Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[Generalissimo]

“Kill-ee-an”

Like Cillian Murphy, the guy from Peaky Blinders.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Also on the list of things I will never have time to watch

I've been there.

It can happen, you just have to completely f**k your sleep schedule to do it.

Some shows aren't worth that, but BB is.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

“Kill-ee-an”

Makes for some good nicknames.

Gonna have another kid and name him Cillian Kilpatrick

 

[Lingsface]

Who plays more next year

G Stevens or J Clark

 

[My Tilly]

Who plays more next year

G Stevens or J Clark

Stevens won't make it.
Clark is going to be a star. Needs a strong preseason. Add a few kg's to his frame and watch him become the new Jack Viney of the competition.

 

[Lingsface]

Stevens won't make it.
Clark is going to be a star. Needs a strong preseason. Add a few kg's to his frame and watch him become the new Jack Viney of the competition.

Oh really, why the opinion on Stevens?

 

[My Tilly]

Oh really, why the opinion on Stevens?

Just that, it's an opinion.
Knevitt is ahead of him as well. I hope he makes it. Just sense Mullin and Clark are going to make significant inroads as midfielders next year which makes it tough for a few others.

 

[Lingsface]

Just that, it's an opinion.
Knevitt is ahead of him as well. I hope he makes it. Just sense Mullin and Clark are going to make significant inroads as midfielders next year which makes it tough for a few others.

I hope your right on those two, would love Mullin to hit top gear off the half back and mid.

With Bowes progress your probably right with Stevens finding it hard to get a spot.

 

[CatRiot]

It's strange the way the Hardie haters feel the urge to sink the boot in after he's been delisted. Wouldn't it be better just to leave it alone? Hardie was very good at VFL level, 4th in the VFL medal and Geelong's only player in the VFL team of the year. He should be admired for putting in week after week even though he never received the call up to the AFL team. He did make it as an emergency more than once which suggests he was rated by the club.

Hardie was better than Josh Cowan, that's for sure. I didn't think Hardie was terrible. He had a crack and was quite durable, got the pill plenty of times at VFL. Club obviously rated many others ahead of him.

 

[rocker_oz33]

JOEL HAMLING COME ON DOWN

The same Joel Hamling that looked like Matty scarlet at the western bull dogs .
I might of had beer Google's on ....

 

[rocker_oz33]

I hope your right on those two, would love Mullin to hit top gear off the half back and mid.

With Bowes progress your probably right with Stevens finding it hard to get a spot.

Bowes can play a few roles .
I rather he settle in on one role...

Imo I would of played him forward tag on zorko ..

 

[rocker_oz33]

Hardie was better than Josh Cowan, that's for sure. I didn't think Hardie was terrible. He had a crack and was quite durable, got the pill plenty of times at VFL. Club obviously rated many others ahead of him.

Slow podders like Hardie will struggle to get many AFL games.
The game getting faster ...imo.

 

[rocker_oz33]

SDK and COS to go forward. More worried about how much ruck Neale will have to do

Interesting where COS fill play his best footy.

He can shank a kick out of the D 50..
I really hope he makes it ,.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I’ve seen a few reports that all of Duncan, Bews, Guthrie, Stanley and Danger will play on next year. It seems CS is afraid to make the same necessary tough calls he did back in 2010/11.

We're losing Hawkins, Tuohy and Rohan as experienced players. Parfitt is gone as depth. Then turfed a bunch of guys who were just playing VFL and not going to make it.

Need to be careful with how you go about transitioning and re-modelling the list. Can't cut too deep all at once or you can end up in free fall; also need to be mindful not to keep too many old heads around with guaranteed spots in the seniors because that can turn out badly too. The two worst clubs of the last few years - North and WCE - illustrate the outcome of these contrasting approaches. North turfed everyone out at once and have never recovered; WCE left too many of their old stars hanging around and they all fell in a heap at the same time.

I think we could have afforded to part with another of those senior brigade, probably one of Stanley, Bews or Duncan. But we've already lost 4 guys who had been regulars in the side at some time recently (Tuohy, Hawkins, Parfitt and Rohan), so I think that's enough without being drastic. That said, I would expect and hope that most of them play out the majority of next year as VFL/depth players. Danger will obviously go on for a while yet and will be managed through the year. I doubt the club would want to make the call on Cam Guthrie just yet, given he hasn't had a clear run at it for two years, but 2025 will need to be make or break for him.

Stanley is a curious one given he was willing to finish last year, but may be continuing for a second following that call. He was pretty good towards the end of this year, but his body must be near shot to pieces and can't see him running out the year if he can even start it. But him staying onboard is perhaps a reflection of our belief of what rucks are out their for us to acquire during the trade/draft period. I'd still like us to pick up someone else, even if it's just insurance for Stanley and Conway if/when they break down.

