Speculation Liam Baker - Reportedly headed west

[Jeremias]

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[kaiserchief13]

Surely West Coast are not seriously thinking of involving a gun pick 3 for Baker.

Pick 26 is closer to the mark or a future 2nd.

Would be better off walking away from Baker if Richmond want pick 3 involved.

Pick 3 could be split if there is a club that has another pick in the range 6-10 and another 1st rd pick 11-15. Then that 2nd 1st rd pick could be used to trade for Baker + a really late 1st rd pick or really early 2nd round pick. At this stage there is no club that has that.

 

[Come back Cyril]

Pick 3 could be split if there is a club that has another pick in the range 6-10 and another 1st rd pick 11-15. Then that 2nd 1st rd pick could be used to trade for Baker + a really late 1st rd pick or really early 2nd round pick. At this stage there is no club that has that.

I find it incomprehensible that WC value as a first rounder. He doesn't seem elite in any one area and is not a game breaker. He's a nice solid footballer, albeit on the shortish side, with neat skills and by all reports good leadership. As an outsider a contending team giving up a late first/early second makes some sense (although Freo pick 11 is way overs), but why would the rebuilding Eagles give up a mid first???

Genuinely don't get it.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I find it incomprehensible that WC value as a first rounder. He doesn't seem elite in any one area and is not a game breaker. He's a nice solid footballer, albeit on the shortish side, with neat skills and by all reports good leadership. As an outsider a contending team giving up a late first/early second makes some sense (although Freo pick 11 is way overs), but why would the rebuilding Eagles give up a mid first???

Genuinely don't get it.

How are they giving up a mid first for Baker if they get Baker PLUS a late first or a early 2nd back? Then it's simply a few spots downgrade to get Baker

 

[Come back Cyril]

How are they giving up a mid first for Baker if they get Baker PLUS a late first or a early 2nd back? Then it's simply a few spots downgrade to get Baker

That makes more sense. Didn't understand your original post. I would see a 2nd going back as more like faur value with a mid first

 

[kaiserchief13]

That makes more sense. Didn't understand your original post. I would see a 2nd going back as more like faur value with a mid first

E.g. Eagles trade pick 3 for pick 7 and pick 12 from Carlton (Don't know how Carlton gets pick 7 but it's an example)

Eagles then trade pick 12 to Richmond and Richmond trade WC Liam Baker and pick 18 (from Freo trade of Bolton - again an assumption).

So WC lose pick 3, but gain pick 7, 18 and Liam Baker.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

E.g. Eagles trade pick 3 for pick 7 and pick 12 from Carlton (Don't know how Carlton gets pick 7 but it's an example)

Eagles then trade pick 12 to Richmond and Richmond trade WC Liam Baker and pick 18 (from Freo trade of Bolton - again an assumption).

So WC lose pick 3, but gain pick 7, 18 and Liam Baker.

Lol Richmond are NOT giving 18 back in this trade. Far out.

24, mmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe

 

[kaiserchief13]

Lol Richmond are NOT giving 18 back in this trade. Far out.

24, mmmmmmmmmmmmmaybe

I don't think Baker is good enough to be the difference between a pick 12 to pick 24 downgrade, especially as he's out of contract.

 

[Wrenny]

E.g. Eagles trade pick 3 for pick 7 and pick 12 from Carlton (Don't know how Carlton gets pick 7 but it's an example)

Eagles then trade pick 12 to Richmond and Richmond trade WC Liam Baker and pick 18 (from Freo trade of Bolton - again an assumption).

So WC lose pick 3, but gain pick 7, 18 and Liam Baker.

So basically Richmond get in 10 & 12 but lose Bolton Baker & 18???

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

I don't think Baker is good enough to be the difference between a pick 12 to pick 24 downgrade, especially as he's out of contract.

I don't think he's bad enough to be 12 to 18, thats just insulting.

Out of contract Saad went for pick 8.

Now, I don't really rate Saad mega highly, nice player though. I'm not suggesting by any stretch Baker is worth 8, but a 12/18 pick swap is horrendous.

 

[kaiserchief13]

So basically Richmond get in 10 & 12 but lose Bolton Baker & 18???

18 Richmond doesn't have if they still have Bolton.

So Richmond get 10+12 for Bolton and Baker

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

So basically Richmond get in 10 & 12 but lose Bolton Baker & 18???

It's horrendous, isn't it?

 

[kaiserchief13]

I don't think he's bad enough to be 12 to 18, thats just insulting.

Out of contract Saad went for pick 8.

Now, I don't really rate Saad mega highly, nice player though. I'm not suggesting by any stretch Baker is worth 8, but a 12/18 pick swap is horrendous.

Maybe not 18 then, maybe meet halfway and 21, but Richmond doesn't have that

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

18 Richmond doesn't have if they still have Bolton.

So Richmond get 10+12 for Bolton and Baker

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Bolton is contracted for FOUR years.

This is flat out insulting.

 

[Wrenny]

18 Richmond doesn't have if they still have Bolton.

So Richmond get 10+12 for Bolton and Baker

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Maybe not 18 then, maybe meet halfway and 21, but Richmond doesn't have that

We have 20 and you ain't getting that.

I personally would hope the club gives nothing back. We've seen the currency of OOC players the last few years and I don't think a late first is bad at all.

 

[Wrenny]

Maybe not 18 then, maybe meet halfway and 21, but Richmond doesn't have that

If 10,11 & 18 are on the table and Baker has agreed over the weekend to go to Dockers. We would do that trade.

 

[Rich01]

I don't think Baker is good enough to be the difference between a pick 12 to pick 24 downgrade, especially as he's out of contract.

Doesn’t matter what you think.
Your list manager thinks he’s worth around pick 14.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Doesn’t matter what you think.
Your list manager thinks he’s worth around pick 14.

Does he? Where's he said that?

 

[Come back Cyril]

Doesn’t matter what you think.
Your list manager thinks he’s worth around pick 14.

As an outsider this feels like overs. Can a Richmond supporter justify why that would be a fair deal (Baker seems like a nice player but not a difference maker, and umis out of contract).

 

[kaiserchief13]

We have 20 and you ain't getting that.

I personally would hope the club gives nothing back. We've seen the currency of OOC players the last few years and I don't think a late first is bad at all.

Pick 12 for Baker+20 is a pretty fair deal i'd think

 

[Rich01]

Does he? Where's he said that?

Go watch his press conference that he did on Monday.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Pick 12 for Baker+20 is a pretty fair deal i'd think

No, it isn't.

 

[kaiserchief13]

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No, it isn't.

Ok so 12+WC F3 for Baker and 20?

 

[eaglespremiers]

It's horrendous, isn't it?

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

This is flat out insulting.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Ok so 12+WC F3 for Baker and 20?

!2 for Baker and a F3