Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach

[1970crow]

Silver's today was saying we've added the high end draft talent and we would be looking at free agency and the trade market.

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Jesus and this guy came from Hawthorn. Getting the picture he didn’t get too involved in the footy side of things. We’ve added Rachele and TT who look like they might be high end talent. Not much behind them at this stage though. Did he mention how stacked our midfield is?

 

[1970crow]

To be fair, "time to start performing" is I think a reasonable attitude. And yes, we should be pushing for the bottom of the 8, that doesn't mean that's the ceiling we should aim for, just the next step. "We should be pushing for top 4 / a flag" is not something sensible to say right now.

OK, whether or not you think the current list / coaches / player development is capable of "starting to perform" to that level is another question, but I'm not going to bag Sloane for saying that.

I heard that, and I didn't like it. We've got a few good draftees, but we haven't finished. OK if we can land a good FA; and OK if we're trading for a young gun mid, but we can't afford to trade away our next first rounder for anything less than an absolute gun.

You’re focussing on only half the sentence. The first part was that we’d done all our learning. Performing is a given, every player should be performing at their best, noting inconsistencies with developing players. It’s the ‘we’ve finished learning’ bit that is moronic.

 

[arrowman]

You’re focussing on only half the sentence. The first part was that we’d done all our learning. Performing is a given, every player should be performing at their best, noting inconsistencies with developing players. It’s the ‘we’ve finished learning’ bit that is moronic.

Well, I read it differently. To me it was more like - we've had to do a lot of learning, but we can't use that as an excuse any more, we need to start putting it on the field. OK "finished learning" if you take it literally, but I'm giving him a pass.

 

[Sanders]

Thats what Blighty did. Its his legacy. Make the 8, get some luck and anything can happen.

It’s not

We were the best performed H&A team in both 1997&1998

The irony is that our flags were not based on make the 8 and anything can happen

That was an urban myth that took hold

 

[jackster83]

It’s not

We were the best performed H&A team in both 1997&1998

The irony is that our flags were not based on make the 8 and anything can happen

That was an urban myth that took hold

The best % in both years.

 

[Sanders]

Silver's today was saying we've added the high end draft talent and we would be looking at free agency and the trade market.

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That sounds like a warning to Nicks

We hired you for some light, moderate list rejuvenation; you crashed and cratered everything - time to show some progress very soon

 

[MRB37]

Silver's today was saying we've added the high end draft talent and we would be looking at free agency and the trade market.

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Not sure what high end draft talent he's referring to.

 

[conVINCEd]

If we’re going hard at free agency then Bailey Dale

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Bailey Dale

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.6

4star

MG

117.4

2star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.7

3star

MG

117.4

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

is the one I want.

Can see him as a perfect, much younger replacement for Seedsman. Offer him a spot on the wing and more coin that the Bulldogs could afford (he and Dawson would be a brilliant wing combo).

Caleb Daniel

35

Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

is a wonderful player but I feel Dale would suit our needs more.

Would happily take either/both, let’s be honest.

And both are apparently unrestricted, so no risk of the Dogs matching if we can woo them.

 

[AFC979810]

It’s not

We were the best performed H&A team in both 1997&1998

The irony is that our flags were not based on make the 8 and anything can happen

That was an urban myth that took hold

Is that you John Who?

We finished 4th in 1997 and 5th in 1998. In 1998 we were one game and percentage from 9th spot.

 

[1970crow]

Is that you John Who?

We finished 4th in 1997 and 5th in 1998. In 1998 we were one game and percentage from 9th spot.

1 game from 3rd spot too.

 

[AFC979810]

1 game from 3rd spot too.

Correct. 1 game away from being the 3rd best team during the H&A season.

 

[1970crow]

Correct. 1 game away from being the 3rd best team during the H&A season.

Yep. 1 game away from finishing 3rd.

 

[AFC979810]

The best % in both years.

Until percentage is more important than winning games of football it will remain a useless, unimportant stat for dictating how good a team is.

The last time the team with best percentage won the flag was 2015.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Correct. 1 game away from being the 3rd best team during the H&A season.

