Toast How can this Melbourne side be stopped?

[YeoGabbaGabba]

Careful Pie boy.

You might be reading something similar tonight!

That’s true. However they came from 17th when Melbourne were 10-0 coming off a flag and on a 17 game win streak

 

[Gavin Excell]

Their dynasty was short but sweet

It’s not over yet
They would be one of few teams in flag contention next year

 

[Johnny Karate]

I honestly think they got arrogant. Listening to Goody in pressers talking about taking things up a level and warning other teams, reminded me of Malthouse.
I think they thought they could waltz in and take the flag.

Along similar lines, I wonder how much the players actually got angry after a loss? It’s getting into nuffy psychology areas but I don’t think it’s out of the realms of possibility that the players thought: “oh well, we were in that game, we just have to do x, y and z better and we’ll be right next time…” Truly ruthless sides hate losing and don’t just shrug it off, they go out and fix it through actions.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

I honestly think they got arrogant. Listening to Goody in pressers talking about taking things up a level and warning other teams, reminded me of Malthouse.
I think they thought they could waltz in and take the flag.

they got extremely arrogant

 

[WillHayward]

The Demons "era" was very short lived.

Shit crowd and out in straight shits.

Fickle fans have already jumped off.

 

[kickazz]

Wont be getting a lot of sympathy from non-Victorians with that point.

Or Vic club members who have missed oit GF tickets because if the predominantly Melbourne MCC.

 

[WillHayward]

2023

Bring in Grundy and play Van Rooyen fwd every week.

 

[Scythe94]

Could possibly be my favorite thread on bigfooty

Why? It was started last year as a troll by a Bravedogs fan, then we went on to win the flag. Served its purpose well lol

 

[markm106]

Let’s face it back to back is rare. Back to back off a premiership drought is bloody difficult.

 

[markm106]

Why? It was started last year as a troll by a Bravedogs fan, then we went on to win the flag. Served its purpose well lol

People too often forget this.

 

[Coolangatta]

I thought even though Burgess left that the new guys in charge were confident of keeping them in top nick for another tilt.

Pretty sure Melbourne was the best last quarter team this season but not this time. Thought they were saving themselves to go hammer and tong in September. Apparently not.

 

[Helix]

haha, I tried my best. a tough loss to swallow for us dees fans tonight. Mostly coz it was against Brisbane who let's be honest, are one of the worst teams in the 8. But on any given day anything can happen. we didn't capitalise and we allowed 4 goals in the last 30 seconds before the siren. Makes for a boring as hell prelim.

Hard to justify. Brisbane beat Richmond, Brisbane beat Melbourne. By definition, we are top 6 right now. Our best is clearly top class, we score heavily. Good looking footy, fans love to watch us. Melbourne got lucky with Brisbane twice in the home and away, Brisbane's only losses for the year above 14 points. Against all other teams, Brisbane has more wins than Melbourne. Melbourne on the other hand, no where near it after round 10.

Melbourne are playing exactly like where they are at, I see no improvement coming. They just can't score. Good midfield, good backilne, crap forward line.

 

[danster168]

Hard to justify. Brisbane beat Richmond, Brisbane beat Melbourne. By definition, we are top 6 right now. Our best is clearly top class, we score heavily. Good looking footy, fans love to watch us. Melbourne got lucky with Brisbane twice in the home and away, Brisbane's only losses for the year above 14 points. Against all other teams, Brisbane has more wins than Melbourne. Melbourne on the other hand, no where near it after round 10.

Melbourne are playing exactly like where they are at, I see no improvement coming. They just can't score. Good midfield, good backilne, crap forward line.

Well I do agree that our forward line is a shambles but it's the same forward line as last year. We're just out of form and banged up. We had by far the hardest fixture coming home I think we played all the top 8 teams in the last 8 rounds or something.

 

[gouki88]

Well I do agree that our forward line is a shambles but it's the same forward line as last year. We're just out of form and banged up. We had by far the hardest fixture coming home I think we played all the top 8 teams in the last 8 rounds or something.

Except for your centre-half forward

 

[danster168]

Except for your centre-half forward

oh Tom McDonald. yeah, but he's not all that much chop.

We just need to find a replacement for Ben Brown asap though. He's a 3 goal disadvantage in most games he plays.

 

[La Dispute]

Reckon they’ll drop out of contention for a year or two and be back competing for flags as they restructure their forward line, get games into JVR, maybe trade or grab another KPF through FA.

Oliver and Petracca are still fairly young and will be in their prime for 3-4 years. If the Dees grab Grundy he assumes the mantle of first ruck when Gawn retires.

This season was closer to their baseline IMO. In 2021 almost everything went right for them and leveraged a fairly weak Grand Final opponent. Quite a few clubs overtook them this year and the Dees are going to have to get better again. A side like Sydney, for eg, is still ascending and could jag a flag as early as this year.

