Play Nice Is it time to replace Woodside as sponsor?

Is it time to replace Woodside as sponsor?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 18.2%
  • No

    Votes: 130 81.8%

  • Total voters
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Humans are the problem.
Under population? So no need for any more housing, clearing land?? Fishing bans a thing of the past?? We are consuming more than ever.
It took over 2 million years for the human population to reach 1 billion then in the last 200 or so years it jumped to 7 billion, it is not sustainable.
300,000 for homo sapiens
 

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Flying over Singapore last night made me realize wa gets all it's fuel from there now we b.p. have shut down their Kwinana refinery.
That includes jet fuel, av gas and bitumen..
Well done Western Australians..
😅

This is the part that green activists refuse to understand. Stop producing here and we will pay for it from elsewhere. Biden and the left can stop drilling etc but will just purchase from nations who produce it dirtier and treat labour poorly while doing so.

Until there is an alternative we will use oil and gas. The demand will stay the same or only increase. So while these fools pat themselves on the back for tacking our jobs away in the name of climate, they are making the problem worse as it is being mined in other countries under worse conditions for workers and the environment. Well done.
 
Isn't this just whether we want Woodside as a sponsor?

Not sure how you'd compete in a national comp IF fossil fuel was a no go zone.

Refuse membership on the basis of your employment, next ?

Would Tim Wintons use of fossil fuels to promote his international success be acceptable?
 
Replace Woodside??

Corporate Sports Australia has done more damage to the Fremantle Football Club than any sponsors that has sponsored the club. Boycott them.

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Thanks woodside for having the balls to have a go instead of us relying on multi-nationals to rape out resources to feather their nests in London and Shanghai.

Maybe those *******s Greenpeace can sponsor us instead of wasting all that hard earned donation money on clogging up my Facebook page asking for more donation's..I'm sure their CEO had earned his 5 million dollar bonus for the year 😂
Woodside is a multi-national, stock is now listed on London and New York stock exchanges.

Flying over Singapore last night made me realize wa gets all it's fuel from there now we b.p. have shut down their Kwinana refinery.
That includes jet fuel, av gas and bitumen..
Well done Western Australians..
😅
The Kwinana refinery was shut down by BP because it was no longer profitable.
 
This is the part that green activists refuse to understand. Stop producing here and we will pay for it from elsewhere. Biden and the left can stop drilling etc but will just purchase from nations who produce it dirtier and treat labour poorly while doing so.

Until there is an alternative we will use oil and gas. The demand will stay the same or only increase. So while these fools pat themselves on the back for tacking our jobs away in the name of climate, they are making the problem worse as it is being mined in other countries under worse conditions for workers and the environment. Well done.
I'm sure you have some actual examples to demonstrate your point, like examples where the companies aren't just using 'the greenies' as cover to cut jobs.
 
nah thats solved already.
everybody apart from africa and parts of the middle east have a declining population due to birth rate.

china and india alone account for close to 40% of the world population.
china had its one child policy which means they will lose half of their population by the end of the century.
India recently passed population replacement rate. it will decline further likely to quite low rates. if you are already at replacement rates before you urbanize (which crushes birth rates) become majority educated which crushes birth rates. not talking about their very well educated professional class which is a minority. before women get more control and say in their lives which crushes birth rates.

rest of asia is at or below replacement rates. latin america is below replacement rates. so is north america. europe is, we are.
Solved?
Personally, if what you've just typed in is accurate, then I'd have several questions pop into my head in about 30 seconds flat.
Think about demographics, age ratios, population centres, economics, and overall what that little scenario you've just put in there means for Australia... and the rest of the Western world, come to think of it.

Besides which, China did indeed have a one child policy - until they figured out that it was not good for their economy. Now, it's back up to three, with government encouragements to breed.
Their population is not going to halve by the end of the century, it'll stabilise in maybe two generations... with younger people.

Think about the long term and how that scenario will play out, both socially and economically.
 
All of that doesn't even begin to address the rather odd (in my view) conception of social responsibility underpinning the various accusations of hypocrisy, among other criticisms of the letter. But I usually prefer not to engage in online argument, it almost always amounting to little more than a war of attrition. No one who has already expressed a conviction on this issue will be swayed by anything I write here. Tim Winton writing an open letter to an audience with no prior opinion, on the other hand ...
Tim Winton's Cloudstreet is a contender for the worst book ever written, yes why should we care what he thinks?
 

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I'm sure you have some actual examples to demonstrate your point, like examples where the companies aren't just using 'the greenies' as cover to cut jobs.

I am not sure what you are asking..

Are you saying that there are no examples of activists and far left govs shutting down mining or limiting it?
 
Solved?
Personally, if what you've just typed in is accurate, then I'd have several questions pop into my head in about 30 seconds flat.
Think about demographics, age ratios, population centres, economics, and overall what that little scenario you've just put in there means for Australia... and the rest of the Western world, come to think of it.

