Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Too much for me.... I'd rather swap our Pick 7 for their Pick 17 which would be lost on Croft/FS bid and give them our 2nd round next year.
They get 2 picks (7 & 11) under Croft' bid.
In the value index. It's 600pts from this year and another 700 pts next year. Equal to a pick 9 but not the same i know.
Allows us to enter '24 with Bailey Smith Pick 17 Pick 37 (port) Pick 80 & keep our 1st rounder in '24.
Bit of a pipe dream... But hey... we are all here to speculate.

I'd do it in a heartbeat, and I sense the Dogs will too.

We don't generally have two bad years in a row, and they'll want to get ahead of the Croft bid as you mention.

Plus with Smith's mental fragility, I don't think they'll take the risk of keeping him unhappy for another 12 months when they'll likely get less for him.

The midfield needs urgent attention, and this is a 22 year old kid who tore apart a finals series less than 2 years ago. Smith, Holmes, Clark, Bruhn, Knevitt & Conway would set us up for a decade, and he'd be the poster boy for the club in the post Selwood, Danger & Hawkins era.

This draft is low on midfielders, It's not like we're missing out on drafting a Bont/Petracca here.

Furthermore the two that we all seem to want: Sanders & Stevens, are either going to be pre-listed or out of our range. Depending on what we get for Sav, there's a legit possibility for us to pick up Smith AND Stevens.

That's the midfield just about set for a long time, and we can begin to draft talls starting next year.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

North will almost definitely get pick 2 for McKay and that will be a disgrace but the way the system works.

Better not get gifted Sanders on top of that.

Hopefully Harley Reid has some sense and asks for a trade down the highway end of next year so then it'll even out.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Is our top 10 pick too much to give up for Bailey Smith? You’d think Dogs take that deal given he’s a chance to go for much much less at the end of next season

I think it's about right. They'll ask for an extra pick, we'll ask for a pick back. Dunno what happens.

 

[noobermensch]

Hi Guys, I haven't really posted anything on your forum yet but it looks like you're going to end up with a top 10 pick.

I have a ton of footage of all the top prospects, and at least something on most of the deeper guys. Let me know if there's anyone in particular that you'd like to see more of.

A few performances from the tier 1 prospects from the weekend:

 

[Jumping Jack]

Is our top 10 pick too much to give up for Bailey Smith? You’d think Dogs take that deal given he’s a chance to go for much much less at the end of next season

I think both clubs would comfortably mount an argument that it's a good deal.

Beveridge looks like he'll survive as coach - If Smith goes they'll need to appease their supporters and a top 10 pick does that. For Geelong, they pick up a player that can immediately come in and play a significant role, in an area of the ground we will be light on. Parting with a top 10 pick for a player of his undoubted ability, and with his age profile and games played profile is a no brainer.

I think it would come down to Geelong deciding that they want him, and if they do, then I reckon that deal gets done. And the Bulldogs will have their hands tied - player saying he's wanting out - plays the mental health card and says he needs a new environment - coach and player seemingly miles apart.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Hearing the same. Will be here sooner or later.
Scenario maybe coming up is... They either sell at a 20% discount this year or get pennies on the dollar next year.

Didn't work out like that with TK

I think if he doesn't go this year he may outlast Bevo and/or stay getting played more inside like he wants. Then he doesn't leave

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Hi Guys, I haven't really posted anything on your forum yet but it looks like you're going to end up with a top 10 pick.

I have a ton of footage of all the top prospects, and at least something on most of the deeper guys. Let me know if there's anyone in particular that you'd like to see more of.

A few performances from the tier 1 prospects from the weekend:

You are my hero

Mckercher, wizard, Curtin, Sanders sign me up

 

[Mr Meow]

Assuming we rate Smith (which clearly we do if we are apparently in talks) then I'm sure we'd trade our 1st rounder for him if that was the deal offered.

Dogs may try to get more... It all really depends on what the vibes are behind the scenes with him and the dogs.

Do they really really want him or are they happy enough to move him on?

Time will tell... but I'd say that our R1 will just be a pick or two late to snag one of the real top-bracket kids this year so we'd trade it for him imo.

I would not be loving trading more than this years R1 though.

If we do snag Smith IMO we might as well go extra hard at Parish as a FA (maybe even Grundy) and really have another crack at a flag before Hawkins, Danger etc give it away.

