Jack Watts dropped to Casey

[ThePuppetMaster]

So so many questions I could ask but here are just a few:

1. What exactly is Jack Watts? What position does he play

2. Resentful of what exactly? All top draft picks get a lot of attention in their draft year.

3. How NikNat being hyped? Is Watts better because he lopes around getting cheap kicks on a wing/flank?

4. If Watts is this mysterious work in progress as many have led us to believe and following the career trajectory of Tom Hawkins, why doesn't he play as a key forward?

5. If Watts has achieved so much in his career why was he dropped this week? What other number 1 draft picks from the last 15 years were being dropped for form related issues in their 4th (or 3rd even if we don't count 09 as his first season).

I would of been pretty pissed off if any of our number 1 picks (Murphy, Gibbs or Kreuzer) were performing as poorly as Watts at the same stage of their careers.

1. Jack Watts will be a utility, I imagine rotating through the midfield and as a key forward.

2. Not resentful I'd say; but Melbourne put HUGE expectations on Watts. And there's no surprise he wasn't able to deliver.

3. I don't think we're saying Watts has been better than NN; that's not true.

What we are saying is that Watts has played some good quality footy, which is completely true. Sure he's had an average start to the season; if you ask me there really was only last game where he's been poor - and Neeld dropped him because he didn't play his role and let Fisher towel him up.

4. Watts is a work in progress, he's coming from a long way back and Melbourne supporters have patience with him.

There's no doubt I'd love it if he were dominating the competition right now (although show me one player from 08 who is?) but I'm realistic.

5. Watts hasn't achieved that much; he's had a top ten BnF finish and shown enough to suggest to me he has a long term future as a really good player for my club.

As I've stated, Watts was dropped because he let Fisher towel him up. That was his role (Neeld is big on roles) and he did not play to his role.

 

[Eagle87]

Funny how Watts gets dramatically more contested marks/game than Vickery, and more than Hill, in reality though.

Reality, that is.

Even though Vickery is one year older. And Hill is two years older.

Easier just to make shit up than address things the way they actually are though, of course

Actually they are both 10 months older than Jack. So who is making shit up?

I find it interesting that the comparisons you are using for Jack from that Top 10 are a genuine spud and a bloke who has had his hardness questioned repeatedly.

I guess it's possible that he isn't the softest Top 10 pick from his draft and he isn't the biggest spud from the Top 10 of his draft. Possible. But he is in the GF for both categories at this stage. Which is the concern ...

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Actually they are both 10 months older than Jack.

Says 1989 for Hill's birthday here.

I find it interesting that the comparisons you are using for Jack

My comparisons? No. Responding to said 'comparisons'. Clearly so. Try the other door.

I guess it's possible that he isn't...

Just glazed over and stopped reading at this point. Sorry.

Sure I didn't miss anything though.

 

[bombermick]

Hill is the first deep mid to be tagged, due to how damaging he is. To put watts above him is a joke. Good vfl performance, let's hope he can fulfil his potential - which is why we're so critical

 

[Forward Press]

Says 1989 for Hill's birthday here.

Stephen Hill was born in May 1990. Jack Watts was born in March 1991. 10 months.

 

[raffrox]

Vickery and Hill are miles worse than Watts, and Hill's even softer if that's possible

Comedy gold. I love it!

You are joking right?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

He will definitely come good.

He just won't come great.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

He will definitely come good.

He just won't come great.

Ron Jeremy board.

 

[Bengraham]

I watched Jack in isolation vs West Coast when they played over here.

He was lost on the field, absolutely lost.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Ron Jeremy board.

Hehehe

 

[Eagle87]

Says 1989 for Hill's birthday here.

You are sloppy or lazy or both. It's 10 months. Try google. Tends to undermine a section of our argument.

My comparisons? No. Responding to said 'comparisons'. Clearly so. Try the other door.

The point stands. They are the only 2 in that Top 10 that you've got any grounds for a Jack "win".

...

Given your username, is it your support for really average Dees players pathological?

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

when I argue with you.

That'd be interesting. Wake me up when it really happens.

'Logic'...

 

[Furuncle]

He will definitely come good.

He just won't come great.

Bingo.

 

[Furuncle]

I'll make a bet with anyone that Watts will play more than 100 games, pending serious injury.

This is the funniest post in the thread.

The Demons fans are really going out on a limb for Watts

Only 100 games...? .... pending serious injury?

Almost as soft as Jacky Boy himself

Surely the expectation of ANY number 1 draft pick is they'll be a good player for 10 years and reach 200 games

 

[BigSexc]

This is the funniest post in the thread.

The Demons fans are really going out on a limb for Watts

Only 100 games...? .... pending serious injury?

Almost as soft as Jacky Boy himself

Surely the expectation of ANY number 1 draft pick is they'll be a good player for 10 years and reach 200 games

DW bout him mate. Most mind numbing poster on this site.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Do you understand what the word 'context' means Furuncle (and BS apparently)?

If so, I suggest you find the context for that post... it's here in this thread!

 

[Scotland]

Brent Staker has played over 100 games.

I maintain he and Watts are very similar.

Tall, fast, agile, good at ground level, good hands.

Will Melbourne fans be satisfied if their careers follow the same trajectory?

 

[SirJimi05]

Laughable for opposition supporters to continue pretending Watts hasn't done anything so far.

I actually agree with this. Last year he seemed to come on a bit and was good in quite a few games. He did show a bit.

Still doesn't condone Melbourne supporters suggesting that Watts has shown as much as Hurley and NN. They have both shown way more.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Funny how Watts gets dramatically more contested marks/game than Vickery, and well over twice as many as Hill, in reality though.

Reality, that is.

Even though Vickery is one year older. And Hill is two years older.

Easier just to make shit up than address things the way they actually are though, of course

Vickery also underwent a knee reconstruction when he was 17

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Crikey, I didn't know that - thanks for the info mate.

About to head offline, but I'll definitely be watching the Port game. Hope you guys get the win there, and I'm confident you will

and BS apparently

Yep, nothing but BS Comrade

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Brent Staker has played over 100 games.

I maintain he and Watts are very similar.

Tall, fast, agile, good at ground level, good hands.

Will Melbourne fans be satisfied if their careers follow the same trajectory?

**** no.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

I actually agree with this. Last year he seemed to come on a bit and was good in quite a few games. He did show a bit.

Still doesn't condone Melbourne supporters suggesting that Watts has shown as much as Hurley and NN. They have both shown way more.

Hurley has been disappointing for at least the last 12 months imo, hasnt come far in that time, came along way in his first 24 though.

 

[Zacka11]

Watts is being blasted for not having a tackle on Saturday night.

Somehow, Hurley has only had 1 tackle in 4 games. Not sure how that pathetic stat has escaped the spotlight..?


Lol. First time Watts has been dropped in his whole career, let's delist him.

LOL. First time in his career that he has had a coach that cares about winning or losing

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Vickery and Hill are miles worse than Watts, and Hill's even softer if that's possible

Mmmmm surely you don't actually believe this...

 

[The Prosecutor]

Hurley has been disappointing for at least the last 12 months imo, hasnt come far in that time, came along way in his first 24 though.

He finished third in our best and fairest with the most amount of votes per game not to mention finishing up with 38 coaches votes, equal with the likes of Petrie.