Toast "Hammer" Close to signing a new 3 year deal at the Blues!

[Blue and Silver]

Are you serious??? He has no-where near the upside of Warnock or Kreuzer!! I think you have a bad case of what you hope for clouding your reality. I'd rather see him traded, but as a 3rd ruck option (that's all he'll ever be here) he's OK I guess.

In a physical sense Hampson is a much better specimen then either Warnock or Kreuzer. He is quicker, jumps higher and has greater upper body strength then the other two.

What he lacks is footy smarts. But if he gets a hold of his marking he could be a real force at FF

 

[Silvagnis]

Are you serious??? He has no-where near the upside of Warnock or Kreuzer!! I think you have a bad case of what you hope for clouding your reality. I'd rather see him traded, but as a 3rd ruck option (that's all he'll ever be here) he's OK I guess.

Hampson was our number one ruck against Leuenberger and Clark this year.

Warnock played incredibly well on Sunday, yet he didn't exactly smash Madden and Nicholls on his lonesome. Warnock and Hampson took the points against Ryder and Hille last year. I like the Hampson and Kreuzer set up because they're a better pairing than Warnock and Kreuzer. The bigger units are more prepared than Warnock to chase down players, go in hard and push forward using their mobility.

Jacobs, Hampson, Warnock and Kreuzer have all been injured at one stage or another. We'll need two and a fall back option in the event of injuries. The main issue is the compensation that we'll receive if Hampson leaves. It might work out well, but our window is now, so we don't need more picks.

 

[BlueTongue]

In a physical sense Hampson is a much better specimen then either Warnock or Kreuzer. He is quicker, jumps higher and has greater upper body strength then the other two.

What he lacks is footy smarts. But if he gets a hold of his marking he could be a real force at FF

I could not agree more. For all of his physical attributes, he just doesn't have the footy brain. This is why there's not a lot of improvement going to be found in him. He is already the 'perfect physical speciman' but he is always going to struggle to be first to the ball. I'd actually prefer him to stay as a permanent forward because he can take a grab and is an OK set shot from around 35-40.

 

[dumb]

will be pretty miffed if he left 'for more opportunity' when he spent how long injured? his early form wasn't exactly flash so he could count himself lucky he got that. still think that people will be even more bitter than grigg leaving if he were to walk out at this stage, seeing as we've stuck by him even though at various times he's looked pretty unco.

 

[Silvagnis]

will be pretty miffed if he left 'for more opportunity' when he spent how long injured? his early form wasn't exactly flash so he could count himself lucky he got that. still think that people will be even more bitter than grigg leaving if he were to walk out at this stage, seeing as we've stuck by him even though at various times he's looked pretty unco.

Hampson is more capable of winning the tap and getting the ball than taking a pick mark to convert. Ruckwork is an art, but arguably it's easier to teach than reading the play, using your body and positioning yourself as a forward. When he's gone back to the VFL this year, he's racked up twenty touches, twenty hitouts and kicked at least two goals.

I'd argue that former basketballers such as Kreuzer, Goldstein and Tippett workout as better marking options than former soccer players such as Hampson. They appear to be more adept at jumping off one leg to mark the ball at the highest point. You need that sort of timing in basketball where you have to cut forward, jump and catch bullet passes overhead to score.

 

[Mister Carlton]

I was quite impressed with how Hampson was playing his footy before he was injured. We would be stupid to trade him.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

Hope we keep Hampson unless something special came up in return that would help our overall KPP structure.

Without a doubt Warnock showed he is ahead of Hampson by some way last weekend. Hampson has never played that dominant a game...ever.

The Warnock v Hampson debate is dead!

 

[Pafloyul]

Hope we keep Hampson unless something special came up in return that would help our overall KPP structure.

Without a doubt Warnock showed he is ahead of Hampson by some way last weekend. Hampson has never played that dominant a game...ever.

The Warnock v Hampson debate is dead!

Boring! Where's your spirit.

Regardless; you would think that Warnock played the best game by a ruckman ever if he is "ahead of Hampson by some way" and yet Hampson remains virtually untouchable. It depends on what you'd call "special", either Hampson is being groomed for something or he's trade-able, either way is fine by me.

 

[sweetchoif]

In a physical sense Hampson is a much better specimen then either Warnock or Kreuzer. He is quicker, jumps higher and has greater upper body strength then the other two.

What he lacks is footy smarts. But if he gets a hold of his marking he could be a real force at FF

Similar words were echoed for Ian Prendergast. Until we see an ability to consistently take marks (contested or uncontested) and better football smarts, he is clearly 3rd ruckman. Being tall and athletic is only one of many characteristics that makes a quality footballer

 

[BlueTongue]

With all due respect J, I think Kreuzer's shown more as a forward than Hampson has......at senior level at least.

I agree that Hampson could be a very difficult proposition as a forward/ruck, but he needs to start turning that potential into actual performances in the seniors.


