Review Grand Final, 2023 - Collingwood vs. Brisbane Lions

[ice444]

Hipwood minus 3.9 in the champion data rankings.

Pretty fair - he had a shocker, needs to learn to mark it or at least bat it towards his own player…

 

[mattsmob]

Can raynor is not a big game player. He is good, and best 22 worthy but Dom fay is right - Bailey is a superstar.

Rayner has had plenty of huge moments in big games, a few where hes's been in the top couple on ground as well

 

[3KZ is Football]

These player ratings are very accurate.

AFL grand final player ratings: Brisbane's Berry, Rayner and Hipwood struggle | Sporting News Australia

Brisbane went down by four points to Collingwood in the AFL grand final and had several players not perform anywhere near their capabilities.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[jumbojet]

Pretty fair - he had a shocker, needs to learn to mark it or at least bat it towards his own player…

Not up to it today

 

[ice444]

The one good thing out of this hopefully is that we are more hungry and come back stronger next year..

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

I know it doesn't help but nothing but respect for Brisbane. I grew up watching the great lions team of Voss etc al and those gf losses really stung. Just because they were so good lions always been my fave other team. You guys could have snagged it there. You'll be there about for the next few years.

Thanks mate
Was at the game
Down to the last minute so total respect here as well
The day was fun
Someone wins and we lost
Enjoy

 

[LionKing]

Hipwood minus 3.9 in the champion data rankings.

Ouch

He was so frustrating today

 

[3KZ is Football]

This is on the money also.

McCluggage 8/10 in Lions' Grand Final heartbreak

Hugh McCluggage and Joe Daniher stepped up for the Lions, but Jarrod Berry and Eric Hipwood struggled in the 2023 AFL Grand Final. Here are the Lions' player ratings.

www.espn.com.au

 

[Ceebee]

Anyone seen photos of Lachie after the game ?
An absolutely shattered man , heartbreaking to see him and the other players .

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Anyone seen photos of Lachie after the game ?
An absolutely shattered man , heartbreaking to see him and the other players .

 

[moncon]

Hipwood minus 3.9 in the champion data rankings.

Ouch

I noticed that as the team was leaving the rooms he didn't touch the boxing gloves...

 

[dlanod]

Gotta say I feel for the mods tonight. I see so many posts popping up and then disappearing.

I do appreciate the great work you have done for us too

I accept payment in rum.

Hey I've still had pies fan sending me crap messages in a conversation. I've pot him on ignore but the messages are getting through.

How can I completely block him?

Not sure, I thought that would do it. Maybe check with the admins.

Better team won, but geez it’s hard to cop Victorian teams whinging about fixture inequality (who plays wce etc twice) when the grand final is so stacked against any non Victorian side. For those keeping score that’s 2 wins from the past 12 times a non vic team has faced a vic team in the gf.

The breakdown of the crowd being 75% Collingwood despite the 50/50 alleged nature of finals makes it a real joke. We only had a 60/40 advantage tops at a real home game. Give the AFL members to the clubs!

 

[ice444]

Anyone seen photos of Lachie after the game ?
An absolutely shattered man , heartbreaking to see him and the other players .

The whole team were shattered - and they would be, to get so close… I hope this doesn’t effect us negatively - although history suggests teams who lose gf by low margins come back better in the future.

 

[JasRulz63]

Reflecting on the game further, the other thing that killed us was contested marks down the line, especially by players you wouldn't expect to take a contested mark (e.g. Crisp). It meant that we couldn't lock the ball inside 50 and lean on our turnover game.

 

[dlanod]

The magpies fans around me at the game and after the game have all been so nice. It’s a bit unsettling

I've had some ****wits hassling me as I walked down Brunswick St so that was fun.

 

[RU_]

We need another ruck to help out Oscar. Is Grundy on the market now since Melbourne won’t use him?

 

[dlanod]

Geez in a 4 point loss and out of 6 players we have 1.Collingwood have 4 of them who are midfielders. Think that tells the story.

It doesn't tell much, five points the other way and the judges would have just switched all those ones and twos to Lions.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Hipwood minus 3.9 in the champion data rankings.

Ouch

The same champion data rankings that said the brownlow medallist was the 241st best player in the AFL?

 

[Dodongo]

Dodongo's report card

Robertson - E
Daniher - A+
Ah Chee - F
Dunkley - B
McCluggagge - B
Berry - F
Neale - C
McCarthy - B
Zorko - E
Rayner - F
Lyons - A (fact is he had a better game than a few players in only half a quarter)
Coleman - A
Cameron - B
McKenna - E
Gardiner - E
Fletcher - E
Hipwood - F F
Andrews - B
Bailey - A
Lester - E
Starcevich - F
Wilmott - F
McInerney - E

 

[western royboy]

We need another ruck to help out Oscar. Is Grundy on the market now since Melbourne won’t use him?

Can we afford him? I don’t think he’s going cheaply and he’s not going to play second fiddle or up forward - Fort had a role to play today

 

[dlanod]

We need another ruck to help out Oscar. Is Grundy on the market now since Melbourne won’t use him?

Heading to Sydney by most accounts

 

[AFLQLD]

Development is rarely linear.

I honestly think Rayner is still a year off his best, when consistent performance becomes the norm. He has played some big moments this year and a couple of big games. Never say never with a player who is still 23. Go back two years and De Goey was really no better than Rayner is now, big moments and a few big games. De Goey just got hyped a lot more because of the club he played for and the fact he was a human headline.

Development is unpredictable for so many players. I look at players like Lohmann, Tunstill, Sharp. They may look a long way off…until they aren’t. I would say Kiddy is the same. Last year he was “developing” and showed signs. This year he has established himself. Next year he may well go to another level again. I think Hipwood probably had his best season, maybe with more to come. Wilmott certainly developed and next year may well go to another level. Or he may not, the next step may take a while longer.

It is very easy to assume that a player is stuck at a level but coaches are working with them every week and they are working on themselves. Development is different for every player.

Some bloom early, and gradually improve in increments from there. Some jump to a new level and then seem to make little progress for a while, then jump again. Some players develop late and are then stars. Sadly some never develop enough at all.

If it was easy to pick how a player will develop, drafting would be the simplest thing to do and a 100% guarantee every time.

 

[wirra44]

The magpies fans around me at the game and after the game have all been so nice. It’s a bit unsettling

There obviously there gonna be nice they’ve just won the premiership

 

[Nathan Barley]

Interesting that the forward line was supposed to be the Magpies weakness yet they generated 30 shots at goal

5 rushed behinds

 

[western royboy]

It doesn't tell much, five points the other way and the judges would have just switched all those ones and twos to Lions.