...'alternate explanation' like a phantom sprinkler head or an invisible pitch invader with a box-cutter??
What other likely explanations are there?
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What other likely explanations are there?
Are boot studders in the lock down or did the Afl deem them not worthy of sending to the hubs?
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Misleading photo that first glance looks like all metal studs but if you look at those slanted moulded pieces they have the same reflection making them look metal too.
Probably some swap outs really hard to tell. It’s not an illegal boot as it’s a standard screw in boot the illegal part might be in the stops themselves do they come like that issued from Nike or do you have to buy a bag of metal stops.
Could be a deliberate choice for better grip into the turf so no intent but if purposely swapped out that’s negligence.
No matter which way you look at it we have a freak accident as they are not likely worn to harm others. But it requires an unfortunate after the fact adjustment going forward of a system of inspection by umps or team sheet declaration of property standards checked before entering the ground.
feel we will have a process update on uniform management and care as a result of this. Shutting the gate after the bull has run.
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golf shoes are completely different. running sports (including cricket) have almost nail like spikes at the heels and blade shapes at the toes. if they were metal they would absolutely cut someone like that.
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I don’t think Wicks wore them knowing they were illegal, it was an accident and these things happen.
They do clearly look like the ones where stops are swapped in/out depending on conditions. Again, just one of those things.
Whatever the case they contributed to a serious injury.
But if the bull was wearing banned stops and the bull's stops were the cause of a serious injury to another player, then the bull should be held accountable for his actions.
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Due to the photos mainly, all over here and social media people are implying he was wearing bare metal studs.
Is this actually the case? Or are we looking at plastic studs they may be white or silver?
Is this actually the case? Or are we looking at plastic studs they may be white or silver?
****, your keyboard must be IP69k rated for the amount of dribble you coat it in.
Speaking of invested though, busy day on Bigfooty champ? You've put in an admirable body of work in this thread.
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Thats what im saying. None of the football specific ones I found online looked remotely like those used in other sports. The footy boots all appeared too dull to slice that deep and cleanly. If the wound was more of a tear my mind could make the link more easily.
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No doubt, but our grounds are generally less wet due to not watering them directly before a game (which is very common) like soccer leagues. We really don't need metal studs in the AFL.
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Any cut that is of a significant size on a shin is going to split like that though with how taut the skin is around the bone, it's not going to 'tear'. You get one of those studs on the right angle & velocity it will slice even if it appears 'dull'
He glued them in upside down!
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Good point. Guess I can cross forensic investigator off my possible career paths
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What a load of bull you are talking
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I'm sure he's hit a sprinkler. On the video he jolts while sliding but its too fast for my eyes to see where Wicks boot is at that point.
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Quite frankly I don’t think you can rule out them being worn knowing they are illegal. Proving that is near on impossible.
like you I don’t think he did do it knowing they were illegal but yes they have caused a pretty serious injury with potential to be worse.
the AFL can’t Shrug their shoulders there must be a change or a firmer system of checks so this can’t happen again or they open themselves up for allowing an unsafe environment.
I truly hope he recovers with limited fuss and no infection complications.
The Sydney Swans have been in contact with the AFL following an incident in last night’s game that resulted in an injury to Magpie Isaac Quaynor.
The injury is believed to have resulted from a freak accident that involved contact with the boots of Sydney Swans debutant Sam Wicks. It remains unclear which part of the boot made contact with Quaynor’s leg.
The Swans can confirm that the boots Wicks was wearing were standard issue screw in boots, that have a hybrid soleplate which includes plastic and aluminium stops.
These boots are understood to be widely worn by players across the competition.
Following discussions with the AFL it has become clear that these boots are not compliant with AFL regulations.
The Sydney Swans will take steps to rectify this immediately to ensure that all boots are compliant going forward.
The club has been in contact with Collingwood to express its regret for the incident and concern for Isaac, whom we wish a speedy recovery.
www.sydneyswans.com.au
The injury is believed to have resulted from a freak accident that involved contact with the boots of Sydney Swans debutant Sam Wicks. It remains unclear which part of the boot made contact with Quaynor’s leg.
The Swans can confirm that the boots Wicks was wearing were standard issue screw in boots, that have a hybrid soleplate which includes plastic and aluminium stops.
These boots are understood to be widely worn by players across the competition.
Following discussions with the AFL it has become clear that these boots are not compliant with AFL regulations.
The Sydney Swans will take steps to rectify this immediately to ensure that all boots are compliant going forward.
The club has been in contact with Collingwood to express its regret for the incident and concern for Isaac, whom we wish a speedy recovery.
Sydney Swans Statement
The Sydney Swans have been in contact with the AFL following an incident in last night’s game that resulted in an injury to Magpie Isaac Quaynor.
Yepp. Checked for any sharp edges. Run the hand flat over the studs and you can feel any damage...usually caused by being on concrete before game.
Plastic screw ins can cut as easily as metal if damaged.
My grandfather once showed me an old pair of his boots he still had and they had hellishly long wooden screw ins with the metal nail/screw head visible at tip. Evil looking things. I imagine they were checked religiously.
The sheer rarity of an issue though hardly warrants any major kneejerk reaction. Unless its something new that has crept in re boots, i do hope they dont over-analyse it and force unnecessary new pregame protocols. Despite the penchant for allocating blame in society these days, freakish blameless accidents do actually happen.
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The Sydney Swans have been in contact with the AFL following an incident in last night’s game that resulted in an injury to Magpie Isaac Quaynor.
The injury is believed to have resulted from a freak accident that involved contact with the boots of Sydney Swans debutant Sam Wicks. It remains unclear which part of the boot made contact with Quaynor’s leg.
The Swans can confirm that the boots Wicks was wearing were standard issue screw in boots, that have a hybrid soleplate which includes plastic and aluminium stops.
These boots are understood to be widely worn by players across the competition.
Following discussions with the AFL it has become clear that these boots are not compliant with AFL regulations.
The Sydney Swans will take steps to rectify this immediately to ensure that all boots are compliant going forward.
The club has been in contact with Collingwood to express its regret for the incident and concern for Isaac, whom we wish a speedy recovery.
Sydney Swans Statement
The Sydney Swans have been in contact with the AFL following an incident in last night’s game that resulted in an injury to Magpie Isaac Quaynor.
Can we stop with the sprinkler talk now?
Does anyone even know if the ground has a built in sprinkler system?? Id think after Rough's injury at Olympic Stadium a few years back the ground inspections are taken very seriously.
Injury happened. Was looked in to. All clubs will now ensure the boots comply.
And sympathy goes to a kid who had been playing some good football. Hopefully a speedy recovery with no muscle damage or lingering effects.
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I just re-watched the press conference, what exactly did he say that you didn’t like?
He could`ve said it was a terrible accident and there should be an investigation,im sure he named wicks and illegal boots.
That is just my personal take on it if you disagree fair enough mate.
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Not saying I disagree with you, just curious as to what he said that you didn’t like. He was fairly measured and actually used the term accident.
More so people hear that Buckley has commented on the issue in a press conference without actually having heard/watched it themselves.
Swans not fined, but the next transgressor will be fined $40k. Now where have we heard that before?
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