Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thankfully in this situation there’s just no basis to allow them any out here. The salary cap hit was part of the cost they paid to get the pick they received for Grundy. Are they also willing to give up the equivalent of that pick now??

Even an equivalent pick though I think undervalues the cap space. We got puck 7 with Bowes and 1.6m over 2 years owing or thereabouts right?

350k for 4 years would need to be an equivalent at least. Or they sell off piecemeal. Offload a second every year to get the following years cash only off the books

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Pack it up lads, we can rule out Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

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23

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185cm

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86kg

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M/F

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Last 5

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18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

Also Damo, I know you're reading this. You need to find a new format listicle

 

[year of the cat]

It's all about the Grundy contract and the dets on it.

Pretty sure I heard his manager say "Grundy has a separate deal/contract with Collingwood, not 3 parties linked".

Still would need to see the contract to have a 100% view... but I doubt they are getting out of it at all.

I’m not a lawyer, but Grundy would need to be paid the total amount of his contract by someone. That’s not in dispute. Are Collingwood saying they want the opportunity to trade their remaining obligation for a pick/s?

 

[cats_09]

Pack it up lads, we can rule out Bailey Smith

Also Damo, I know you're reading this. You need to find a new format listicle

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JUH it is...

 

[moond0g]

This guy?

Tbf this was just after he unsuccessfully requested a trade out from our club.

Do you expect him to come back from preseason saying ‘oh yeah I hate this and wanted to leave but here we are’?

Of course he was going to say that. Just like Bailey smith has said the same thing about the dogs, yet many here are still hopeful of getting him.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

So... who are we going to end up with?

 

[cats_09]

So... who are we going to end up with?

Cunnington is coming out of retirement and still sign as a DFA after North decide to do the nice thing by him

 

[FootyLad0]

So... who are we going to end up with?

Reckon if we don’t have the guy we want available at our pick we will split.
But that’s just me, hope someone gets desperate and wants to overpay.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

Pack it up lads, we can rule out Bailey Smith

Also Damo, I know you're reading this. You need to find a new format listicle

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Thought this was fake, but it’s not. Smoke!

 

[rocker_oz33]

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R U on nose beers

 

[catempire]

Even an equivalent pick though I think undervalues the cap space. We got puck 7 with Bowes and 1.6m over 2 years owing or thereabouts right?

350k for 4 years would need to be an equivalent at least. Or they sell off piecemeal. Offload a second every year to get the following years cash only off the books

Ideally you’d have a market for it. Who would “buy” (in this case, sell more literally) the cap space for Collingwood.

Bottom line: Collingwood would have to give up something of value to someone else.

 

[D BRIDGE]

In my own head, I think that buying an R1 is/will be around 1 million dollars cap room... Whether that's a mid or late R1 I'm not really sure.

Our Bowes deal was a thing of beauty.

 

[STPer18]

In my own head, I think that buying an R1 is/will be around 1 million dollars cap room... Whether that's a mid or late R1 I'm not really sure.

Our Bowes deal was a thing of beauty.

He took a while to warm into it but I thought by the latter part of the season Bowes started to look pretty good himself. I think there'd be plenty of teams who'd give up the cap space we did for pick 7 as a standalone, let alone a potential best 22 player alongside it. It was great business.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Ideally you’d have a market for it. Who would “buy” (in this case, sell more literally) the cap space for Collingwood.

Bottom line: Collingwood would have to give up something of value to someone else.

Pick 18 and we wipe 300k off for them next year only. Next year we can ask again

 

[gogeelongcats]

Clark is like a new recruit with a huge upside. We have our first-round selection already.

 

[Jumping Jack]

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

story was never going away.

Why? Because anyone with any clout connected to the club knows exactly what the primary focus was a long time ago.

No guarantees with these deals, but make no mistake, if Geelong gets its way Smith will be out of the Bulldogs within weeks.

Stay tuned


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[year of the cat]

Bailey Smith story was never going away.

Why? Because anyone with any clout connected to the club knows exactly what the primary focus was a long time ago.

No guarantees with these deals, but make no mistake, if Geelong gets its way Smith will be out of the Bulldogs within weeks.

Stay tuned


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For the sake of argument, let’s assume that Smith changes his mind and wants to leave. Under contract what sort of deal would it take?

I’m thinking pick 7 plus FF plus F2. A lot to give up. I think that’s too much for one player where our list is right now. If we were likely to challenge then perhaps. But right now I think we should be building our list systematically before throwing all our eggs into the one basket. We still have a number of holes to fill.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Bailey Smith story was never going away.

Why? Because anyone with any clout connected to the club knows exactly what the primary focus was a long time ago.

No guarantees with these deals, but make no mistake, if Geelong gets its way Smith will be out of the Bulldogs within weeks.

Stay tuned

All good to want him... We'd want heaps of good players.

What are we going to offer the Dogs whilst he is contracted to have them make a trade though?

That is my worry... I worry we may overpay for him due to being contracted.

Ahhh time will tell.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I’m thinking pick 7 plus FF plus F2. A lot to give up. I think that’s too much for one player where our list is right now. If we were likely to challenge then perhaps. But right now I think we should be building our list systematically before throwing all our eggs into the one basket. We still have a number of holes to fill.

He isn't Chris Judd.

Hard pass on that deal please.

Dogs would be all over it.

 

[year of the cat]

He isn't Chris Judd.

Hard pass on that deal please.

Dogs would be all over it.

That’s my point. Wait twelve months until he’s out of contract and at least pay something more reasonable.

 

[Shadow89]

That’s my point. Wait twelve months until he’s out of contract and at least pay something more reasonable.

OOC doesn't really mean the same thing anymore. Look at us with Sav and our asking price this year vs last year. Look at TK and Jez either way.

I've no doubt that if it were this year or next year, we'd be giving up a Top 10 pick for him, regardless. Might as well give it up now in an extremely compromised draft, where we might miss out on the 'top end', anyway.

Who knows what'll happen, but we'll definitely make it happen if it's on the table. Don't think we'd give up two firsts and a second - as no player has commanded that in the last decade.

 

[Two Planks]

Geelong officials currently in Adelaide trying to convince Ollie Lord to request a trade to Geelong.

 

[foxdog50]

So... who are we going to end up with?

Our biggest recruit will be Scott Lycett

 

[foxdog50]

Geelong officials currently in Adelaide trying to convince Ollie Lord to request a trade to Geelong.

Source?

 

[STPer18]

Geelong officials currently in Adelaide trying to convince Ollie Lord to request a trade to Geelong.

Caro HATES this.