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If anything, Wilson owes Rendell an apology after last night. Vlad of course is never wrong.
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well said
If anything, Wilson owes Rendell an apology after last night. Vlad of course is never wrong.
Exactly what I was thinking. Baffling and seemingly ridiculous.
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The assumption is that is a bad thing that there is large attrition rate on indigenous kids. (I am not convinced the attrition rate is higher than for non-indigenous recruits but that is another matter). Really, the kids that leave by their own wishes probably think it is great they have just escaped from a gulag and can now just going back to playing footy for fun.
The assumption is that is a bad thing that there is large attrition rate on indigenous kids. (I am not convinced the attrition rate is higher than for non-indigenous recruits but that is another matter). Really, the kids that leave by their own wishes probably think it is great they have just escaped from a gulag and can now just going back to playing footy for fun.
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Interesting??? Yeah right.
Don't expect Robbo to take this issue up to Demetriou. No way Jose!
He'll just write up what we already know that MR is the scapegoat to a flawed recruiting process that hasn't been thoroughly been investigated by the league and that's why the retention number is dropping. Whether Robbo dares to emphasis that Demetriou has his head in the sand regards to what MR's concerns are, are another matter altogether that won't get touched now.
Demetriou rules the roost whether you like or not. Just keep working people, pay your subscriptions to the AFL and let this blow over. End of story.
Great post by Plugger35 (post425). AFL media = shameless pathetic.
Interesting??? Yeah right.
Don't expect Robbo to take this issue up to Demetriou. No way Jose!
He'll just write up what we already know that MR is the scapegoat to a flawed recruiting process that hasn't been thoroughly been investigated by the league and that's why the retention number is dropping. Whether Robbo dares to emphasis that Demetriou has his head in the sand regards to what MR's concerns are, are another matter altogether that won't get touched now.
Demetriou rules the roost whether you like or not. Just keep working people, pay your subscriptions to the AFL and let this blow over. End of story.
Great post by Plugger35 (post425). AFL media = shameless pathetic.
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Rendell: *Spends 15 minutes explaining comments, why he made them and the context of the original conversation*
Wilson: Well you still haven't explained why you made the silly comment in the first place.
Wilson: Well you still haven't explained why you made the silly comment in the first place.
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Wasn't Rendall looking at the bigger picture when he used an admittedly extreme EXAMPLE of what COULD happen in the future if things continue the way that they have.
Too many posters trying to look opinionated for the sake of looking opinionated.
Wasn't Rendall looking at the bigger picture when he used an admittedly extreme EXAMPLE of what COULD happen in the future if things continue the way that they have.
Too many posters trying to look opinionated for the sake of looking opinionated.
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The most powerful form of influence is one that doesn't need to be made explicit...it is simply 'understood' by those it affects (in this case Trigg/AFC) and acted upon as if a direct order had been given.
The most powerful form of influence is one that doesn't need to be made explicit...it is simply 'understood' by those it affects (in this case Trigg/AFC) and acted upon as if a direct order had been given.
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So the Crows sacked him because 'mud would stick'
Why was the conversation brought into the public domain anyway?
So the Crows sacked him because 'mud would stick'
Why was the conversation brought into the public domain anyway?
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AFC have had a couple of good weeks on the field and an absolute shocker off it. I don't mean Vince or Rendell either, but more so the admin's weak willed dealings with both issues. What ever happened to standing by your man? In my eyes both did virtually nothing wrong, yet on both occassions the Crows heirachy have bowed to either percieved public/media pressure or worse Vlad's pressure without it seems knowing the full story. This not a dig at the Crows for the sake of it, I just think if the shoe was on my foot and it was my club, I'd be livid with them. On both occassions they should have got all the facts and then told everyone politely to **** off.
AFC have had a couple of good weeks on the field and an absolute shocker off it. I don't mean Vince or Rendell either, but more so the admin's weak willed dealings with both issues. What ever happened to standing by your man? In my eyes both did virtually nothing wrong, yet on both occassions the Crows heirachy have bowed to either percieved public/media pressure or worse Vlad's pressure without it seems knowing the full story. This not a dig at the Crows for the sake of it, I just think if the shoe was on my foot and it was my club, I'd be livid with them. On both occassions they should have got all the facts and then told everyone politely to **** off.
This.....
I couldn't believe it at the time....it said to me that her mind was well and truly made up, even before she'd heard his version of events....a mistake many seem to have made in recent days.
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Agreed -
Very disapointed in my clubs reactions to the latest incidents.
Agreed -
Very disapointed in my clubs reactions to the latest incidents.
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Is that you andrew??you're very naive if you think andrew demetriou had nothing to do with this. Heres how it goes..
"Andrew this rendall guy is hitting a little too close to home,our secret about aboriginals dropping out of the system and us not doing anything about it might get out"
Demetriou-"what was that comment he made about one white parent??maybe we can get him for that mwahahahahaa"
demetriou to adelaide.."look if you dont sack rendall im taking away all adelaides money,and other priveleges."
adelaide "ok mr demetriou whatever u say".
Thats HOW IT WENT DOWN.Like adrian anderson on andrew demetriou. It was always gonna happen.
Is that you andrew??you're very naive if you think andrew demetriou had nothing to do with this. Heres how it goes..