Besides which, China did indeed have a one child policy - until they figured out that it was not good for their economy. Now, it's back up to three, with government encouragements to breed.
Their population is not going to halve by the end of the century, it'll stabilise in maybe two generations... with younger people.

Think about the long term and how that scenario will play out, both socially and economically.

So what are you saying exactly?

We know that in western countries, most are below replacement rate. Go from there please.
 
Flying over Singapore last night made me realize wa gets all it's fuel from there now we b.p. have shut down their Kwinana refinery.
That includes jet fuel, av gas and bitumen..
Well done Western Australians..
😅
Was very hard for BP to compete with the refineries throughout south east Asia however there is an argument that we needed to retain a level of crude oil production and refining capacity at the very least for our national fuel security.

I believe there are only 2 refineries left in Australia with those being strong armed into winding down their operations by this obsession with converting to "green" wind/solar alternatives before they exist.

On that basis I can understand federal government support should have been provided to ensure some of these refineries keep running to refine a level of our own crude oil production particularly as the likelihood for net zero by 2050 without nuclear is highly unlikely.

As the world's instability increases, supply chains are further disrupted, and countries adjust to the new deglobalised world Australia has some very important decisions to make.
 
A group of high-profile Fremantle Dockers members has joined the demands for an end to fossil fuel sponsorship of sporting clubs, calling on their team to cut its ties with oil and gas giant Woodside.

Any move to enforce a ban could restrict the advertising of fossil fuel company Woodside Energy, the main sponsor of the Fremantle Dockers, at Fremantle Oval.

Following the shift around Australia:

Test captain Pat Cummins fronted Cricket Australia’s chief executive Nick Hockley with ethical objections to Alinta’s contract with the Australian team before the energy company and governing body agreed to end a deal worth almost $40 million.

Gas giant Santos has ended its nearly three decade sponsorship of the popular Darwin Festival, following a lengthy campaign by environmentalists and traditional owners opposed to fossil fuels and fracking.

Perth Festival and US fossil fuel giant Chevron will be parting ways after a decades long partnership agreement has been scrapped from mid-2023. Perth Festival and Chevron to split after decades long partnership

Reckon we just round up the nimby's and and lob them a few hacky sacks.

This woke bullshit needs to stop, Woodside adds alot to this state, to this country.

We demonise the industry that gives us our quality of life at our own peril. Might be time to **** off Carmen.
 
Reckon we just round up the nimby's and and lob them a few hacky sacks.

This woke bullshit needs to stop, Woodside adds alot to this state, to this country.

We demonise the industry that gives us our quality of life at our own peril. Might be time to * off Carmen.
Carmen wants to get get rid of Natural Gas, Anastasia wants to get rid of Coal both major revenue earners for their respective States. Tells you what to expect from Left Wing Socialist Greenies.
 
Replace Woodside??

Corporate Sports Australia has done more damage to the Fremantle Football Club than any sponsors that has sponsored the club. Boycott them.

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I've never understood how this hasn't been addressed by the club - huge conflict of interest.
 
Not sure how you'd compete in a national comp IF fossil fuel was a no go zone.

Refuse membership on the basis of your employment, next ?

Would Tim Wintons use of fossil fuels to promote his international success be acceptable?
It shows how hard it is to effect change from an individual perspective and how hooked in we are to fossil fuels.

Change is necessary (inevitable really), urgent and needs to happen at a corporate and government level. Individual level is not going to come close to being adequate

Woodside is one of Australia's biggest greenhouse gas emitters. They also promote (either directly or indirectly) misinformation aimed at disrupting genuine efforts to deal with climate change (which they've made billions from) effectively.

Sending a message to them ain't a bad thing.

They'll go on existing and thriving for a while yet...with fingers well and truly inserted into the political system. It's weighted in their favour.
 
The Trumpisters are out in force this afternoon.
Ahhhh, was actually waiting for the “Trump” card to be played in this thread and it eventually has.

The card played by people who have lost the ability to present their case/argument and be able to substantiate with facts. It’s the new “I know you are but what am I” retort…
 
It shows how hard it is to effect change from an individual perspective and how hooked in we are to fossil fuels.

Change is necessary (inevitable really), urgent and needs to happen at a corporate and government level. Individual level is not going to come close to being adequate

Woodside is one of Australia's biggest greenhouse gas emitters. They also promote (either directly or indirectly) misinformation aimed at disrupting genuine efforts to deal with climate change (which they've made billions from) effectively.

Sending a message to them ain't a bad thing.

They'll go on existing and thriving for a while yet...with fingers well and truly inserted into the political system. It's weighted in their favour.
Think globally, act locally unless its inconvenient ...
 

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