List Mgmt. Gibbs - 2017 Trade Discussions! V2.0

[spexau]

Club release says " better value deal than last year's offer"

Carlton must have asked for 3 1sts

Different draft years have different valuation. Pick 10 this year is valued differently to pick 10 next year.

 

[Crow54]

Wow, wow, wow. Not happy with giving up picks 10 and 16 at all. Crazy. Let's hope something good comes from it.

 

[Firewalker]

Calmer then I was yesterday with no 2018 1st, this draft’s crap, everyone knows it and the crows list management are just taking it to extremes to reiterate it

 

[Donkey Magoo]

This is a great deal, you all wet the bed over draft picks. All the pundits call 2017 weak and 2018 strong. Next year we have 3 picks inside the top 30

 

[Hollow Knight]

Patently obvious that your recruiters don't rate this particular draft at all.

Really don't think this is a terrible deal for you guys, just will need to view the big picture over two drafts.

 

[GROTTO]

All in for the 2018 flag, and then all in for the 2018 draft?

I like it, but I still think it's pick 12

I wonder if it could be our 2018 1st + Cameron for Lions 2018 1st.

 

[DJ75]

So most likely it looks something like this;

ADE
OUT: Pick 10 (2017), Pick 16 (2017), Pick 30-35 (2018)
IN: Gibbs, Pick 20-25 (2018), Pick 36-40 (2018)

The 4th round picks mean nothing.

So effectively, ONE first round pick, ONE down grade of 4-9 picks (but in a stronger draft so effectively equal i.e. pick 16 2017 = pick 20-25 2018) and one down grade of 1- 5 picks (again stronger draft so actually an upgrade i.e. Pick 36-40 2018 > Pick 30-35 2017).

On the overall basis we are in fact giving up one first round pick. The rest of the deal balances out nicely.

Actually a pretty good deal.

 

[BACCS]

dont have a problem with it. weak draft and we need players now. hawthorn at their peak wouldve done the same. we keep 2 firsts for the better draft and a 2nd rounder that should be low

draft picks are maybe's. gibbs is proven. we need proven

It's funny how everyone says we need to be aggressive at this time of year like the Hawks were in their contending seasons (and they went seasons without first round picks), yet when it actually happens say the future of the club is screwed and we paid too much.

 

[FR0GGY]

10, 16, 35, 73

For

Gibbs, 22, 38,77

It’s really 10 + slight down grade on 2017 first to 2018 second. If draft quality is to be believed 22 in 2018 worth more than 16 in 2017

In effect pick 10 for Gibbs straight up or maybe even a bit less than 10

That doesn’t sound too bad

 

[Modra4PM]

I like the big picture here. We now have 2 first rounders for next year + Carlton 2nd which could be pick 20. We could probably package these up to move in to the top 5 and hopefully get rankine or other elite SA talent for next year. Meanwhile picks 10&16 do nothing for us for years. We want to see galluci, Milera, Hampton, pohoke all get games in to them next season.

 

[Rave Slave]

So let’s look at this, had we done the deal last year:

Lose Galluci and pick 16.

Now we’ve lost 10 & 16 without Gibbs for the 2017 campaign.

No matter what you think of this years trade, that in itself makes it a shocker.

^^^^ Read this.

Justin Reid just got assaulted. Incompetent just like his old man.

 

[Drummond]

Hahahaha what a disgrace. Holy moly we are so inept when it comes to so many aspects.

"In a deal that presents much better value for the Club than what was proposed 12 months ago". Funniest line ever.

 

[chazwazza]

Overs.
Pretty well paying the same as they demanded last year. Unless there’s someone else we’re targeting and need to move on to get other stuff done, (can’t see how this can happen as we’ve sold the farm with this years picks for a father son we should’ve had years ago).
If a Vic club had been dudded by a father son pick the AFL would’ve made sure they wouldn’t have to pay overs later.
Compare this to the Motlop compensation and it’s f***ing laughable.
Pick 10 should never have been on the table.

 

[hey shorty]

Club release says " better value deal than last year's offer"

Carlton must have asked for 3 1sts

It's about the strength of the draft

 

[TrainRoo32]

No we didn't.

Come on mate..... don’t buy the bullshit!
Strong drafts in 2018 wtf do we know? It’s a desperate move, that makes why it wasn’t done last year even more ridiculous!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

So let’s look at this, had we done the deal last year:

Lose Galluci and pick 16.

Now we’ve lost 10 & 16 without Gibbs for the 2017 campaign.

No matter what you think of this years trade, that in itself makes it a shocker.

Yep.

I don't mind us going all in. But if we were going to we should have done it last year. All we did was cost ourselves one year of a good player.

 

[Sanders]

all in!

We’re all in on 2018 draft

We rolled over our end of first round 2017 pick for a 2018 equivalent

We’re betting big on next years draft

If positions stay same we’ll have 10,17,22,38 in 2018 draft

 

[Coopers]

mmm. I don't think it's a great deal.

Essentially 2 1st rounders for Gibbs + a 3rd rounder (+ Some minor pick position adjustments which are fairly irrelavent).

It's too much.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I wonder if it could be our 2018 1st + Cameron for Lions 2018 1st.

It's a possibility

One thing's for certain now, though - Cameron's on the move

 

[beartoo]

FMD, two 1sts for Gibbs? Hope CFC play to their usual level next year and that 2nd becomes a high 2nd in a strong draft.

 

[BACCS]

they should be sending us that without getting ours back

That is just nitpicking, it's still 3 picks inside the top 25 for 2018.

 

[GROTTO]

So let’s look at this, had we done the deal last year:

Lose Galluci and pick 16.

Now we’ve lost 10 & 16 without Gibbs for the 2017 campaign.

No matter what you think of this years trade, that in itself makes it a shocker.

Not to mention that Gibbs plays in the 2017 Grand Final and H&A season.

 

[absolutezero]

It's all about the 2018 draft for all you melters.

 

[Gets!]

Exactly. Club gets slammed for being conservative. This is a ballsy move and I applaud them for it.

Absolutely mate.

We have SIGNIFICANTLY improved our midfield by trading out picks in a weak draft - while strengthening our position in the 2018 super draft.

We have 2 first rounders next year, potentially a pick in the 19-23 range - so three in the top 25 in a super draft.

Our recruiting staff aren't stupid, if there were 2 guns we could get at 10 and 16 this year, they would have plead their case to the board not to do the deal.

Well done AFC.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

So most likely it looks something like this;

ADE
OUT: Pick 10 (2017), Pick 16 (2017), Pick 30-35 (2018)
IN: Gibbs, Pick 20-25 (2018), Pick 36-40 (2018)

The 4th round picks mean nothing.

So effectively, ONE first round pick, ONE down grade of 4-9 picks (but in a stronger draft so effectively equal i.e. pick 16 2017 = pick 20-25 2018) and one down grade of 1- 5 picks (again stronger draft so actually an upgrade i.e. Pick 36-40 2018 > Pick 30-35 2017).

On the overall basis we are in fact giving up one first round pick. The rest of the deal balances out nicely.

Actually a pretty good deal.

I'm quoting this so that more people read it. While the Sky is falling.