Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[MacStradbroke]

Pretty sure they're the same height (obviously, minus the decade-worth of muscle growth).

However, Holmes doesn't have Dangerfield's manic attack on the footy, nor his ability overhead. Not a knock on Holmes - Dangerfield's kamikaze courage is up there with Kelly and Selwood, and the only mid-size players I've seen be a better mark are Ablett Sr and Jeremy Howe.

Holmes v Danger summed up perfectly. (We are super lucky to have both)

 

[MisterMarcus]

I'm surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for Foster - Saturday was the first time I've seen him play and for a 19 year old key forward I thought he showed plenty of promise. Some strong grabs, 2 (should have been 3) goals, including a huge roost from outside 50 near the boundary, and my favourite - a great piece of work below his knees in the first quarter, where he trapped a difficult ground ball then picked it up cleanly off his toes on the run and kicked it to a dangerous spot at the top of the goal square. That last play was seriously impressive for such a big lump - surprisingly fluid.

Based on the comments on BigFooty and from the commentators on Saturday, it seems he is very raw and games like this are the norm at this stage i.e. a few impressive moments with minimal impact otherwise.

I'd have to see more from him to have a firm opinion, but based purely on Saturday's performance I think he deserves another year at least to see what he can do. Seems to have enough to work with.

Maybe I just picked a few bad days by fluke, but the few times I saw him live, he seemed to have a lot of Richo-style tantrums at his team-mates when they didn't deliver the ball lace-out on his chest. Lots of shouting and arm-waving and sulky grumpy body language which looked a bit childish and silly. Especially since as a raw and green KPF at this level, I assume some of this 'bad delivery' might have actually been his own fault - not getting into good positions or leading to the right spots, etc.

I remember thinking that sort of stuff might count against him if it was a 50-50 decision on keeping him.

 

[supahoops]

Said before I’ve done a complete 180 on Foster. Still a long shot to getting regular senior football but if anyone can develop him it’s us. Go back 3 years and some of the thoughts on Shannon Neale, this guys a throw at the stumps but 1-2 more years should be a given.

 

[Jemaine]

A lot has happened since then. Not much of it has been positive.

I can think of one thing that came up positive.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Said before I’ve done a complete 180 on Foster. Still a long shot to getting regular senior football but if anyone can develop him it’s us. Go back 3 years and some of the thoughts on Shannon Neale, this guys a throw at the stumps but 1-2 more years should be a given.

Yeah may as well give him ago when we're not hard up for list spots but what I have seen of him looked pretty delistable.

Neale I thought showed a lot more early

 

[bulletproof]

I'm surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for Foster - Saturday was the first time I've seen him play and for a 19 year old key forward I thought he showed plenty of promise. Some strong grabs, 2 (should have been 3) goals, including a huge roost from outside 50 near the boundary, and my favourite - a great piece of work below his knees in the first quarter, where he trapped a difficult ground ball then picked it up cleanly off his toes on the run and kicked it to a dangerous spot at the top of the goal square. That last play was seriously impressive for such a big lump - surprisingly fluid.

Based on the comments on BigFooty and from the commentators on Saturday, it seems he is very raw and games like this are the norm at this stage i.e. a few impressive moments with minimal impact otherwise.

I'd have to see more from him to have a firm opinion, but based purely on Saturday's performance I think he deserves another year at least to see what he can do. Seems to have enough to work with.

Key forward is a tough role in the VFL too. I think seeing Hawkins at that level highlighted to me, it is unrealistic to expect a key forward to dominate like how a young promising midfielder would.

Very messy games. Seems to have got worse over the years, combination of improved defensive systems/professionalism but no improvement in skill level to overcome them at that level?

 

[Jumping Jack]

Would be very surprised if Bulldog's say anything (or Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

) today as Tom Morris hinted at. The club has known for most of this season that the player is most likely out the door - yes, the meeting might confirm it - but I'd doubt anything will be coming from the player.

It's 2 weeks before Geelong plays in a Prelim Final so I think it's unlikely anything formal gets said in that time. If we get beaten in that game then it will go into overdrive and the media will froth.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Would be very surprised if Bulldog's say anything (or Bailey Smith) today as Tom Morris hinted at. The club has known for most of this season that the player is most likely out the door - yes, the meeting might confirm it - but I'd doubt anything will be coming from the player.

It's 2 weeks before Geelong plays in a Prelim Final so I think it's unlikely anything formal gets said in that time. If we get beaten in that game then it will go into overdrive and the media will froth.

Barras and Battle nominated Hawthorn while they were still in the finals.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of statement today - whether that's us or Hawks or 'highest bidder'....

 

[terry_bright]

I'm surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for Foster - Saturday was the first time I've seen him play and for a 19 year old key forward I thought he showed plenty of promise. Some strong grabs, 2 (should have been 3) goals, including a huge roost from outside 50 near the boundary, and my favourite - a great piece of work below his knees in the first quarter, where he trapped a difficult ground ball then picked it up cleanly off his toes on the run and kicked it to a dangerous spot at the top of the goal square. That last play was seriously impressive for such a big lump - surprisingly fluid.

