Traded James Stewart [traded to Essendon for pick 77]

[dlanod]

You must have a pretty low opinion of Stewart then, given White was a statistically superior player at the same point in his career.

Come on, surely you're above using the "haha stats" line of reasoning. White was getting force fed games by Sydney due to their paucity of forward options at the time. Stewart's stuck behind Cameron, Patton and Lobb. OTOH if you use averages per game Stewart leads in kicks and handballs and scoring shots at the same point of their career.

 

[dlanod]

You should do comedy, you'll get a lot of material from your club, that's a great starting point?


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And one of these days you'll get some new material. We can go on tour together.

 

[nahnah]

Come on, surely you're above using the "haha stats" line of reasoning. White was getting force fed games by Sydney due to their paucity of forward options at the time. Stewart's stuck behind Cameron, Patton and Lobb. OTOH if you use averages per game Stewart leads in kicks and handballs and scoring shots at the same point of their career.

Patton did his knee like 3 times, Lobb barley played before this year.. even if he wasn't getting games because competition for spots was hot are you not concerned he isn't blowing Jessie white out of the water?

 

[Go Woods]

No way will #5 walk out the door if we're only talking about Marchbank and Stewart.

Your kidding? Giants will want pick 5 for Marchbank alone....don't worry about Stewart he will end up at Pies.

 

[dlanod]

Patton did his knee like 3 times, Lobb barley played before this year.. even if he wasn't getting games because competition for spots was hot are you not concerned he isn't blowing Jessie white out of the water?

Jesse didn't play in his first year, James only played one game. Neither played much in their first year. No real surprise there.
Jesse played two games in his second year, James played three games.
Both played a fair bit in their third year (18 games to White, 13 to Stewart). Stewart had a better year per game than any Jesse had until his seventh season.
Stewart's fourth year was a write-off because of what I mentioned.

So the main point in White's favour is their fourth year - exactly what I was talking about when referring to who kept Stewart out of the team.

 

[feffs93]

Your kidding? Giants will want pick 5 for Marchbank alone....don't worry about Stewart he will end up at Pies.

No chance of a pick 5 for a kid who has only managed a handful of games, hasnt proven himself, although hasnt had the chance due to injuries.

 

[Go Woods]

No chance of a pick 5 for a kid who has only managed a handful of games, hasnt proven himself, although hasnt had the chance due to injuries.

I think GWS will play hardball and demand your 1st round, if you manage to deal for a 2nd round it's a win for Blues.

 

[BluesRule]

I think GWS will play hardball and demand your 1st round, if you manage to deal for a 2nd round it's a win for Blues.

If you think Marchbank is worth pick #5, what is Stewart worth and how do the Pies get it?

 

[bmaurizio]

Our 2017 , 2nd rounder and taking another hefty contract off GWS hands should do the trick and be fair value for Marchbank and Stewart both uncontracted.
Go Baggers

 

[Go Woods]

If you think Marchbank is worth pick #5, what is Stewart worth and how do the Pies get it?

Early 2nd round pick

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Has he nominated Hawthorn yet?

 

[yeee_haaaa!!!!!]

Our 2017 , 2nd rounder and taking another hefty contract off GWS hands should do the trick and be fair value for Marchbank and Stewart both uncontracted.
Go Baggers

Assume you are just taking the p!ss

No need to worry about Stewart tho, he is heading to pie land

 

[Two Planks]

SOS recruiting strategy involves GWS.......that's it

Not a bad idea as the Giants usually accept unders on every deal they make.

 

[bmaurizio]

Assume you are just taking the p!ss

No need to worry about Stewart tho, he is heading to pie land

Gets along with Silvagni Stephen and Didn't you guys overlook him first time around? Also I've read that Stewart senior is just a little pissed off with you lot at pie land. Suppose no harm in trying again.
Go Baggers

 

[BluesRule]

Early 2nd round pick

But you only have pick #25 and that is before Brisbane's Priority Pick. Will the Pies really not make compulsory AFL draft selections until #44?

