If you could ask one question to the Swans (recruiter/ coach etc), what would it be?

[Corpuscles]

and the one thing i will take you to task over, corpuscles, is that of finals not being the place for kids
i'd have thought it was also definitely NOT the place for older players carrying, or just coming back from, serious ongoing injuries (leo, hall, crouch) ... leo and crouch were both exposed frequently in our finals loss to c'wood
it's hypothetical, of course, to say whether young blokes would've done better or worse
but leo, crouch, bevan and mathews were pretty poor in that game, and hall was ordinary all season

Not trying to be arrogant but have you played senior footy and finals?
It is common even in amateurs to patch up and play experience in finals even if carrying injury

In 2005.. Here it is! there were at least 4 carrying serious injury requiring immediate surgery. It is very very very common that teams will play experience and patch up broken bodies to get them through finals.

remember 96 lockett groin was stuck together with tape and pain killers, and Kelly had a shoulder virtually requiring reco!

But you were right 2007 was a mess not only BBBH and Leapin leo's critical injury but the rule changes took them by surprise and no time to tweak the gameplan. I reckon coaches were struggling all year to make running repairs on a gameplan that relied on BBBH too much and therefore were reluctant to throw kids into such a dire defensive patch up plan.

Yes many played badly... I haven't watched that game again..... the writing was on the wall they had to wood on us for years and Swans never really hit their straps in 2007 but still a few unlucky one kick games away from top 4 spot!!!!

 

[rancidpants13]

how much you typed and the suspected spontaneity of it all would surely have resulted in crippling arthritis, or a couple of fractures, at least..

at the risk of sounding cruel and twisted, finally another space opens up for younger players to break into the side.
didn't come out too sick and twisted, did it?

i type a lot.....usually without thinking abut it in advance, which i'm sure shows

 

[rancidpants13]

Not trying to be arrogant but have you played senior footy and finals?
It is common even in amateurs to patch up and play experience in finals even if carrying injury

In 2005.. Here it is! there were at least 4 carrying serious injury requiring immediate surgery. It is very very very common that teams will play experience and patch up broken bodies to get them through finals.

remember 96 lockett groin was stuck together with tape and pain killers, and Kelly had a shoulder virtually requiring reco!

But you were right 2007 was a mess not only BBBH and Leapin leo's critical injury but the rule changes took them by surprise and no time to tweak the gameplan. I reckon coaches were struggling all year to make running repairs on a gameplan that relied on BBBH too much and therefore were reluctant to throw kids into such a dire defensive patch up plan.

Yes many played badly... I haven't watched that game again..... the writing was on the wall they had to wood on us for years and Swans never really hit their straps in 2007 but still a few unlucky one kick games away from top 4 spot!!!!

i've played footy and finals footy....at a very low level, but yes, i have
i played with blokes who went for a smoke at quarter-time, that's the level and indicates they were closer to death than anything like full fitness
while i know about patching up, etc, i also know that you're talking about 05 and 07 and we were patching up the same players in a coupla cases
which is an indicatation that it can be done, obviously, but you can't keep literally flogging a dead horse
even the best players (eg chris judd) are eventually going to reach breaking point
as far as i saw it, leo and crouchy had reached that point last season, and we had as much to lose playing them as not playing them in the 07 finals

 

[bedford]

liz,if you look through my posts,i myself have never ever refered to the swans receptionist,who i happen to know.
i have had conversations with people about her apparent bad attitude towards melbourne based swans.
you are entitled to your opinions as much as any other posters,so i apoligise if you have been offended in any way.

 

[natlovestheswans]

I'm still angry that Crouch played those last 3 games. I know it probably wouldn't have made any difference at all if he hadn't played but it still annoyed me. It all seemed too much like he was apart of the favourites and they wanted him to get to 200 and whatever else.

Another thing that really annoyed me was that fact that they put Leo back on the field in the forward line during the Eagles game after he did his hamstring. It didn't make any sense. Leo is old, why risk making it worse? I know that he kicked a goal but it wasn't worth it. I can imagine that it only made it that little bit harder for Leo to recover.

So yuh, i guess i'd like to know about those two things.

