That is crap. I love Brown, he is a fantastic player, best KPP since Carey IMO. He, right now has had a better career then Riewoldt IMO. But i also believe Riewoldt has a bit more in the tank and is probably just hitting his peak over the last year. Riewoldt smashed the Pies in the QF last year, and although some argue he won the game by diving at the start of the second half, when it came to the crunch, last in the fourth when the game was one the line, he stepped up like a champion player. Yes he may of not performed, but he gave his all, you could see by the way he was throwing himself into every pack, and although some wouldn't consider it an excuse, he did have an obvious knee injury, but also a tore a muscle in his calf. Pretty hard injury to play with, most would of been out for 2 - 3 weeks.
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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Matthew Pavlich, Nick Riewoldt or Jonathan Brown
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That is crap. I love Brown, he is a fantastic player, best KPP since Carey IMO. He, right now has had a better career then Riewoldt IMO. But i also believe Riewoldt has a bit more in the tank and is probably just hitting his peak over the last year. Riewoldt smashed the Pies in the QF last year, and although some argue he won the game by diving at the start of the second half, when it came to the crunch, last in the fourth when the game was one the line, he stepped up like a champion player. Yes he may of not performed, but he gave his all, you could see by the way he was throwing himself into every pack, and although some wouldn't consider it an excuse, he did have an obvious knee injury, but also a tore a muscle in his calf. Pretty hard injury to play with, most would of been out for 2 - 3 weeks.
All of the above.....
What.....
Has that been done before?
Riewoldt
Brown
Pavlich
Anyway they are all awesome players, and given the chance one of them wanted to be traded to your club you would take them without hesitating, and you wouldn't complain that you didn't get the one of the other two.
What.....
Has that been done before?
Riewoldt
Brown
Pavlich
Anyway they are all awesome players, and given the chance one of them wanted to be traded to your club you would take them without hesitating, and you wouldn't complain that you didn't get the one of the other two.
willoblue
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overall Pav (biased probably)
as a pure CHF, Brown easily.
Riewoldt a champion but a fair way behind those 2
as a pure CHF, Brown easily.
Riewoldt a champion but a fair way behind those 2
DonMania#5
Norm Smith Medallist
Riewoldt's consistency makes him the best..
juddy_Like
Norm Smith Medallist
When was Pav's last bad game?
Not disagreeing with you or anything but I don't think Riewoldt takes the cake because of his consistency.
Umm how does that make the comment that Brown is miles ahead of Roo any less sillier?
Actually your comment maybe dumber than the original one.
Brown is the best power forward in the competition, probably the only competition for brown would be Hall and Buddy. Browns bulk, mass, short distance speed, over all tank and assured marking is intimidating, his ability to cripple defenders edges out Hall and Buddy marginally. Brown and Hall would have to be the scariest forwards since Plugger dominated the 50m arc.
Riewoldt is the best leading forward in the competition, his sheer endurance coupled with outstanding marking, capacity to regularly run 150m and to finish off makes him damn hard for defenders to stick to. Buddy was a lot like this in 07 and 08.
Pavlich is probably more flexible in that he can play as a defender and forward, and probably behind marginally the talented chris grant in performance to date. He has a lot of building blocks as an outstanding player.
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Without Brown or Reiwoldt in their teams, both brisbane and St kilda would take a serious dent in their premiership hopes, both are marquee players.
With or without pavlich freo are still struggling.
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Brown
Reiwoldt
Hall
Buddy
Pavlich
as forwards.
Tho i think Buddy if he can recapture 07/08 form will probably be as good or better than the others.
Riewoldt is the best leading forward in the competition, his sheer endurance coupled with outstanding marking, capacity to regularly run 150m and to finish off makes him damn hard for defenders to stick to. Buddy was a lot like this in 07 and 08.
Pavlich is probably more flexible in that he can play as a defender and forward, and probably behind marginally the talented chris grant in performance to date. He has a lot of building blocks as an outstanding player.
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Without Brown or Reiwoldt in their teams, both brisbane and St kilda would take a serious dent in their premiership hopes, both are marquee players.
With or without pavlich freo are still struggling.
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Brown
Reiwoldt
Hall
Buddy
Pavlich
as forwards.
Tho i think Buddy if he can recapture 07/08 form will probably be as good or better than the others.
1. Brown
2. Pavlich
3. Riewoldt
2. Pavlich
3. Riewoldt
As a Doggies supporter, it is clear that Riewoldt is way ahead. His ability to run and still get to position to take the telling marks is unequalled.
Brown has played some great games and clearly wins games off his own boot, but against the Bulldogs he was always generally well held by Brian Harris and Brian Lake has continued to keep him under control.
Pavlich has been a very good player, but does not exert the domination of the other 2. The comparison to Chris Grant is pretty good and Grant has the Pav covered.
Brown has played some great games and clearly wins games off his own boot, but against the Bulldogs he was always generally well held by Brian Harris and Brian Lake has continued to keep him under control.
Pavlich has been a very good player, but does not exert the domination of the other 2. The comparison to Chris Grant is pretty good and Grant has the Pav covered.
Agree with your summation on Brown as the best PF, Reiwoldt the best LF and Pavlich as the most flexible of the 3. I would rate Pav higher than Chris Grant though and I was one of Grant's biggest fans. Loved him as a player.