I agree. I wouldn't want him to go, but I didn't want Jacobs to go either, and the way things are shaping up I think most teams will look to have one permanent ruck, and another that can play forward ruck.

Warnock plays first ruck and will be a monster in a couple of years.

Kreuzer has to play. Not sure Hampson gets in ahead of either. So he would be looking for Setanta or Waites spot. He'll be trying to take the spot of a genuine forward uch as Henderson, maybe Mitchell or Casboult.......maybe Thornton.

I get the age thing, but how lets presume these guys have another couple of years in them. Do we reasonably expect Shaun to wait another 2 years to get that senior spot, hoping that some young buck doesn't come along in the meantime and take it?

I just think, not unlike Jacobs, he is good enough to play first ruck at Port or Richmond, probably GWS and maybe even Bulldogs with Hudson gone.

Is he worth more to us as a depth player, and can we reasonably expect him to be happy with it? Or do we look to secure a trade when he should have some decent currency.

That's clearly the issue with him re-signing. If he wants to be in the 22 then he's not going to get a lot of opportunity with us. If he's happy to sign-on as a 3rd option, then he's clearly resigned himself to the fact that that is all he worth. I think he's better than a 3rd option, but he's not in the same caliber as the other 2. He's probably worth more to us as a trade.

 

[KennyHunter9]

Still don't see why Hammer can't be our second best ruckman, and play alongside Kreuzer for the next 8 years.

The gap between Hammer and Warnock ebbs and flows. When both were fit, Hammer had moved ahead of Warnock. Warnock has edged in front know, but who knows how we will feel about this after Saturday's game if both play.

 

[Malifice]

I reckon he's goneski.

And im not happy Jan.

 

[The_Wookie]

I think his manager wants him to go

theres plenty of evidence to suggest the Blues want him as a forward more than a ruckman. Hopefully thats what they are telling him. If he feels he's behind Kreuzer and Warnock for a ruck spot he's as good as gone.

 

[Beloved]

Question - why would we want to trade him?

Three ruckmen minus one ruckman equals two ruckmen. End of story.

 

[The_Wookie]

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hampsons 6.1 v North Ballarat in the VFL

 

[Beloved]

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hampsons 6.1 v North Ballarat in the VFL

Jeez, that 41 looks good.

 

[Pklz]

The club wouldn't see Hampson as a forward, they know how much potential he has as a ruckman.

Fact is he has been limited to the forward line since returning from his knee injury. I haven't seen Sundays game but I saw he had 18 hitouts. Which is great because up until last week he hasn't played a minute in the ruck since his return.

Really hope he stays because I honestly believe he could be the best ruckman in the league one day.

 

[Franc de Borges]

The fact is that he is number three in line for two spots.

Not a great position to be in for him personally.

I'd be shattered if we lost him though as last year we had four ruckmen and now it could be down to two. A major injury and we're in strife there.

Hopefully he gets to play in a final this week and feels a bigger part of it. We need to keep him.

 

[The_Wookie]

The club wouldn't see Hampson as a forward, they know how much potential he has as a ruckman.

Fact is he has been limited to the forward line since returning from his knee injury. I haven't seen Sundays game but I saw he had 18 hitouts. Which is great because up until last week he hasn't played a minute in the ruck since his return.

Really hope he stays because I honestly believe he could be the best ruckman in the league one day.

If you'd seen the game you'd have also seen he spent close on 75% of the match forward. There is absolutely no doubt the Blues see him as one of the answers to the KPF roles.

 

[choo]

I understand Hammer re signed on the weekend.
I have been told by a very strong source close to the board and am trying to verify from another source but I am 99%

 

[The_Wookie]

I understand Hammer re signed on the weekend.
I have been told by a very strong source close to the board and am trying to verify from another source but I am 99%

can i have your babies?

 

[Stubba1]

I understand Hammer re signed on the weekend.
I have been told by a very strong source close to the board and am trying to verify from another source but I am 99%

Choo, fantastic news. Please God make it happen

 

[Pklz]

If you'd seen the game you'd have also seen he spent close on 75% of the match forward. There is absolutely no doubt the Blues see him as one of the answers to the KPF roles.

I've been to every other match of his for the Bullants since he returned from injury. His time spent in the forward line since his return is more a reflection on him getting match fit again and also gaining confidence in his knee before moving back in to the ruck.

Although Kreuzers ACL was a much more serious injury to Hampsons we also saw Kreuzer spend quite a bit of time in the forward line for the Ants before getting some time in the ruck.

 

[The_Wookie]

Oh then you've also overlooked how much time he spent forward in the navy/powder blue this year.

 

[Wickzki]

I understand Hammer re signed on the weekend.
I have been told by a very strong source close to the board and am trying to verify from another source but I am 99%

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It's Hammer Time!