And Blight was ****ing fuming, able to be heard from surrounding suburbs yelling during training and leaving games early he was so disgusted

 

[Sanders]

Is that you John Who?

We finished 4th in 1997 and 5th in 1998. In 1998 we were one game and percentage from 9th spot.

We had the best % in the league which is well accepted these days as a far better predictor of success than just points in an unbalanced fixture

 

[Sanders]

Until percentage is more important than winning games of football it will remain a useless, unimportant stat for dictating how good a team is.

Until is now

 

[AFC979810]

We had the best % in the league which is well accepted these days as a far better predictor of success than just points in an unbalanced fixture

By what metric?

The last 6 teams to win the flag didn't have the best percentage, however 3 of those teams had most wins.

 

[moogerfooger]

We had the best % in the league which is well accepted these days as a far better predictor of success than just points in an unbalanced fixture

The unbalanced fixture leads to unbalanced % as well though. Getting to play North and WC twice this year gives a club a huge % opportunity (unless you're the AFC).

 

[Bearded Clam]

I can’t listen to him, in fact I can’t listen to any of them.

So many meaningless cliche’s…

 

[dylan123]

We had the best % in the league which is well accepted these days as a far better predictor of success than just points in an unbalanced fixture

We did in 2017 too and many seem to believe our ladder position was overrated.

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[Sanders]

By what metric?

The last 6 teams to win the flag didn't have the best percentage, however 3 of those teams had most wins.

By a longer metric than 6 years

Compare 2017 & 2016 and tell me about how meaningful H&A wins are

In a lopsided draw, how you perform within games is at least as important as the final result.

Take last year, in a grand final collapse in the 3rd quarter so inexplicable they should be looking for the involvement of Indian Bookmakers - WB were otherwise the better team in a game they should have won with a better % from 5th spot over a team 10 points better in the H&A

Who could have seen WB’s performance? Anyone noting %

Port collapsing again, 1/2 game out of top spot but with what - 5th or 6th best %?

 

[Sanders]

The unbalanced fixture leads to unbalanced % as well though. Getting to play North and WC twice this year gives a club a huge % opportunity (unless you're the AFC).

This is an additional wrinkle, true.

 

[Sanders]

We did in 2017 too and many seem to believe our ladder position was overrated.

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Were we not close? Did we significantly underperform, or did we make it to the grand final with the best %

Our ladder position incidentally was good enough only for 7th place in 2016. The argument is that we were not a dominant team in 2017 as some mistakenly claimed

 

[AFC979810]

By a longer metric than 6 years

Compare 2017 & 2016 and tell me about how meaningful H&A wins are

In a lopsided draw, how you perform within games is at least as important as the final result.

Take last year, in a grand final collapse in the 3rd quarter so inexplicable they should be looking for the involvement of Indian Bookmakers - WB were otherwise the better team in a game they should have won with a better % from 5th spot over a team 10 points better in the H&A

Who could have seen WB’s performance? Anyone noting %

Port collapsing again, 1/2 game out of top spot but with what - 5th or 6th best %?

Interesting. Richmond not as good as their 3 flags in 4 years suggests? Funny the 1 year they had the best percentage, they didn't make the grand final.

Lets compare 2017 & 2016 and you can tell me how important % was.

2017 the two teams with most wins made the grand final. The team with the 4th best percentage won the flag. Teams with 2nd & 3rd best percentage didn't make the Prelims. The teams with the equal best record and 2nd best record also made the prelim.

2016 the team with the most wins and best percentage made the grand final. It was an incredibly tight year with regards to wins. 7th place bulldogs were only 2 wins behind 1st place, whilst their percentage was 7th (but a distant 7th).

Hell lets even throw in 2018. The season where the 3 teams with the best percentage didn't make the grand final. (2nd and 3rd best record did).

 

[Maddogmetro]

Were we not close? Did we significantly underperform, or did we make it to the grand final with the best %

Our ladder position incidentally was good enough only for 7th place in 2016. The argument is that we were not a dominant team in 2017 as some mistakenly claimed

I'm not sold on a comparison between years in this way.

In my view, it shows that some teams were more dominant in 2016, but that the competition was closer in 2017, hence a less impressive record in the wins/loss columns was enough to finish top.