 

[Corpuscles]

i've played footy and finals footy....at a very low level, but yes, i have
i played with blokes who went for a smoke at quarter-time, that's the level and indicates they were closer to death than anything like full fitness
while i know about patching up, etc, i also know that you're talking about 05 and 07 and we were patching up the same players in a coupla cases
which is an indicatation that it can be done, obviously, but you can't keep literally flogging a dead horse
even the best players (eg chris judd) are eventually going to reach breaking point
as far as i saw it, leo and crouchy had reached that point last season, and we had as much to lose playing them as not playing them in the 07 finals

Fair enough! Good onya

withou having a go at ben matthews who i think did a great job in cutting out top liners or at least taking them eg Del santo & Peter Bell & others he destroyed but was also asked to play on Ablett etc etc etc

He will be struggling to hold a spot in 2008

As will Crouchy, Bevo, & Mcveigh would be on his last chance, maybe others.... but not time to throw in the ACTFL premiers just yet!

Too hard on Leo .... without LRT he just has to do, the best he can for as long as he can, until they find a new FB!

 

[rancidpants13]

Fair enough! Good onya

withou having a go at ben matthews who i think did a great job in cutting out top liners or at least taking them eg Del santo & Peter Bell & others he destroyed but was also asked to play on Ablett etc etc etc

He will be struggling to hold a spot in 2008

As will Crouchy, Bevo, & Mcveigh would be on his last chance, maybe others.... but not time to throw in the ACTFL premiers just yet!

Too hard on Leo .... without LRT he just has to do, the best he can for as long as he can, until they find a new FB!

i hope, in fact predict, LRT will be one of our stars this year and beyond
he's still learning the game
and he has a huge heart
leo is a liability as a key defender, move him to the flank or pocket so he can run a bit but not be taking key forwards, as brave as he's been he's no longer quick enough and has never been big enough
mcveigh's had his chances, someone else deserves a shot
mathews and crouch are near the end
bevan's skills and decision-making have never improved

 

[nico]

Question: If Bolton was seriously put up for trade was there a genuine interest and if so why didn't we off load him for even a stale crumpet for what he is not even worth.

People talk about the under performers of 2007: this bloke by his own admission was unfit and under prepared and they gave him a PAY RISE, go figure.

He is touted as a hard nut midfielder but rarely gets 20 possessions a game: a serious endictment on any midfielder. No wonder our forwards are starved of quality ball. Give our forwards enough ammunition and they will finish the job so we shouldn't be bagging them until our midfield delivers serious stuff.

 

[rancidpants13]

Question: If Bolton was seriously put up for trade was there a genuine interest and if so why didn't we off load him for even a stale crumpet for what he is not even worth.

People talk about the under performers of 2007: this bloke by his own admission was unfit and under prepared and they gave him a PAY RISE, go figure.

He is touted as a hard nut midfielder but rarely gets 20 possessions a game: a serious endictment on any midfielder. No wonder our forwards are starved of quality ball. Give our forwards enough ammunition and they will finish the job so we shouldn't be bagging them until our midfield delivers serious stuff.

as i think has been pointed out by others last year, our midfield rotation policy means not many players will regularly get over 20 possessions
but there's no doubt you're right, bolton's standards (and numbers) dropped right away in 07 and he has a lot to do to redeem himself

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

Apologies for sidetracking the thread with baseless innuendo and upsetting people.

For unrelated reasons I'll be indisposed and off line for a couple of days at least

Unless anyone else wants to summarise the questions into a list, then I'll try and do so when I return.

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

What follows is a quick list of the questions asked on this thread;


I would like to know what it was that the coaches saw in the "chosen one" Craig Bird, that prompted him to be given the sacred number?

Why has the club persisted with jarryd mcveigh in the senior team for so much longer than so many other young players in the past 2 seasons?

Why was he (jarryd mcveigh) drafted? Surely Salopek would have been a better option?

Why was heath grundy played as a defender so often when he was selected in the seniors last season, when he had shown so much potential as a marking forward in 2006?

"Why have you developed an interest in recruiting small to medium defenders, midfielders and forwards?"

I'd like to know why we recruit so many midfielder type players when we need some bigger,stronger players for these skilled midfielders to deliver the ball to

OK, now Roosy, what happened to our fast moving keep the ball going forward 2003/4 game plan?

In round 22 last season we played a young fast team on their own preferd game plan, it was argueably the best game of the year for us, why was it next week we reverted to negative slow football?

With a FWD line consisting of stars, why is that particually last season our mids kept kicking the ball to Hall when he was not only underdone but also out numberd?

Why has our club chosen to play our reserves (mostly younger draftees) in the Canberra league rather than the stronger VFL?

