Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[cats_09]

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Good until you said 13 to Henry + 48

In all honesty Henry is worth ~pick 25 imo. A mark kick forward without a defensive game. A third tall forward needs to have a bigger game than that in todays football. Rohan is so important more so for his speed defensive tackling as well as his attacking skills. It’s why Dan Menzel ms career was shut, he just didn’t defend it participate in general play if he didn’t mark it (although that’s due to his knees).

I think there’s real qs marks on Henry’s ability to broaden his game. Otherwise I don’t think he makes it. He has talent but I Wouldn’t be sending R1s without some due diligence

Re Henry's defensive game;

It's one of those one's that gets said once, gets repeated and flows on to the next person then gets repeated by everyone who assumes it true despite being false.

 

[BigCat1]

We should be focussed on what the Giants accepted in a trade for Caldwell.

Or look to move up those thirds to jag something between 25-30. The Giants are going to be spending all trade week with the Tigers. If the Tigers bend them over (which they will) then they can hardly play hard ball with us.

Henry would definitely cost our 1st. There is no getting around it given the outrage from Collingwood.

I’d like to keep next years first. If we could
Get both Henry and Bruhn and only use 4 of our 5 picks under 55 in some form of package then that would be a good outcome.

 

[BigCat1]

Good until you said 13 to Henry + 48

In all honesty Henry is worth ~pick 25 imo. A mark kick forward without a defensive game. A third tall forward needs to have a bigger game than that in todays football. Rohan is so important more so for his speed defensive tackling as well as his attacking skills. It’s why Dan Menzel ms career was shut, he just didn’t defend it participate in general play if he didn’t mark it (although that’s due to his knees).

I think there’s real qs marks on Henry’s ability to broaden his game. Otherwise I don’t think he makes it. He has talent but I Wouldn’t be sending R1s without some due diligence

Won’t Brisbanes pick be 15 after finals?

Why complicate the potential Henry trade. We win this week and with FS and potential Norf compo our pick will be 20 or 21. Pretty close to Henry’s value. Prob under but the media will be able to use the magical “first rounder” to appease the Coll nuffs

Bruhn you just point straight to the Caldwell trade or wait until after the Tigers bleed them dry. You can’t hardly ask for picks under 18 when all they will get for Hopper will be pick 15-18 (next year) and some loose change at best

 

[CatToTheFuture]

That is true, we certainly didn't play the percentages on that one. Hands up who was going nuts when we made that call... How's Tom Brown going right now.

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[CatToTheFuture]

HBF , Out of contract in 2023 without a game yet... no comparison is there.

Hrmmm, bring him in for a second next year?

 

[calder_daddy]

Can the people that are in a rush to hand over a 1st rounder for Bruhn please explain to me why?

And I mean specifics to what he offers and what you have observed from him on the field.

Not just "he was pick 12 and is ready to blossom in his third year" because that is just hoping.Some people compare him to Caldwell mainly because he’s a Giants player but I’ve said multiple time the trade should look more like the Jordan Clark trade

Low 20’s which if you look at it from a number point of view if we win the flag or even finish runner up with be 20/21 which is about right IMO

Try and not look at it as a round pick, use the numeral

 

[longtimecat]

Even if we never traded for Cameron, Bruhn was still out of our range at pick 12. Nice to get one of the more highly-touted kids from that draft. Funnily enough if we hypothetically were to land Henry too, that'd see us end with Holmes, Henry and Bruhn, all top 20 picks in the same draft we traded out of to land Cameron.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

2020 - Holmes (live trade)
2021 - No R1 - live traded the prior year
2022 -
2023 -

As it stands we can trade this years R1 as we drafted Stephens and De Koning in the first round in 2019.
However as it stands if we trade our R1 this year we cannot trade next years.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

"Hey CTTTF, show me in a screenshot how much you want Tanner Bruhn"

 

[strauchnyy]

Bruhn: agree above in you point to Caldwell. I’d do something like:

18 + 36 for Bruhn + 21. GWS get 36 plus an upgrade from 21 to 18. They can’t ask for much more than that based on output, precedent and what they get for hopper TT etc.

Then use 21 for Henry + pick in the 40s (say 47).

Evans for 56.

Then package 51,54, 56, 60 for Brisbanes 33.

Gives us 33, 46, 47 to take to draft.

• Bruhn
• Henry

 

[David the Cat]

You have to remember, a significant percentage of this board thinks MOC is borderline elite and Miers is the next coming of Paul Chapman. The ability of most on here to appraise talent is limited at best.

Im also not sure how Bruhn coming to Geelong hurts Stephens in any way, which seems to be the popular sentiment here over the last couple of pages. Bruhn and Stephens will both have a place in our midfield as the older guys begin to transition out.

Other posters are entitled to their opinions, as you are. You don't deserve ridicule, for them, and neither do they.

I must say I haven't heard anyone compare Miers to Chapman, or express a belief O'Connor as borderline elite. Perhaps I missed it? Or perhaps its a false premise.

Anyway, as for the second paragraph of your post, I couldn't agree more. If anything, Bruhn's arrival could well spur Stephens on to greater things.

 

[Shooooltzey]

Many recruiters believe next year could be a super draft so I would avoid using future firsts at all costs. I would prefer to try and use this year's first and second and next year's second instead.