 

[Lingsface]

Kolo SDK Mullin
Stewart Henry Zuthrie
Humphries Danger Miers
Mannagh Neale Dempsey
Stengle Cameron Henry

Bilcavs Smith Holmes

Close Bruhn COS Atkins
Sub- Bowes

ideal line up including smith.

Unless COnway is fit, I dont mind sharing between blitz SDK and Neale

 

[jakefooty23]

How many changes of scenery does one need?

I was more meaning get out of the state and his comfort zone

 

[demondavey]

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

will be a big in

 

[Catman]

On Martin, I have no doubts we'd have done our due diligence and had his body assessed. The fact we're considered the leader for his services would suggest we believe we can fix whatever issues have plagued him.

But it's still massive risk - an average of only playing 13 games per season is a huge red flag.

 

[dangerwood]

Oh really, why the opinion on Stevens?

I was as wanting and willing as anyone for bi George to make it but he looks a long way off and didn't improve as the year progressed. Still hoping but confidence is low.

 

[Footy Smarts]

On Martin, I have no doubts we'd have done our due diligence and had his body assessed. The fact we're considered the leader for his services would suggest we believe we can fix whatever issues have plagued him.

But it's still massive risk - an average of only playing 13 games per season is a huge red flag.

He costs nothing except a list spot for next year. If it doesn't work it's no great loss.

 

[BIGANT]

He was in their academy so they know the player at least

Will be interesting where Parf ends up, if no other afl club re-drafts him, his junior club North Adelaide won't hesitate in giving him a call ? Or like some indigenous territorians, head to fnq or to Perth. Not sure he would head back to Darwin.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Kolo SDK Mullin
Stewart Henry Zuthrie
Humphries Danger Miers
Mannagh Neale Dempsey
Stengle Cameron Henry

Bilcavs Smith Holmes

Close Bruhn COS Atkins
Sub- Bowes

ideal line up including smith.

Unless COnway is fit, I dont mind sharing between blitz SDK and Neale

We’re in trouble if we’re playing Blitz in the ruck all year. Good for a pinch hit, but not permanently.

I hope Conway gets a really good run at it, and I suspect Stanley going around again is backup for him. Ideally 6-8 games if only because Conway’s body is not quite ready for a full 25 game season.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Who plays more next year

G Stevens or J Clark

Clark. Stevens will be lucky to get a third year imo

 

[Willo_]

LMFAO.

You go from this:

I'm still struggling to see how people think Neale is a good long term option... That performance in the prelim was one of the worst I have seen from a player.

Hawkins on one leg would have offered more. The bloke can hardly run as well and you murdered in the rebound after the footy hit him in the face instead of his mitts.....

To:

Just my opinion buddy, nothing against the guy just don't think he has what we need.

It wasn't just "your opinion".

Neale wasn't great in the prelim, true, but he competed and was far from our worst. And that was off a 9 mark, 2 goal game against Port in the QF.

I actually think he shows some great signs for a very big man who's just 22yo and played just 20 games. He competes well in the air, he takes marks, he's mobile, and he kicks straight.

Of course that's just an opinion too, so here's some data to back up why he deserved his spot:

In his last 9 games (including the PF), Neale has taken 39 marks and kicked 13 goals.

In Hawkins' last 9 games earlier in the year, he took 23 marks and kicked 6 goals.

Even in that "worst performance you have seen from a player", Neale took more marks than Hawk did in 7 of his last 9 games. He had more disposals than Hawk did in 5 of his last 9 games. He kicked the same number of goals (zero) as Hawk did in 5 of his last 9 games.

And here's another stat for you: Neale has kicked 24 goals in his first 20 games. So what did some other notable key forwards do in their first 20 games?
Hawk: 25
Charlie Curnow: 15
Max King: 25
Ben King: 28
Jack Riewoldt: 19

Seems pretty competitive with some pretty big names, wouldn't you say?

Here's yet another stat: at the same age, Hawk played all 3 of our finals (in 2010). How do you think he went? I'll tell you: he kicked ONE goal, total, in those three games. In the prelim against Collingwood, he had 1 mark, 1 kick, 0 goals. Now THAT is a shit game. And while Hawkins was the same age as Neale at the time (22yo), it was actually his 61st game. So he had a full 2 seasons more actual playing experience than Neale does right now.

But Hawk turned out OK in the end, eh?

I say all this not to criticise Hawkins, but to point out that Neale has actually been travelling much better than Hawkins this year, and just as well if not better than Hawkins (and many other gun key forwards) at a similar career stage. He totally deserved his spot, and is well and truly on track.

You did such a better job of making this point than I did

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Will be interesting where Parf ends up, if no other afl club re-drafts him, his junior club North Adelaide won't hesitate in giving him a call ? Or like some indigenous territorians, head to fnq or to Perth. Not sure he would head back to Darwin.

Yeah I'd think the roosters would be on the phone. He'd smash it up in the SANFL