let other teams pick them up, develop them, teach them a bit and then if they show promise, we just give our next first round pick for them. They are a bit older yes, but they are ready to play right away.

I hope GWS pick up a few Geelong boys with their plethora of first round picks.

 

[strauchnyy]

Cats could send 18 to GWS and ask for 39 in return but probably settle on 57

Trade Evans to port for 52

send all but 46 to Brisbane (1602) for pick 13

send 13 to pies for Henry and 48

go to draft with two picks

Good until you said 13 to Henry + 48

In all honesty Henry is worth ~pick 25 imo. A mark kick forward without a defensive game. A third tall forward needs to have a bigger game than that in todays football. Rohan is so important more so for his speed defensive tackling as well as his attacking skills. It’s why Dan Menzel ms career was shut, he just didn’t defend it participate in general play if he didn’t mark it (although that’s due to his knees).

I think there’s real qs marks on Henry’s ability to broaden his game. Otherwise I don’t think he makes it. He has talent but I Wouldn’t be sending R1s without some due diligence