I would think Buddy is miles ahead of Hall. I actually can't even begin to put Hall in the same class as Buddy and the others at this in point.
karix
Yarrr!
Brown then Pav, take Riewoldt off the list.
Pav has displayed class and skill despite being in a team that has been 'rebuilding' for a while.
Reiwoldt is the opposite, his main skills are overhead marks and milking free kicks after he fails overhead marks. He's a consistently bland player that has been made to look polished and shiny with constant and silky delivery from a very good midfield making him look better than he is.
That being said, his spray tans looks fabulous this year
Pav has displayed class and skill despite being in a team that has been 'rebuilding' for a while.
Reiwoldt is the opposite, his main skills are overhead marks and milking free kicks after he fails overhead marks. He's a consistently bland player that has been made to look polished and shiny with constant and silky delivery from a very good midfield making him look better than he is.
That being said, his spray tans looks fabulous this year
Stoddy
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Brown then Pav, take Riewoldt off the list.
Pav has displayed class and skill despite being in a team that has been 'rebuilding' for a while.
Reiwoldt is the opposite, his main skills are overhead marks and milking free kicks after he fails overhead marks. He's a consistently bland player that has been made to look polished and shiny with constant and silky delivery from a very good midfield making him look better than he is.
That being said, his spray tans looks fabulous this year
couldnt be any more wrong about riewoldt, champion
and as i said before so are the other 2
karix
Yarrr!
On review it isn't very accurate, but after the crying incident at the Gabba every time I look at him I just see those puffy red eyes and smirk. Probably makes it hard to see how well he's playing.
AFLOnline
Norm Smith Medallist
Pavlich was pretty average for his own standards last season albeit had his fair share of injuries. It wasn't until mid way or thereabouts he started playing decent football in the midfield.
It's fair to say Riewoldt is the most consistent of the three, and Jonathon Brown is the most dominant. Pavlich is not close to the mark of these two nowadays. Easily the two best centre half forwards AND players in the AFL.
AFLOnline
Norm Smith Medallist
Riewoldt took 5 of the strongest contested marks tonight... Riewoldt kicked 7.0 straight.
Straight kicking and contested marks are Brownys biggest asset.
I'm not saying Riewoldt is better (I did post in a thread that JB was better than Riewoldt on recent form) but to say Riewoldt only has endurance over Brown (possibly, I might add) is complete horse shit.
We have the winner.
No doubt at all.
Leigh Matthews himself rates Riewoldt over Browne over the last few years and why? Riewoldt delivers CONSISTENTLY - week in week out.
Yep Browne will have his 7 games (as will Roo) then Borwns will have his 1 or 2 games - its no surprise that avg goals over their career has Riewoldt with a higher avg.
Id also argue Riewoldt has far greater flexibility than Browne - can run the length of the ground, go into defence when needed....Browne would be knackered and was blowing up the other night...Riewoldt does it in a canter.
Browne also really needs to stop with the Carey impersonations and talking like a cow chewing the cud FFS.....its all a bit "yeah, nah, mate....." put on.
BTW - didnt mentione Pavlich cause its obvious he is not in the league of these 2. Good on his day Matthew......just not sure what day that ever is.....
Brown's best is better than anything the other two can serve up.
With the addition of Fev to the Brisbane team, it looks like we might be seeing his best a lot more consistently this year, which is a terrifying thought as an opposition fan.
With the addition of Fev to the Brisbane team, it looks like we might be seeing his best a lot more consistently this year, which is a terrifying thought as an opposition fan.
Totally agree. Reiwoldt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S Browne. However i'm not really sure that Browne has kicked more than 1 gaol in his career.
Reiwoldt kicked like 9 or 10 goals playing ff once, he absolutely creeamed everyone.
I'd take reiwoldts best over browns. People need to stop seeing one being named better as an insult.
After last year it's fair to give it to reiwoldt, he was the best player last year and hasn't dropped the ball yet this year.
Brown is just as good if not marginally behind imo. He gets plus points for less diving but thats not much to say about how good they are.
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Brown was runner up in the coleman last year.
I think its a bit unfair on Pav to rate him in this thread as he hasnt played a true CHF position for a while now.
I think as a leader and a physical presence Jonathon Brown has no equal in the AFL.
As far as importance goes to a team Nick Riewoldt is by far the most important player to his team bar none without riewoldt we dont stand a chance at the flag.
Bottom line is all 3 clubs are blessed to have these guys and there are 13 clubs who would quite happily take them off either of our hands
I think as a leader and a physical presence Jonathon Brown has no equal in the AFL.
As far as importance goes to a team Nick Riewoldt is by far the most important player to his team bar none without riewoldt we dont stand a chance at the flag.
Bottom line is all 3 clubs are blessed to have these guys and there are 13 clubs who would quite happily take them off either of our hands
Apologies for the confusion its just that J Brown is always out injured and only plays about 11 games a year so I forgot how to spell it......
Anyways back on topic - what did you make of leigh Matthews rating Riewoldt ahead of J BROWN......do you think hed know??
I always though Kouta's best was better than James Hirds (and most in the comps to be honest...)......only problem was Kouta didnt do it as consistently as Hird did.....
Whats the point of being the best "on your day" (and against Riewoldt IMHO thats arguable) if you dont deliver consistently?
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