"Andrew this rendall guy is hitting a little too close to home,our secret about aboriginals dropping out of the system and us not doing anything about it might get out"
Demetriou-"what was that comment he made about one white parent??maybe we can get him for that mwahahahahaa"
demetriou to adelaide.."look if you dont sack rendall im taking away all adelaides money,and other priveleges."
adelaide "ok mr demetriou whatever u say".
Thats HOW IT WENT DOWN.Like adrian anderson on andrew demetriou. It was always gonna happen.
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Have we got a name for the mysterious third person/AFL official that Rendell implies ratted on him?
I think Rendell deserves this to all be out in the open given what he has gone through.
Firstly we need to hear from Misfud and see if he can confirm what Rendell said on Footy Classified is true.
Then a massive explanation from Demetriou and Trigg as to why they unfairly treated Rendell the way they did.
Firstly we need to hear from Misfud and see if he can confirm what Rendell said on Footy Classified is true.
Then a massive explanation from Demetriou and Trigg as to why they unfairly treated Rendell the way they did.
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I think the AFL will find that Mifsud's position is also now untenable. Well, you would think having a trusting relationship with recruiters and other club personnel would be essential for his role.
So in walks Mifsub to your club and asks how are things: mmm - "yeah good mate no problems!"
I think there will be a few influential AFL figures who have now had enough of AD's pontificating. His conceit seems to be growing exponentially on a daily basis. His job is to run the AFL not to advertise his credentials for the labour party preselection.
That Matt Rendell had to go through what he has is quite simply unforgivable. The game is not there for Andrew's cultural crusades, it is not there to conduct witch hunts. It is not there for Caro and Pat Smith to salivate over their now predictable post modern witch hunts.
Anyone with Rendell's contribution deserves at least some chance, some consideration. The tolerance shown to Jurrah's machettie weaving is owed to all of us.
So in walks Mifsub to your club and asks how are things: mmm - "yeah good mate no problems!"
I think there will be a few influential AFL figures who have now had enough of AD's pontificating. His conceit seems to be growing exponentially on a daily basis. His job is to run the AFL not to advertise his credentials for the labour party preselection.
That Matt Rendell had to go through what he has is quite simply unforgivable. The game is not there for Andrew's cultural crusades, it is not there to conduct witch hunts. It is not there for Caro and Pat Smith to salivate over their now predictable post modern witch hunts.
Anyone with Rendell's contribution deserves at least some chance, some consideration. The tolerance shown to Jurrah's machettie weaving is owed to all of us.
"Alleged" machete (or axe) weaving. Otherwise a good post.
As for those who think that Rendell was suggesting that by saying what he did (to get Misfud to realise what could happen if nothing was done about the situation) that those with one "white parent" and one "indigenous parent" are "superior" than those with two of the latter, he was not implying that at all. He was simply implying that they would likely have a better chance of handling big city life and all the structures and so on that are in place in an AFL club, because at least one of the parents would most likely have a good understanding and experience of living that way.
Just like how someone who had one indigenous parent and one "white" parent would be more likely to be able to handle the opposite move, from the big city to a remote indigenous community, than someone who had two "white" parents, who only know about living in a city/suburban environment.
As for those who think that Rendell was suggesting that by saying what he did (to get Misfud to realise what could happen if nothing was done about the situation) that those with one "white parent" and one "indigenous parent" are "superior" than those with two of the latter, he was not implying that at all. He was simply implying that they would likely have a better chance of handling big city life and all the structures and so on that are in place in an AFL club, because at least one of the parents would most likely have a good understanding and experience of living that way.
Just like how someone who had one indigenous parent and one "white" parent would be more likely to be able to handle the opposite move, from the big city to a remote indigenous community, than someone who had two "white" parents, who only know about living in a city/suburban environment.
Why would the AFL do that?
They have established a company line;
Rendell made inappropriate comments
They were brought to AD's attention, he in turn contacted Adelaide
Adelaide raised the matter with Rendell, he chose to resign
AFL is committed to an extremely strong anti-racism policy and have established numerous programs to assist indigenous youth.
End of discussion.
The AFL has nothing to gain by allowing questioning of Mifsud, the 3rd person or indeed of Trigg.
I would think Anderson & Demetriou are the only people likely to be heard on this issue and they will follow the company line I've suggested above.
Presenting anyone else for scrutiny would only allow questions to be asked regarding the 'official' version and that is something the AFL would seek to avoid.
People should be very careful saying things in a joking way that they don't mean. Those who had been their friends, but when they feel they have a grievance, would take those words out of context and use them as weapons. Happened to me when I joked about one of the Inspectors would get promoted. The other guy went to my boss, and to cut a long story short, all sorts of stories came out and my career was affected.
Over the years, since then, I am now learning that keeping my moth shut is often better than voicing an honest opinion which could be misconstrued. Obviously, Rendell didn't say what he was accused of, and certain people used the occasion to make themselves look like virtuous humanitarian heroes at his expense. Sorry he had to lose his job, and that his reputation suffered.
Over the years, since then, I am now learning that keeping my moth shut is often better than voicing an honest opinion which could be misconstrued. Obviously, Rendell didn't say what he was accused of, and certain people used the occasion to make themselves look like virtuous humanitarian heroes at his expense. Sorry he had to lose his job, and that his reputation suffered.
You really think Demetriou would explain anything? After all, he considers himself the Pope of the AFL and he is Infallible.
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