My question will be: "Why isn't Kirk a stand-alone captain?"

Why did we look over rance in the draft?
isn't he exactly what we need

What is it about Collingwood that brings the worst out of our players?

why did you play mcveigh against collingwood when monty could have played.
three times we played them with the same game plan

I’ve always wanted to know how you get a job at the administrative area of the club

My question. If Ben Matthews is really as good as a tagger that the coaching staff seem to value him as, why doesn't he take on the opposition best midfielder every game, instead of the third/fourth best midfielder?

Another thing that really annoyed me was that fact that they put Leo back on the field in the forward line during the Eagles game after he did his hamstring. It didn't make any sense. Leo is old, why risk making it worse?

Question: If Bolton was seriously put up for trade was there a genuine interest and if so why didn't we off load him for even a stale crumpet for what he is not even worth.

Have I missed any questions and would anyone like to add to the list?

 

[Sanecow]

Uh, yes.

 

[is2SWaNz]

Haha! I love this list! One question though, how are you going to give these questions to him??

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

Much to my embarrassment I have it from an extremely reputable individual that there has been no "club insider" posting on this site.

Hence both more questions and suggestions on how we can present this list are most welcome either by this thread or by private PM.

It is quite plausible that even if the questions were to get answered, that they would be done so in an unelaborative "straight bat" manner

 

[ssfc0203]

You could send it to the club, but they'd probably just send you a shoddy 'Thank You for Your Concern, We Appreciate It' kind of letter/email.

 

[snappy]

Much to my embarrassment I have it from an extremely reputable individual that there has been no "club insider" posting on this site.

Hence both more questions and suggestions on how we can present this list are most welcome either by this thread or by private PM.

It is quite plausible that even if the questions were to get answered, that they would be done so in an unelaborative "straight bat" manner

We could ask the cheer squad members to make a banner with the questions on it..

 

[Gun Barrel Straight]

What is it about Collingwood that brings the worst out of our players?

Our game plan. We should really be mixing it up against Collingwood. We persist with the chipping and running it out of the backline when it is clear we are playing straight into Collingwood's hands playing that way.

And i really don't know why Roos doesn't do anything different but persists with something that hasn't worked with the l;ast 4 matches we've played against them.

 

[is2SWaNz]

Is anyone going to any of the CLUBSwans functions later tonight? Or next week? We can give it to them then.

We were in luck earlier in the week because Paul Roos was there to answer all our questions.

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

Dear is2SWaNz I would be extremely happy if you were to take this role on and duly anoint you to undertake this task if you are willing to do so.


3 cheers for is2SWaNz

 

[is2SWaNz]

I'll be willing to do it, I'll be in the city on Tuesday. So hopefully I can just pop in and give the questions to the players and pass it along to Roosy. I'll probably attach my e-mail or something so he can send me all the answers. But this isn't a promise... I can't guarantee any of you guys that I'll have the time to attend the function. I'll do my best.

Edit: If the function starts at 5:30PM, I don't think I'll be allowed to go.. its too late for me. (Yes, I have a curfew on me )

 

[natlovestheswans]

I'll be willing to do it, I'll be in the city on Tuesday. So hopefully I can just pop in and give the questions to the players and pass it along to Roosy. I'll probably attach my e-mail or something so he can send me all the answers. But this isn't a promise... I can't guarantee any of you guys that I'll have the time to attend the function. I'll do my best.

Edit: If the function starts at 5:30PM, I don't think I'll be allowed to go.. its too late for me. (Yes, I have a curfew on me )

Haha, i just saw on the Swans website that both Beanie and LRT will be there on Tuesday. Shame you might not be able to go!

 

[is2SWaNz]

^ I know!!! Its saddening.

But on a better note, Cheer Squad mbr might be attending the function tonight. He says he'll try and ask some of the questions...

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

5.30 curfew, you must be a married man.

Wait until you have to start running kids around everywhere.

Myself I've only just got in from taking one over the other side of town to play basketball


With regard to the questions, regardless of whether you succeed or not, 3 cheers for intention and effort

 

[The King!]

id mainly ask about rance, why was he overlooked.

 

[is2SWaNz]

5.30 curfew, you must be a married man.

Wait until you have to start running kids around everywhere.

Myself I've only just got in from taking one over the other side of town to play basketball


With regard to the questions, regardless of whether you succeed or not, 3 cheers for intention and effort

I, a married man? Lol!!!

No, its a 17 year old girl studying at uni.