 

[Apex36]

But you only have pick #25 and that is before Brisbane's Priority Pick. Will the Pies really not make compulsory AFL draft selections until #44?

Maybe wait until trade week to declare what currency other teams will have to trade with. Live picks are only a portion of what can be done in deals.

Having said that, I don't see how Stewart could possibly command such an early pick at the trade table. He was originally taken at 27 and hasn't exactly set the world on fire in his first 4 years in the AFL, so it's hard to fathom that he'd have retained his initial draft value, let alone increased it in that time. I'd have thought a late second or early third would be an acceptable trade tbh.

 

[grouse mate]

Assume you are just taking the p!ss

No need to worry about Stewart tho, he is heading to pie land

Keeps posting similar ridiculous shit so its hard to tell, either a massive troll or just really stupid.

 

[Mateyman]

Jesse didn't play in his first year, James only played one game. Neither played much in their first year. No real surprise there.
Jesse played two games in his second year, James played three games.
Both played a fair bit in their third year (18 games to White, 13 to Stewart). Stewart had a better year per game than any Jesse had until his seventh season.
Stewart's fourth year was a write-off because of what I mentioned.

So the main point in White's favour is their fourth year - exactly what I was talking about when referring to who kept Stewart out of the team.

Sounds like a marginal difference between Jesse White and James Stewart to me. Doesn't sound like a glowing endorsement. Also you have framed Stewart as though he had a way better 3rd season than White. He averaged 0.1 goals more from less games, and 1.8 more disposals. And this is compared to a man you yourself reckon hasn't been AFL standard until the age of about 28.

 

[Scodog10]

Sounds like a marginal difference between Jesse White and James Stewart to me. Doesn't sound like a glowing endorsement. Also you have framed Stewart as though he had a way better 3rd season than White. He averaged 0.1 goals more from less games, and 1.8 more disposals. And this is compared to a man you yourself reckon hasn't been AFL standard until the age of about 28.

Not exactly setting the bar high is it? I really hope Collingwood steer clear and allow SOS to deal on this one.

 

[Bay Pie]

Our 2017 , 2nd rounder and taking another hefty contract off GWS hands should do the trick and be fair value for Marchbank and Stewart both uncontracted.
Go Baggers

If they don't have contracts next year, there's no contract that GWS are committed to, that they'd need to dump.

GWS wanted to keep Marchbank from all reports, so he'll cost plenty. Stewart on the other hand, they may like to keep but not a huge desire like someone you see as best 22 in time. Stewart would not be commanding a big salary next year, while Marchbank may have.

Not that keen on Stewart. Don't see him as a KPP. More a tall flanker. Expectations that he's going to fill a KP are likely to be met with disappointment, IMO. He could prove to be a handy HFF though, but would need to improve his fitness, mobility and agility.

 

[dlanod]

Sounds like a marginal difference between Jesse White and James Stewart to me. Doesn't sound like a glowing endorsement. Also you have framed Stewart as though he had a way better 3rd season than White. He averaged 0.1 goals more from less games, and 1.8 more disposals. And this is compared to a man you yourself reckon hasn't been AFL standard until the age of about 28.

I was getting repeatedly told that Jesse White had a statistically better first four seasons than Stewart. You're taking my reply out of that context. But whatever floats your boat.

 

[Mateyman]

I was getting repeatedly told that Jesse White had a statistically better first four seasons than Stewart. You're taking my reply out of that context. But whatever floats your boat.

Fair enough, they're at best statistically roughly even, although I still rate playing about 50 games as better than 18 at an equivalent level whatever the circumstances. But that's based on my point of view.

 

[Ambrosia]

Wrong thread, but that's incredibly optimistic.

Stevens for 28 is even less likely imo.

 

[DAWESOME!!]

Stewart as the steak knives to go with Marchbank to Carlton in exchange for pick 5 sounds about right to me.

 

[ODNBlue]

Stewart as the steak knives to go with Marchbank to Carlton in exchange for pick 5 sounds about right to me.

Pick 5 will get us steak knives for a family of four.

And Marchbank.