News Izak Rankine, Gold coast holding Rankine to Ransom- #FreeIzak

[Scorpus]

Mod note:

Opposition posters making outlandish trade suggestions to bait the Crows board will be considered trolls and dealt with in the usual manner

No one wants a repeat of the Gibbs thread

 

[crow2crow]

He never said pick 5 by itself

said it’s a nice pick

to me inferring he wants to get something back

i think we give future 3 rd and we get a second either this year or future

thats it

two seconds and few other picks if pan out may get us a mid first if we get a few deals done quickly

thinke rankine trade be done early then we get creative

or we invest more into next year

be assured we probably know jhf next year so loading up draft capital and freeing up huge cap space

they would have been in his ear before draft and told him scenarios

other would not have offered deal to north which they rejected lol

should have taken as will be a crow 2024

thats how I see it

Not for me

 

[Big Dub]

He never said pick 5 by itself

said it’s a nice pick

to me inferring he wants to get something back

i think we give future 3 rd and we get a second either this year or future

thats it

two seconds and few other picks if pan out may get us a mid first if we get a few deals done quickly

thinke rankine trade be done early then we get creative

or we invest more into next year

be assured we probably know jhf next year so loading up draft capital and freeing up huge cap space

they would have been in his ear before draft and told him scenarios

other would not have offered deal to north which they rejected lol

should have taken as will be a crow 2024

thats how I see it

High water mark would be getting their future first back as part of the trade, as they will get a bid next year before it.

Straight 5 for their future first would be robbery by us, but we could always top up with future third/ second.

 

[Jack McKraken]

I hope you're right but if thats the case why is he there draft night

Because of live trading of picks - isn’t that where he earns his money? And it’s one thing we have done very well when all else has been poor recently

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Agree and Graham is only a B grader under a crap coach may regress to C grader. if he even goes there....

My bigger concern would be they hold 7, and we lose 5. that would be bad - still don't believe 5 is on the table personally

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

 

[Sanders]

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

Wouldn’t have thought he was more than that?

 

[Mutineer]

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

A solid B grader but a B grader nonetheless.

 

[Scorpus]

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

...yes? We'd have at least 7 D graders

 

[crow2crow]

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

I was being generous. Heres his stats - over 100 odd games gives you a good picture.

Average means 50th percentile. So B grader is actually quite generous to be honest

 

[jackster83]

A solid B grader but a B grader nonetheless.

People bag Keays and then say we should go after Graham.

 

[Pugsley]

This fan is up to the 'he might stay' stage.

Denial is just a river.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Graham is a "B grader" ??

Well we must have 6 or 7 D graders on our list.

We do.

Keays
Murphy
Mchenry
Hately
Rowe
Obrien
Crouch

 

[BRL121]

We do.

Keays
Murphy
Mchenry
Hately
Rowe
Obrien
Crouch

Keays must be the highest-rating Brownlow vote-getting D-grader in existence.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Keays must be the highest-rating Brownlow vote-getting D-grader in existence.

Laird and dawson were way better than him all year. That's how much I give a shit about the brownlow. Cripps got best on when we smashed carlton. If it wasnt for that bs he wouldn't of won it.

 

[Sanders]

We do.

Keays
Murphy
Mchenry
Hately
Rowe
Obrien
Crouch

F grade assessment

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Is it legal for 3rd club to pay part of a contract for a player ?

For example could the Crows pay for 200k of Bowes contract but he gets traded to Brisbane?

 

[Sanders]

Is it legal for 3rd club to pay part of a contract for a player ?

For example could the Crows pay for 200k of Bowes contract but he gets traded to Brisbane?

I don’t believe so

 

[crow2crow]

Is it legal for 3rd club to pay part of a contract for a player ?

For example could the Crows pay for 200k of Bowes contract but he gets traded to Brisbane?

you cant do that no

 

[crow2crow]

We do.

Keays
Murphy
Mchenry
Hately
Rowe
Obrien
Crouch

keays - B - his official AFL ranking is 39 despite how much you dislike him

murphy - D
mchenry - C
rowe - D
obrien - C
hately - D
crouch - was A now C

BUT
mcpherson- D
mcasey - D
frampton - D
Davis - D

So yeh still 7 Ds

 

[Mego Red]

Didn’t take long

Didn’t even have to wait until the trade went down, it was only a matter of hours and based on a radio interview. Never change Kristof

I've said multiple times that trading Rankine for pick 5 or more is a loss.

Pick 5 for Rankine and 25 is probably par and what I've always said I expected.

Splitting 5 and we keep something better than 25 is a better result.

I'm starting to dislike the idea of trading a future first - there's a very good chance it will be about the same level as pick 6 and in a better draft. It's not the worst result but it has a lot of risk.

Nice to see that you noticed I'm not as closeminded as blockheads like you, and occasionally will think about things further and sometimes even change my mind.

By the way, there's no point you responding to my posts, EC - I almost never see what you post because I blocked you years ago. I'd rather you just ignored them and you focused your bitterness on other posters.

 

[Mego Red]

I personally was prepared to give up our future first but not pick 5. Pick 5 I saw as a high end mid (possibly Phillipou) that we needed into our squad asap, rather than wait til next year.

Probably stemming from no confidence in getting JHF.

However, if Sloane and Walker both retire next year, that opens up a huge amount of money. Add to it Rankine's hugely front loaded year finishing. Seedsman likey would finish out his contract next year. I've always been sceptical that Crouch is on peanuts as well.

We then go into '23 trade period with a lot of money.

On the flip side, we need to give Fogarty more money, McAdam probably too, depending on his '23 season, same goes for Taylor. If Doedee takes over captaincy, he'll get a pay rise.

Whether I agree with it or not, I'm not sure but it looks like the club are prioritising keeping next year's first rounder and not because it's a better draft.

So - every other club is looking to keep the pick because it's a better draft, but not us. Sure.

 

[Mego Red]

I hope you're right but if thats the case why is he there draft night

Because of the pick trades, obviously.

 

[Brett Cummings]

keays - B - his official AFL ranking is 39 despite how much you dislike him

murphy - D
mchenry - C
rowe - D
obrien - C
hately - D
crouch - was A now C

BUT
mcpherson- D
mcasey - D
frampton - D
Davis - D

So yeh still 7 Ds

Keays is a C at best. His disposal is flipping garbage.

 

[dogs105]

F grade assessment

Solid F, but an F.

 

[StickerMan]

Keays is a C at best. His disposal is *ing garbage.

I get as frustrated as anyone with regards to Keays and his disposals and general lack of awareness at times, however if he were able to tidy up those aspects of his game, he would be a genuine A grade midfielder, and someone we wouldn't have gotten a free swing at.

With all his deficiencies, the guy is still a B grade AFL player. To say otherwise is completely ignorant.

C graders don't finish top five in a B&F (no matter the Club) for three years straight and sit in top 20 for centre & stoppage clearances.

Problem with the above, is he is also top 20 for turnovers and clangers. This is why he is not an A grader.

 

[Brett Cummings]

I get as frustrated as anyone with regards to Keays and his disposals and general lack of awareness at times, however if he were able to tidy up those aspects of his game, he would be a genuine A grade midfielder, and someone we wouldn't have gotten a free swing at.

With all his deficiencies, the guy is still a B grade AFL player. To say otherwise is completely ignorant.

C graders don't finish top five in a B&F (no matter the Club) for three years straight and sit in top 20 for centre & stoppage clearances.

Problem with the above, is he is also top 20 for turnovers and clangers. This is why he is not an A grader.

He misses goals 10m out. He's a total liability.