Both are clearly worth more than a single second rounder though. Ask any recruiter and if they were hypothetically in this year's draft they would both be gone before pick 20.

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[D BRIDGE]

Low 20’s which if you look at it from a number point of view if we win the flag or even finish runner up with be 20/21 which is about right IMO

Try and not look at it as a round pick, use the numeral

I understand our 1st rounder will end up around #20.

Just wanting to understand exactly why people say "they rate" Bruhn, besides going off that he was drafted pick #12.

 

[Kyuss]

2020 - Holmes (live trade)
2021 - No R1 - live traded the prior year
2022 -
2023 -

As it stands we can trade this years R1 as we drafted Stephens and De Koning in the first round in 2019.
However as it stands if we trade our R1 this year we cannot trade next years.

Not sure those rules are set in stone. Basically the AFL can approve whatever they want.
But can point to it if they think a club is being overly reckless.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2020 - Holmes (live trade)
2021 - No R1 - live traded the prior year
2022 -
2023 -

As it stands we can trade this years R1 as we drafted Stephens and De Koning in the first round in 2019.
However as it stands if we trade our R1 this year we cannot trade next years.

I thought it would only contain us from trading out the 2024 pick?

 

[CatRiot]

Fiorini is the one to target, wont be surprised if he does a Will Brodie next year.

I always thought he was a decent player. I think at the right club with the right player mix and structures, he would be a good pickup.

I've given this about 3 seconds of thought but any chance Gold Coasts pick 25 is gettable? Knowing they will want to move to Brisbane's first pick (and probably their 2nd as well since Bris's first 2 picks will get swallowed up most likely)

We have our 2nd and a bunch of thirds. Might mean we get to keep next years first.

For GC it could mean they have more ammo to satisfy Brisbane while holding on to more of their 2nd rounders than they otherwise might have.

18 and 25 would get close to landing Bruhn and Henry (yes I know will be pushed out etc etc but still close)

I reckon two picks in the 20s would land both. Eg, picks between 20-25.

Can the people that are in a rush to hand over a 1st rounder for Bruhn please explain to me why?

And I mean specifics to what he offers and what you have observed from him on the field.

Not just "he was pick 12 and is ready to blossom in his third year" because that is just hoping.

He was drafted on hype too mind you, he hadn't played a lot of footy in U18s or U17s due to injury and Covid.

Draft Central said his pace was a potential issue, now I must admit I haven't watched him closely, but from highlights I've seen of him he is no slow coach. He was being played out of position a lot as a small forward.

I must admit he must be a durable type, because at his age he has already chalked up quite a few AFL games. His stats in the VFL system were pretty decent too as a first year player in the system and probably being played as a Midfielder/Forward - banging goals, and chalking up touches.

- Tanner Bruhn

vfl.aflmstats.com

You can see in the highlights here he burns past his opponent, scoops the ball with pace and slots a goal. There is something there for sure, but whether he has the grunt power to play as an inside/outside midfielder at top level footy (afl seniors) is another question...

 

[calder_daddy]

Many recruiters believe next year could be a super draft so I would avoid using future firsts at all costs. I would prefer to try and use this year's first and second and next year's second instead.

Both are clearly worth more than a single second rounder though. Ask any recruiter and if they were hypothetically in this year's draft they would both be gone before pick 20.

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This Literally gets spoken about every year then just before the draft “this years draft isn’t that deep” followed by “next years draft is a super draft

I understand our 1st rounder will end up around #20.

Just wanting to understand exactly why people say "they rate" Bruhn, besides going off that he was drafted pick #12.

Agree, he got dropped a lot and was sub on multiple occasions

 

[The rabbi]

Cats could send 18 to GWS and ask for 39 in return but probably settle on 57

Trade Evans to port for 52

send all but 46 to Brisbane (1602) for pick 13

send 13 to pies for Henry and 48

go to draft with two picks

Wouldn't Geelong need to upgrade Brad Close from the Rookie list during the draft?
Wouldn't that leave us with 1 pick?
The Cats players list page no longer seems to identify rookie listed players as in the past for some reason.

 

[BORIS332]

Bruhn straight swap for p18 is fair for both parties. Late firsts are a lottery.

 

[Cataholic]

I hope Selwood's baby is a boy, maybe even two of them.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2020 - Holmes (live trade)
2021 - No R1 - live traded the prior year
2022 -
2023 -

As it stands we can trade this years R1 as we drafted Stephens and De Koning in the first round in 2019.
However as it stands if we trade our R1 this year we cannot trade next years.

Just on this. What a broken system when a trade period that ends up with us having 3 first round selected kids from 2020 on the books prevents us from said trade because we don't have enough first round picks since 2020 on the books

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I hope Selwood's baby is a boy, maybe even two of them.

AFLW needs captains too

 

[CatRiot]

Quite surprised Bruhn selected the Cats. I thought he was going to be attracted to the big city lights...

 

[D BRIDGE]

I hope Selwood's baby is a boy, maybe even two of them

Triplet Father Son guns would be unreal.

The AFL would have to change rules if that happened because a club would never get enough points to use on them all.

Twins will probably happen one day for some club.

 

[Cataholic]

AFLW needs captains too

True.

I don't watch it, so I'm biased to developing the men's team.