Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott

[Tas]

I’m looking forward to the GIFs.

The gifs were popular with West Coast supporters on BF, were some hilarious gifs over the years, I forgot why they hated him but they had a thread dedicated to him for when we used to play the Eagles.

 

[Cold Sober]

Weak as piss safe appointment
Hope he ends up a better coach than his brother and we don't have to wait 11 years for him to be another God coach.

 

[frodos gardener]

There’s often a cultural disconnect between young Sudanese and their parents; it is not as easy for them to communicate with each other, particularly when young men are involved, as you might think. The parents may often feel frustrated that they can’t control their kids and the kids can see their folks as irrelevant. I’m not saying it was the case with Majak however I’d not be surprised if he felt an element of isolation and/or dealing with his issues alone.

I’d definitely not be trying to draw a connection between Daw’s situation and Scott’s style.

 

[Zach Package]

Daw's parents didn't even know about his mental health problems, he wasn't going to open up to the coach. The sad part was that he was playing great footy down as a defender around that period so I don't think he had any added football pressure at the time.

That is the weird thing about mental illness, it doesn't just manifest when everything is going badly. He had a few attempts prior to the bridge incident, was drinking a lot, his girlfriend became pregnant and it was an unfortunate period of time in his life. I think it is a bit unfair to lay any blame on Scott.

There’s far too much complexity in mental health to lay any blame at the feet of the coach or the club, let alone in an elite sporting environment, let alone in someone from a culturally/linguistically diverse background, let alone a combination of all 3.

Acknowledgement of mental health problems in some communities results in anything from denial to exile or worse.

 

[Lore]

I was most impressed by him saying he was responsible for managing the footy program as a whole.

Him being an effective delegator and communicator with his line coaches is going to be as important as his own tactical nous.

This is the modern way and the way forward, not a Clarkson style one man tinpot dictatorship.

On top of that there was something in there about the board trusting him to lead the footy program or something. So not just him demanding it.

 

[ghostdog]

Daw's parents didn't even know about his mental health problems, he wasn't going to open up to the coach. The sad part was that he was playing great footy down as a defender around that period so I don't think he had any added football pressure at the time.

That is the weird thing about mental illness, it doesn't just manifest when everything is going badly. He had a few attempts prior to the bridge incident, was drinking a lot, his girlfriend became pregnant and it was an unfortunate period of time in his life. I think it is a bit unfair to lay any blame on Scott.

As I said, I wouldn't draw any direct correlation between the two.

 

[Lore]

There’s far too much complexity in mental health to lay any blame at the feet of the coach or the club, let alone in an elite sporting environment, let alone in someone from a culturally/linguistically diverse background, let alone a combination of all 3.

Acknowledgement of mental health problems in some communities results in anything from denial to exile or worse.

That's still yuck though. I guess the world is changing more quickly now than it used to. Sudanese isn't Indigenous but it's still a matter of understanding where the kid comes from and having the right kind of support in place that suits their particular needs, without making assumptions or being a patronising arseh*le about it.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Weak as piss safe appointment
Hope he ends up a better coach than his brother and we don't have to wait 11 years for him to be another God coach.

I would take the other Scott's record over the last 11 years and run for the ****ing hills.

 

[dank420_]

Weak as piss safe appointment
Hope he ends up a better coach than his brother and we don't have to wait 11 years for him to be another God coach.

Relax bro I heard part of his presentation was showing how big his balls are.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Relax bro I heard part of his presentation was showing how big his balls are.

The board were particularly impressed with his experience spanning 40 years of resting said big balls on Chris Scott's forehead

 

[Zach Package]

The board were particularly impressed with his experience spanning 40 years of resting said big balls on Chris Scott's forehead

A T bagging based selection would certainly be cutting edge

 

[fairbump_playon]

Weak as piss safe appointment
Hope he ends up a better coach than his brother and we don't have to wait 11 years for him to be another God coach.

Should have rolled the dice, got wild and crazy and appointed Bruce McAveny. Or Dustin Martin. Or a goalpost or something.

 

[Lore]

If you haven't seen anything else today this one is only 5 minutes and sums up the main points really well:


It is an in-house interview so obviously all the questions are dixers, so it's interesting what they specifically want him to talk about:

• Old job: Good to contribute to the game at AFL House, etc etc
• Game plan: The game evolves quickly, looks very different now compared to 5, 6, 7 years ago. Will evolve again. No preconceived ideas about game plan. Wants to get to know players etc. then develop something that suits.
• Development focus: No substitute for experience, but you have to develop that experience in the right way. Invest time into building the program, will take a lot of hard work, young list. Youth means inconsistency. Committed to putting all his time into them and developing them. Building a world class football program. "That's my job".
• Mantra: "You get what you deserve over the long term". You're not entitled to anything. As soon as you start thinking you're entitled you're not going to reach your potential. Have to work for it. [n.b. is this the Scottian equivalent of 'blue collar'?]
• Facilities: First time he's been inside. Amazing, two fantastic ovals, the hangar, it's an incredible opportunity and a blueprint for all future facilities. Excited to be here. Players have the best opportunity to be the best they can be.
• Message to members: Get behind our players, support them. All time and resources will go into making them better and building our football program. Get behind them, get on the journey. It's going to take time, that's the reality, but we have the opportunity and a blank canvas to build something special.

