Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

[Geelong_Sicko]

I was reading the news this morning and a thought came into my head that maybe there is a firey and vengeful god, dealing out justice.

I wouldn't venture down that path, myself. Australia's been a willing cohort in more than a few examples of belligerent U.S foreign policy decisions but to view Ash Wednesday (1983, South Australia, Victoria) Black Saturday (2009, Victoria) or Black Summer (2019-20, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, Australian Capital Territory, South Australia) as some sort of 'divine punishment' is, even going beyond the debate over the existence of the 'divine' in and of itself, a bit shit.

Nobody of consequence is ever harmed by these events, only ordinary folk and the wildlife that call the bush home. If The Divine can throw lightning bolts at will why do the guilty escape harm continuously?

And THEN you get to this kind of social commentary

US pastor, who believes floods are God's punishment, flees flooded home

Tony Perkins and his family escapes the Louisiana floods in a canoe after huge natural disaster.

www.bbc.com

Yeah nah. F*ck that for a game of soldiers.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I wouldn't venture down that path, myself. Australia's been a willing cohort in more than a few examples of belligerent U.S foreign policy decisions but to view Ash Wednesday (1983, South Australia, Victoria) Black Saturday (2009, Victoria) or Black Summer (2019-20, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, Australian Capital Territory, South Australia) as some sort of 'divine punishment' is, even going beyond the debate over the existence of the 'divine' in and of itself, a bit shit.

Nobody of consequence is ever harmed by these events, only ordinary folk and the wildlife that call the bush home. If The Divine can throw lightning bolts at will why do the guilty escape harm continuously?

And THEN you get to this kind of social commentary

US pastor, who believes floods are God's punishment, flees flooded home

Tony Perkins and his family escapes the Louisiana floods in a canoe after huge natural disaster.

www.bbc.com

Yeah nah. F*ck that for a game of soldiers.

kind of reminds me of the Priest getting hit by lighting in Caddyshack.

 

[Markfs]

I wouldn't venture down that path, myself. Australia's been a willing cohort in more than a few examples of belligerent U.S foreign policy decisions but to view Ash Wednesday (1983, South Australia, Victoria) Black Saturday (2009, Victoria) or Black Summer (2019-20, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, Australian Capital Territory, South Australia) as some sort of 'divine punishment' is, even going beyond the debate over the existence of the 'divine' in and of itself, a bit shit.

Nobody of consequence is ever harmed by these events, only ordinary folk and the wildlife that call the bush home. If The Divine can throw lightning bolts at will why do the guilty escape harm continuously?

And THEN you get to this kind of social commentary

US pastor, who believes floods are God's punishment, flees flooded home

Tony Perkins and his family escapes the Louisiana floods in a canoe after huge natural disaster.

www.bbc.com

Yeah nah. F*ck that for a game of soldiers.

i'm an atheist so I'm making other people's illogical connections. It was just a thought about god repaying good and bad deeds.... isnt that how religious people think?

 

[Markfs]

What did the Oils say?

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/benjamin-netanyahu-blamed-anthony-albanese-for-abhorrent-acts-of-antisemitism-in-australia/video/07b0354bfc7cfceb01fd9f01b1fb547f

In fact, it wasn't the Oil who said it first....here's a spoiler alert

Who said it? ‘Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees’

A Tweet from Tim Fargo reminded me of a collection of leadership quotes I put together years ago, and of the digging I did on one particular quote urging action rather than capitulation: That was t…

timpanogos.blog

 

[SaintsSeptember]

What did the Oils say?

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/global-affairs/benjamin-netanyahu-blamed-anthony-albanese-for-abhorrent-acts-of-antisemitism-in-australia/video/07b0354bfc7cfceb01fd9f01b1fb547f

In fact, it wasn't the Oil who said it first....here's a spoiler alert

Who said it? ‘Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees’

A Tweet from Tim Fargo reminded me of a collection of leadership quotes I put together years ago, and of the digging I did on one particular quote urging action rather than capitulation: That was t…

timpanogos.blog

The headline i'd like to see now is...
Australian spokesperson says that Anthony Albanese blames Benjamiin Netanyahu for "The abhorhant acts...all of them except anti-semitism "

 

[Markfs]

The headline i'd like to see now is...
Australian spokesperson says that Anthony Albanese blames Benjamiin Netanyahu for "The abhorhant acts...all of them except anti-semitism "

I watched the sky story until that israeli spokesman came on. I couldnt go any further. I'm too ashamed. Are we that desperate for money? Maybe it's more sinister. Has there been threats concerning phones? It wouldnt surprise me. I'm remembering that line tossed out every anzac day about men on gallipoli fighting for freedom..and i have close relations who were there that morning.

I'm not fussed by what the murderer said. It's that my representative is crawling on his stomach for forgiveness.

 

[Markfs]

Ireland doesnt appear to need to crawl in the gutter...

Ireland Submits Declaration to Join South Africa’s ICJ ‘Genocide’ Case Against Israel

Ireland Challenges ‘Genocide’ Definition: Ireland formally intervened on January 7 in South Africa’s “genocide” case against Israel at the International Court of Justice...

www.fdd.org

and dont be fooled by another fake organisation set up by the usual suspects

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Seriously... A bit of graffiti vs thousands of dead people. Priority Benjy.