Smith, Parish and Guthrie added to the midfield next year with the hopefully natural improvement from Holmes/Bruhn + with a ruck that can actually tap it to their advantage would surely have us as a chance... especially with missing finals and having a good long preseason.

I like your thinking but two mids with Guthrie being the third "recruit" might be overkill unless we really don't want to give Clark or Knevitt (and maybe even Bruhn) a chance at all, or Dangerfield is a 75/25 HFF/mid. But at least in theory we'd have Parish, Smith, Clark, Bruhn, Holmes and Knevitt to build a long term midfield with.

 

[noobermensch]

You are my hero

Mckercher, wizard, Curtin, Sanders sign me up

I have more than 10 videos of each, it would get a bit spammy to post all of them so I'll keep it reasonable.

McKercher first:

 

[noobermensch]

The Wizard:

 

[Jumping Jack]

I think it's about right. They'll ask for an extra pick, we'll ask for a pick back. Dunno what happens.

Pick 7 in the draft a few years back
23 years of age
Already played 100 games

I think it's a pretty simple argument and that profile is where we have a gap on our list. If the club can continue to develop the likes of Bruhn, Knevitt and Clark with Bailey Smith added into that mix, I reckon we'd all be happy.

 

[noobermensch]

Daniel Curtin:

 

[iameviljez]

Is our top 10 pick too much to give up for Bailey Smith? You’d think Dogs take that deal given he’s a chance to go for much much less at the end of next season

On talent and player quality alone, pick 10 or whatever it’ll be after bids is a steal for him.

The main question is going to be his mental durability, and cultural fit.

Doesn’t seem like a bad person or anything like that, just someone who burns himself out pretty hard and doesn’t have great coping mechanisms.

 

[STPer18]

If he did want to come down I'd be happy to see our 1st go for the Full Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

Experience.

 

[noobermensch]

Ryley Sanders:

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Didn't with our like that with TK

I think if he doesn't go this year he may outlast Bevo and/or stay getting played more inside like he wants. Then he doesn't leave

We did.
Not sure it's entirely Bevo TBH.
More to this i suspect/reckon than just a Bevo/where i play scenario.
Were seeds planted awhile ago.
Are we just seeing the tree now??
Mmm..

 

[dont stop me meow]

And left a gaping big crack in our rear end when he missed that chunk of footy


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Wait... You don't have a crack in your rear end? Think I'd better get along to my GP

 

[calder_daddy]

Curtin Please

 

[D BRIDGE]

I like your thinking but two mids with Guthrie being the third "recruit" might be overkill unless we really don't want to give Clark or Knevitt (and maybe even Bruhn) a chance at all, or Dangerfield is a 75/25 HFF/mid. But at least in theory we'd have Parish, Smith, Clark, Bruhn, Holmes and Knevitt to build a long term midfield with.

The reason you build a long-term midfield is to hopefully have a chance at winning a flag with it.

I just want to win flags... Parish and Smith would improve our chances dramatically next year before some guys who can't be replaced are goners.

If that means Bruhn or Knevitt need to take a back seat for a year then I'm all good with it.

 

[Johanpetro]

The reason you build a long-term midfield is to hopefully have a chance at winning a flag with it.

I just want to win flags... Parish and Smith would improve our chances dramatically next year before some guys who can't be replaced are goners.

If that means Bruhn or Knevitt need to take a back seat for a year then I'm all good with it.

I feel like Knevitt can easily play a wing/utility role. Parish and Smith won’t keep him out of a spot

 

[Kobe Gryant]

On talent and player quality alone, pick 10 or whatever it’ll be after bids is a steal for him.

The main question is going to be his mental durability, and cultural fit.

Doesn’t seem like a bad person or anything like that, just someone who burns himself out pretty hard and doesn’t have great coping mechanisms.

It's the old Benny Cousins problem isn't it?

Trains harder than anybody, but you need a release from that, and when that release can't be food or alcohol, it leads to.....you know what.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

If he did want to come down I'd be happy to see our 1st go for the Full Bailey Smith Experience.

Gotta get the boy home!!

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Curtin Please

Not a hope... he'll be right in the Weagles sights at #2

 

[Gee Class Loco]

It's the old Benny Cousins problem isn't it?

Trains harder than anybody, but you need a release from that, and when that release can't be food or alcohol, it leads to.....you know what.

Like my Mrs?? shopping online?? lol

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Not a hope... he'll be right in the Weagles sights at #2

More like Nth at pick 2 compo.