Oppo Camp John Noble (Traded to GCS 2024)

[gouki88]

To be fair, both the data and the eye test suggest Noble is better 1:1 than his replacement in this game, WHE.

WHE also only had 2 contested possessions tonight. Again lower than Noble's average.

Regardless, hypotheticals are not really much use in hindsight.

What data? Do you mean in 1v1 contests? Because Noble’s stats there are very poor

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

To be fair, both the data and the eye test suggest Noble is better 1:1 than his replacement in this game, WHE.

WHE also only had 2 contested possessions tonight. Again lower than Noble's average.

Regardless, hypotheticals are not really much use in hindsight.

I'm one of the biggest WHE haters on the forum , but if you think WHE did not play well tonight you watched a different game than I did l.

 

[Mollythedolly]

To be fair, both the data and the eye test suggest Noble is better 1:1 than his replacement in this game, WHE.

WHE also only had 2 contested possessions tonight. Again lower than Noble's average.

Regardless, hypotheticals are not really much use in hindsight.

WHE had 15 pressure acts, the most of all our defenders, 5 tackles, a team high 10 R50’s, =6th for the team in 1%ers…… just saying.

 

[Didak Wine]

As much as it's a success driven business, gotta feel for jfn because he is one of those 'Rudy' types who get every inch out of themselves. Ultimately all players give it a red hot go and have to face missing out. Kudos to him for getting involved and backing the team.

 

[brysie]

If it wasn't this week, it would certainly have been the following as it's a simple swap for Nick Daicos.

Noble has gotten everything out of himself that he possibly can. His physique and poor decision-making however places a limit on his ceiling. Ultimately, he's a player who others have passed (i.e. Markov) but remains a vital piece from a holistic, entire squad perspective.

 

[doofdoof]

What data? Do you mean in 1v1 contests? Because Noble’s stats there are very poor

.. and WHE's are better or worse?

WHE had 15 pressure acts, the most of all our defenders, 5 tackles, a team high 10 R50’s, =6th for the team in 1%ers…… just saying.

I was responding to stormskye, who specifically referred to 1:1 stats.

Our back 6 won us the game, so arguing noble in would have made a difference is a bit lacking. Arguably if he’d played, we may have lost given the amount of inside 50’s and his poor 1 v 1 stats. On balance I think it was the right call

If you want to bring up a whole lot of other stats that's ok, but the point was specifically relative to Noble and 1:1s.

FWIW Historically, Noble averages more PAs and tackles than WHE and fewer 1%ers. Just saying.

WHE played a good game. That's fine. Saying Noble could have lost us the game based on a single stat is a stretch.

 

[gouki88]

.. and WHE's are better or worse?

I was responding to stormskye, who specifically referred to 1:1 stats.

If you want to bring up a whole lot of other stats that's ok, but the point was specifically relative to Noble and 1:1s.

FWIW Historically, Noble averages more PAs and tackles than WHE and fewer 1%ers. Just saying.

WHE played a good game. That's fine. Saying Noble could have lost us the game based on a single stat is a stretch.

Yes - Noble has the 3rd worst 1 on 1 loss rate in the entire competition, at 60%.

 

[Tippy78]

Saw him in the circle for the song. Really hope he gets to play again this year as he’s been a huge part of the past two years

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Yes - Noble has the 3rd worst 1 on 1 loss rate in the entire competition, at 60%.

Why wasn’t anyone pointing out statistics like that when he was in the team?

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

Should get a game next week. I reckon Maynard will get 2 weeks then 1 on appeal.

 

[gouki88]

Should get a game next week. I reckon Maynard will get 2 weeks then 1 on appeal.

That is, I'm fairly sure, an impossible result given the matrix. It's either 3+ or nothing

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

That is, I'm fairly sure, an impossible result given the matrix. It's either 3+ or nothing

Fair enough. I don’t know the Matrix like you or Keano.

 

[gouki88]

Fair enough. I don’t know the Matrix like you or Keano.

https://www.aflq.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Set-Penalty-Guide.pdf

It is, from my understanding, either going to be careless + severe impact, or an unpunished football act (like McCartin & Mitch Duncan recently)

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

https://www.aflq.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Set-Penalty-Guide.pdf

It is, from my understanding, either going to be careless + severe impact, or an unpunished football act (like McCartin & Mitch Duncan recently)

When campaigners like Goodwin wage in, it doesn’t help his cause.

 

[pablo disco bar]

The poor bloke unless injury or suspension he ain't coming back in

 

[mumblingpie]

Would you put this bloke on Cameron in a GF? I would be very hesitant unfortunately

 

[gouki88]

Would you put this bloke on Cameron in a GF? I would be very hesitant unfortunately

God no. I would have Quaynor, Markov & Maynard on Cameron before Noble

 

[The Royal Sampler]

God no. I would have Quaynor, Markov & Maynard on Cameron before Noble

I think Maynard isn’t fast enough.

Markov or IQ at this stage.

 

[gouki88]

I think Maynard isn’t fast enough.

Markov or IQ at this stage.

Agree, I just think Maynard would do better than Beaker

 

[mfcmac]

Noble in. Trade Maynard

 

[gouki88]

Noble in. Trade Maynard

Why would we trade Maynard to bring in a significantly inferior player?

 

[doofdoof]

Roger that. Would love to see the data set. Not to be a smartarse. Genuinely interested.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Gees was hard watching him crying out on the field whilst the others celebrated, bitter pill to swallow for sure.

 

[JoinDate]

Poor bloke, but like Tay was an integral part of us getting there in the first place. Deserves a medallion.

 

[Didak Wine]

Luv ya johnny