 

[Not Important]

the one positive of the maga-fication of that god-forsaken joint is that it might decimate it. these zionist supporting fruitcakes are making the shithole a laughing stock. and that applies to the 45 dems who voted in favour. you are the reason your party is in opposition.

larry boorstein the voice of reason.

 

[Not Important]

francesca is a gem. and will be on the right side of history.



as is the jewish voice for peace.

 

[Markfs]

Brian Mast is an israeli. He wore his IDF uniform to Congress

 

[Not Important]

so depressing that journalism is in the state it’s in.

 

[Markfs]

francesca is a gem. and will be on the right side of history.

tell that to the father holding his headless baby in gaza....

 

[Saint]

the one positive of the maga-fication of that god-forsaken joint is that it might decimate it. these zionist supporting fruitcakes are making the shithole a laughing stock. and that applies to the 45 dems who voted in favour. you are the reason your party is in opposition.

larry boorstein the voice of reason.

To be fair. The issue of Israel/Palestine isn't going to make a difference to 98% of Congressional seats' voters.

But if you support Israel, you get big $$ to support your re-election.

Money is the winner in US politics. More than anything now, nothing else even comes close.

The parties align with donors, not voters.

Support for Israel is well-funded. Support for Palestine will get your opponent funded.

It's all out in the open.

AIPAC spent more on Congressional contests this year than any organisation has ever donated.

If you're a career politician, or given up your job to run for Congress and a person offers you $100k for some issue none of the voters care about, you're taking the money 9/10 times. And the other 10% are losing.

Congress people only make $174k per annum. They need these lobby groups to make it financially worthwhile to run.

 

[Markfs]

To be fair. The issue of Israel/Palestine isn't going to make a difference to 98% of Congressional seats' voters.

But if you support Israel, you get big $$ to support your re-election.

Money is the winner in US politics. More than anything now, nothing else even comes close.

The parties align with donors, not voters.

Support for Israel is well-funded. Support for Palestine will get your opponent funded.

It's all out in the open.

AIPAC spent more on Congressional contests this year than any organisation has ever donated.

If you're a career politician, or given up your job to run for Congress and a person offers you $100k for some issue none of the voters care about, you're taking the money 9/10 times. And the other 10% are losing.

Congress people only make $174k per annum. They need these lobby groups to make it financially worthwhile to run.

well they can use insider-trading to supplement their income..... most of them do that.

however, that wont be possible if you dont get into congress, and AIPAC is the front door.

Times of Israel wrote "
AIPAC says it spent $53 million to support 361 pro-Israel candidates from both sides of the political aisle, while helping to defeat 24 anti-Israel candidates. It has recently begun targeting Sanders for his attempts to block arms sales to Israel."

 

[Markfs]

another graffiti attack....Minns and Albo trying to outdo each other.

I know this will be an immensely unpopular statement to the whatsapp people taking notes in this forum, but I think the people in charge are stimulating these graffiti episodes. But what does the antisem czar suggest? She wants
1. A survey of australian gentiles
2. Tighter hate legislation
3. Propaganda in schools
4. Take control of Unis
5. Participation by jews in gentile society.

Segal lays out antisemitism road map

The government's antisemitism envoy, Gillian Segal, has outlined an ambitious plan of action by her office to combat antisemitism.

www.australianjewishnews.com

1. The survey is probably a method to direct the propaganda assault....or to find out whether there's an underlying problem. I dont think most australians even care about the kids being murdered in gaza.
2. I think we know what is wanted from tighter legislation...such as in the new york legislation.
3. As for schools, it's up to parents to find out about and debug what their kids are being programmed, although I'm reluctant to see further programming.
4. As for Unis, you can see why they want to do it. It's the same reason their mates are bombing schools and unis in gaza - decapitate the intellectuals.
5. The last one is curious. If anyone outted themselves as jewish at a community bbq and then sought to justify the current carnage, I'd be happy to engage. The czar obviously wants people on the ground to do the work currently being done by the lobby. I dont like your chances, Ms Czar.

My suggestion - The west bank solution

 

[Markfs]

It just dawned on me that penny wong is the foreign minister but she isnt going to israel to placate those in charge. People might argue that the israeli foreign minister was reportedly yelling at her a few weeks back, and albo doesnt want to bait the lions.

But I think she might be gone ....professionally. She done....finito... contrast her situation with anthony blinken who was popping into jerusalem on a regular basis. Penny just doesnt cut the mustard.

Now we could move mark dreyfus but he'll be needed to oversee the changes to the antisemitism legislation. So I have a couple of suggestions.

Josh Burns. Say no more. With years of experience, he's almost too qualified for the position.
Mike Freelander. Not a standout candidate but I really think he could do a good job.
Michael Danby. What a shame this excellent candidate has left parliament. He has shown a proven capacity to deal with Australia's most important allies. Maybe we can convince penny to leave parliament to get him back