Based on the comments on BigFooty and from the commentators on Saturday, it seems he is very raw and games like this are the norm at this stage i.e. a few impressive moments with minimal impact otherwise.

I'd have to see more from him to have a firm opinion, but based purely on Saturday's performance I think he deserves another year at least to see what he can do. Seems to have enough to work with.

Needs to improve his athleticism if he’s to make it.
He’s slow and lacks acceleration and has the turning circle of the QEII.
He’s a good mark and can roost a ball but that’s not enough to make it in the AFL.
Another thing is when he’s having an ordinary game he’s MIA. Had quite a few games this year where he had 5 possies or less.

 

[Jumping Jack]

Barras and Battle nominated Hawthorn while they were still in the finals.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of statement today - whether that's us or Hawks or 'highest bidder'....

You might be right. I hope it's all quiet on the Bailey Smith front though. He's a "big name" in terms of his profile and social media presence, so we could do without the distraction for a few weeks.

 

[CatRiot]

I'm surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for Foster - Saturday was the first time I've seen him play and for a 19 year old key forward I thought he showed plenty of promise. Some strong grabs, 2 (should have been 3) goals, including a huge roost from outside 50 near the boundary, and my favourite - a great piece of work below his knees in the first quarter, where he trapped a difficult ground ball then picked it up cleanly off his toes on the run and kicked it to a dangerous spot at the top of the goal square. That last play was seriously impressive for such a big lump - surprisingly fluid.

Based on the comments on BigFooty and from the commentators on Saturday, it seems he is very raw and games like this are the norm at this stage i.e. a few impressive moments with minimal impact otherwise.

I'd have to see more from him to have a firm opinion, but based purely on Saturday's performance I think he deserves another year at least to see what he can do. Seems to have enough to work with.

Needs to improve his athleticism if he’s to make it.
He’s slow and lacks acceleration and has the turning circle of the QEII.
He’s a good mark and can roost a ball but that’s not enough to make it in the AFL.
Another thing is when he’s having an ordinary game he’s MIA. Had quite a few games this year where he had 5 possies or less.

He looks like he can turn into a brute size. But it's this, doesn't look like he has any pace or agility, and not sure you can get away with that at AFL level these days.

 

[Bulldogs85]

 

[Boxhead_31]

Wow, did anyone see this coming?

 

[year of the cat]

Well I’m in complete shock. Thought he was a Dog for life…

 

[D BRIDGE]

Whilst this is no surprise... what is Bailey's actual reason for wanting out?

Does he and the club have "issues"?

How bad does the Doggies really want him there?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Well I’m in complete shock. Thought he was a Dog for life…

Yea I am so shocked NOT

 

[STPer18]

We should throw our hat in the ring for him.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Whilst this is no surprise... what is Bailey's actually reason for wanting out?

Wants to play more in the midfield wouldn’t have a clue if club or smith have issues with one other. He did kind of distanced himself from the club this year

 

[D BRIDGE]

Wants to play more in the midfield

So he walks into his meeting today and it goes down like this.


Bailey - I wanna play more midfield.

Bevo - No you are only a flanker.

Bailey - Ok well I'm good to stay but now that you have put a line through me as a mid... I want out.

Bevo - yep cool that's your call... take it or leave it.


Nahhh I don't buy that... there is way more going on for sure.

 

[No Quarter]

I wonder if Geelong would be interested?

 

[Boxhead_31]

We should throw our hat in the ring for him.

Leaving our run at him a bit late aren't we?

 

[Bulldogs85]

So he walks into his meeting today and it goes down like this.


Bailey - I wanna play more midfield.

Bevo - No you are only a flanker.

Bailey - Ok well I'm good to stay but now that you have put a line through me as a mid... I want out.

Bevo - yep cool that's your call... take it or leave it.


Nahhh I don't buy that... there is way more going on for sure.

media have been saying that he wants more midfield time you don’t have to buy into what I say. Just glad it’s over and we can move on from Smith

 

[Hamingja]

Needs to improve his athleticism if he’s to make it.
He’s slow and lacks acceleration and has the turning circle of the QEII.
He’s a good mark and can roost a ball but that’s not enough to make it in the AFL.
Another thing is when he’s having an ordinary game he’s MIA. Had quite a few games this year where he had 5 possies or less.

He has ability for sure but there are not many key forwards like him in the modern game. Casboult the only one maybe and he is a great contested mark which has kept him on a list for as long as he has been. Hard to make it these days if you don't have the athletic ability.

 

[Johanpetro]

With hawthorn obviously not caring about players nominating them right now, I wonder if Baz has already told us he wants to come here but we have told him to hold off saying anything official.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Said before I’ve done a complete 180 on Foster. Still a long shot to getting regular senior football but if anyone can develop him it’s us. Go back 3 years and some of the thoughts on Shannon Neale, this guys a throw at the stumps but 1-2 more years should be a given.

Can he ruck ?