There's also footage of him meeting the players so you can see a few more of them: Jones, Laverde, Durham, Wright, Menzie, Redman, Hind, Brand.
Plus already spotted in the photos earlier: Bryan, Caldwell, Cox, D'Ambrosio, Guelfi, Ham, Heppell, Langford, Parish, Reid, Ridley, Shiel, Wanganeen.

And Nat Wood was there

 

[fpm84]

I’m looking forward to the GIFs.

You can always just photoshop a Bombers polo into this one.

Good luck, really hope it works out with Brad, think you’ll be impressed by the standards he instills from day one.

 

[Albertross]

24+ hours on and I still feel kind of meh about his appointment as coach.

Didn't have time to watch his presser, but, at the end of the day, actions speak louder than words. Those actions come down to the playing group as much as Brad though.

So, do we have the playing group that will respond to his coaching style? He is known for having tantrums in the box, (then brings in the dissent rule). So, how will the players respond to his coaching style? Gen whatever today is different to Gen whatever from 20 years ago. Can we adapt to his coaching style to suit the generational shift within the team?

The way I see it, the board painted themselves into a corner with the experienced coach comment. At the end of the day, as far as experienced coaches go, he was the last (only) man standing. To me, it feels like what choice did they have to save face but to appoint the applicant with the most senior coaching experience that was willing to go through the process with that comment.

The other thing that worries me is the reported 4 year contract. So, we afford an experienced coach 4 years to turn things around, but, Rutten was dumped in far less time than that! How many years do we give Scott before we consider his appointment the right call or not? After all, he is experienced, should we not expect results sooner?

Can we be bottom 4 next year and all is ok? What about bottom 4-6 the year after? If we climb up next year and finish 8-10 on ladder (honeymoon period), but drop off the next year as with Rutten, are we ok with that?

I hope he succeeds, as then the club itself has succeeded. I'm just not that inspired with his appointment. If only we went 3 months earlier, or 8 months later in our pursuit for a coach, we may have had more suitable applicants.

Anyway, I will support Brad and the club, cause, Go Don's. I just want us to be respected again, not just be competitive, but to become a dominant force within the competition, not only off field, but more importantly, on field.

So, yeah, Go Don's!!!❤

 

[Maxabillions]

Weak as piss safe appointment
Hope he ends up a better coach than his brother and we don't have to wait 11 years for him to be another God coach.

How would Cold Sober have done things?

 

[footyfanatic111]

 

[ant555]

How would Cold Sober have done things?

 

[Old Campaigner]

• Game plan: The game evolves quickly, looks very different now compared to 5, 6, 7 years ago. Will evolve again. No preconceived ideas about game plan. Wants to get to know players etc. then develop something that suits.

Sounds like we'll be subjected to another season of rejigging and bedding down the gameplan. Not that that's a bad thing, but it seems ironic given one of the justifications given by people who supported sacking Rutten was that we were going nowhere fast.

 

[BOMBERBLITZ]

Can't wait for the six-peat!

 

[madrigal]

Mantra: "You get what you deserve over the long term".

So that's why North has the worst membership numbers of all the Victorian teams.

 

[MiguelM]

Sounds like we'll be subjected to another season of rejigging and bedding down the gameplan. Not that that's a bad thing, but it seems ironic given one of the justifications given by people who supported sacking Rutten was that we were going nowhere fast.

For mine, player buy in and pressure acts first, then sort out game plan.

The players were clearly not playing for Rutten.

Game plans can be overrated, I am sure Sydney had one. 60% of Geelong's game plan was relentless pressure. If you don't have that, you are not competitive in AFL. Look at Collingwood, belief & pressure.

 

[Albertross]

For mine, player buy in and pressure acts first, then sort out game plan.

The players were clearly not playing for Rutten.

Game plans can be overrated, I am sure Sydney had one. 60% of Geelong's game plan was relentless pressure. If you don't have that, you are not competitive in AFL. Look at Collingwood, belief & pressure.

So first and foremost, it's on the players. Applying the pressure, running both ways, 1%ers, wanting to succeed.

So what makes the current generation of players buy in? Truck attempted to sell the club history.

Scott, going by his past, will yell and aggressively point fingers.

Will be interesting times to see whether more of the latter than the former!

 

[MiguelM]

So first and foremost, it's on the players. Applying the pressure, running both ways, 1%ers, wanting to succeed.

So what makes the current generation of players buy in? Truck attempted to sell the club history.

Scott, going by his past, will yell and aggressively point fingers.

Will be interesting times to see whether more of the latter than the former!

Not sure. Sometimes simplifying things works wonders.

You're right, it is on the players, but the coach has to get their trust, listen to the players and give them some ownership of the "WAY we play" while at the same time not let the tail wag the dog. A very fine line.

No point ranting and pointing fingers if the players despise you. Would be like a bullying boss, makes performance worse.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If you haven't seen anything else today this one is only 5 minutes and sums up the main points really well:


It is an in-house interview so obviously all the questions are dixers, so it's interesting what they specifically want him to talk about:

• Old job: Good to contribute to the game at AFL House, etc etc
• Game plan: The game evolves quickly, looks very different now compared to 5, 6, 7 years ago. Will evolve again. No preconceived ideas about game plan. Wants to get to know players etc. then develop something that suits.
• Development focus: No substitute for experience, but you have to develop that experience in the right way. