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Don't be ignorant Kane .....you're smarter than this garbage
Expecting wins at the start of a rebuild, during CoVid ......no runners allowed on the ground for a young group
What was the make up of our young side during the COVID year?
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Don't be ignorant Kane .....you're smarter than this garbage
Expecting wins at the start of a rebuild, during CoVid ......no runners allowed on the ground for a young group
Nah, wrong way to look at it .....media act in the now, not in the futureIf the media hates us as much as you think they do then why would would they have to gain by putting the spotlight on a mediocre coach?
Surely doing what they could to keep the coach at the club would better suit their agenda.
It's the same logic that Crows supporters have about wanting Ken to remain at Port.
You were around then ....you best answer thatWhat was the make up of our young side during the COVID year?
Was a good side, to keep Murphy out!Happily - this is not a 'young side.'
WaynesWorld19 Are you saying that there wasn't an expectation that we'd make the 8 this year?
“little evidence we will make finals in 2025” is an opinion, not a fact. Your opinions may well be right but I’d argue there is some evidence we can do much better next year with less injuries. Our score percentages alone (> 100%) and the fact we’ve been matching the top teams in recent weeks with the young inconsistent squad, suggests we’re not that far off.Well we haven’t beaten Richmond the last two years.
So we just pick out stats that actually have little relevance. I’m more interested that we are 8-13-1, similar to 2022 (8-14).
We are 5 years in and there is little evidence we will make finals in 2025 and why would that be?
I wanted to have a go at this, not because I think I'll change anyone's mind, just because it's a fun exercise.Why don't you post your reasons for thinking he's mediocre .....and please do not post this S*** about not getting the Club into Finals during the rebuild ....I'll spew all over my tea
Very comfortable clubIn a year we were saying we were going to make finals and he specifically chanted the mantra of embrace the expectation, we are fourth from bottom.
He needs to be shown the door, five seasons of failing is enough otherwise the whole club doesn't embrace the expectation of not making finals as there is no consequence when we continually don't.
His own views with embrace the expectation (deal with the pressure) doesn’t align with the clubs, hence then signing him early to avoid the speculation and pressure.In a year we were saying we were going to make finals and he specifically chanted the mantra of embrace the expectation, we are fourth from bottom.
He needs to be shown the door, five seasons of failing is enough otherwise the whole club doesn't embrace the expectation of not making finals as there is no consequence when we continually don't.
Thanks for putting the effort in .....you've obviously put thought into your post, and that I appreciateI wanted to have a go at this, not because I think I'll change anyone's mind, just because it's a fun exercise.
1) He didn't bring a broom. The best organizational changers I've seen in action (even in footy coach terms) come with a broom and sweep away a bunch of folks. Making tough, even harsh calls. We're still dealing with Laird, Smith, Crouch and I believe we would still have Sloane in the guts if not for the eye, so many years later. Some of these blokes really do smack of bad attitude and I think they shouldn't even be here.
2) I don't agree with his selection policies and think he's too slow to craft players into their best spot. No eye for talent & position. Dawson took too long to get into the guts, Rankine did too. Laird took too long to get booted out. I'm still a Rachele in the middle believer and very disappointed we've not let him in there, similar for Pedlar. The continual selection of all available seniors over young players doesn't sit right with me. Also bog average blokes like Murphy, Berry & Schoenberg over more interesting & talented like Peds, Dowling, Taylor, and even youngsters who are in the team should have more games by now like Worrell, Nank.
3) He's failed to make us resilient. Failed to teach the team how to close out/win close games. When we're good enough to be in it right at the end of games, we don't tend to win. It's not even 50/50 chance. I know we're young but so are others and we lose tight games to them more often than not. A lot of times when we've got "must win" games or starting a new year with some expectation, we flop. Even the famous loss to Sydney in 2023, we were down by 40+ points due to not being resilient.
4) I can't get past so many stupid tactical movesespecially around who to sub and when. ik ik, it's little stuff that might not make a real difference (although some were so dumb they just might have), but it just smacks of stupidity so many times. Won't go into all of them, they've been repeated ad-nauseum.
5) Hasn't fixed our midfield. Overall it's still a weakness after sooo many years. I put this last because I know you can't fix everything even in 5 years.
ig that's it
Before the season Nicks himself said we should be making finals. We have clearly fallen woefully short of expectations.
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Nicks embracing the Crows hype as he eyes finals, new contract
Adelaide fell just short of finals last year but has improved every season in Matthew Nicks' four-year tenurewww.afl.com.au
Nicks said Adelaide had delivered on its goal of challenging the best teams in his fourth season, but it was time for the club to do more as it fights for its first finals appearance since 2017.
"We said we were going to come in and challenge the best. We did that. We've got to aim high now," Nicks told AFL.com.au at the club's West Lakes base on Friday.
"So we want to do more than challenge the best this year. There's an expectation on us to perform and play finals footy. We want to embrace that expectation and aim for it, and some.
"We don't want to finish up in August. You get sick of watching finals footy … as do our players the longer they're in the game. So we'll embrace the expectation."
There are Crows optimists that post decent content on this board. Wayne isn't one of them.Nahh WaynesWorld19 is a big bonus to have on this board, whether you like alternative points of view to consider, or you just like the drama - I like both!
But we already see how vetted our "Members Candidates" are.
And the one the club prefer win anyway.
It is a Utopian dream to think much will really change once us members have a vote for all of the Board.
Aright new day let's all draw a line under responding to you know who
Aright new day let's all draw a line under responding to you know who
Given that most rebuilding coaches are lucky to get 3 years before getting sacked, what metric are you basing your assessment that not making the finals in 4 seasons is a pass mark?
Why do most other coaches get sacked after 3 seasons if you believe that making the finals after 4 seasons is unrealistic?
The club has tried a few times to compare Nicks to Thompson and Hardwick, but after five seasons
Hardwick 48% W/L record - 2 finals series
Thompson 49% W/L record - 2 finals series
Nicks 35% W/L record - 0 finals
In time we'll look back on the Nicks era as one that should have ended at the end of 2022.
Inherited a bottom 4 list
Clarkson
Nicks
Is a proven successful coach
Clarkson
Nicks
Would consider almost making finals but not really a pass
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Why do people continue this line about win rate in the first 3 seasonsThere’s a high correlation between list ability, list age profile and win rate. I don’t think it would have mattered who was coaching in those first 3 years, there was never going to be a high win rate. I think the club is looking at where we were in 2020 (64%) to where we are now (competitive but middling) and would say that is progression.
When you finish last, the only way is up. And we still had plenty of senior guys still in the team that yearThere’s a high correlation between list ability, list age profile and win rate. I don’t think it would have mattered who was coaching in those first 3 years, there was never going to be a high win rate. I think the club is looking at where we were in 2020 (64%) to where we are now (competitive but middling) and would say that is progression.