Being humbled is the best for the club in the long run. The players really did think they were all that and a bag of potatoes (some are potatoes) and it showed in their engagement with the media at times.

 

[Stupidthegreat]

They would have won if they brought Jake Bowey

 

[GastevsBeard]

Put Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

in this side and they go from contenders to likely dynasty

 

[danster168]

They aren’t trying to blow teams off the park. Coaches have said as much. Just win.

This is after round 7. This '2nd gear' mentality was embarrassing by anyone that held this view. I called it out at the time. When we almost lost to Gold Coast, Essendon, Hawthorn as well as losing the 2nd half to Port (who were bottom 4 at the time) and failing to kick goals against a west coast team with 12 rings ins, dees fans should have been rioting in the streets demanding answers of our form. Instead I was the only one 'being negative'.

Hopefully next season we respect the opposition more and play 120 minutes of football. Hopefully we demand elite performances with a list that should be producing better than what they did.

 

[Defabs]

Except that it was the fourth highest non-Grand Final crowd for a game involving Brisbane, ever.

There have only been 8 finals Brisbane have played away away from the Gabba and excluding the GFs. Brisbane Geelong was 56k in 2004 but the capacity 25k less due to construction of northern stands.
That stat isn’t all that impressive

 

[Toump Ass]

Pretty sure Melbourne was the best last quarter team this season but not this time.

Pretty sure we were leading in the third quarter in all but one of home and away losses this year. Even our wins we've been fading out badly all year, so I'm pretty sure this isn't true.

 

[Catsace]

This is after round 7. This '2nd gear' mentality was embarrassing by anyone that held this view. I called it out at the time. When we almost lost to Gold Coast, Essendon, Hawthorn as well as losing the 2nd half to Port (who were bottom 4 at the time) and failing to kick goals against a west coast team with 12 rings ins, dees fans should have been rioting in the streets demanding answers of our form. Instead I was the only one 'being negative'.

Hopefully next season we respect the opposition more and play 120 minutes of football. Hopefully we demand elite performances with a list that should be producing better than what they did.


I agree 100% with this contention. Also the Nth game, the Dees really should have taken the view that it was some payback for North's staggering success against Melbourne over the previous 15 years or so...did the Roos have a 17-game winning streak or something, even up to 2017? With the Dees in pristine fettle they should have spiflicated them, like Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood circa 2010-11 did. Instead they rolled the arm over and had a lazy 45-ish point with kicking a few goals in the last. Similar with West Coast.

Just felt that they lacked the real desire to be a truly great side, Geelong in 2008 (aside from the Pies game and the GF) basically smashed every side they played. In 2011 Geelong beat the Dees and Suns by 150+ points in successive weeks. Real stamps on the competition to show their power. Yes the Dees did that with withering wins in the PF and GF, indeed as a Cats fan the PF loss was as bad a defeat I'd seen insofar as how impotent we looked. But to subside from a 10-0 start to a 16-8 straight set finish was a disappointing end to the season. St.Kilda started 10-0 in 2004 and wound up a 17-8 side losing the PF narrowly to Port. Geelong went from 11-1 in 2019 to get Dustied in the PF and also wound up a 17-8 side.

Have to say though, Gawn was a long way behind his goalscoring and imperious form late last year. he was a man possessed in the Finals, kicked 5 in the PF and kicked a few to start the year, but in the end just kicked 2 in the last 10 games this season. Ben Brown similarly kicked 32 goals in 13 games during the Dee's streak, but just 15 goals in his last 13 games this season. He played his role, won his side a Flag but if he reverts to the North Brown of his last couple of seasons there he's probably not going to be good enough.

Still the midfield core is supremely talented and prime aged, May and Lever are defensive dynamos, Gawn a great ruckman and there's no reason they can't get back to the top echelon next season. But being a top side means being all in and consistent, maybe the 17-win streak got them a little complacent and it was hard to get back to last year's amazing form.

 

[Toump Ass]

Listening to Goody in pressers talking about taking things up a level and warning other teams, reminded me of Malthouse.

I don't recall him doing this once. "Respect the game, respect the opposition" is one of his favourite catchphrases.
Maybe the players were a bit arrogant. Dunno why really, we were belted a few times this year.

 

[Toump Ass]

Very sure I heard or saw something quoted. Saying we werent even at full capacity so other sides should be worried. May have been after the Port game in Alice

I doubt that very much. He's often referred to as "RoboGoody" on our board for reason.

That's not to say he didn't get a little arrogant. He certainly backed in our "method" when the game seemed to be changing, and might have been a little bit stubborn with sticking with his favourite players (although they all more-or-less won a flag the year before, so you could maybe understand it).

 

[katana]

Being humbled is the best for the club in the long run. The players really did think they were all that and a bag of potatoes (some are potatoes) and it showed in their engagement with the media at times.

man you post some banal tripe. melbourne crushed everyone they played in last year's finals, no fluke or relevant luck to it.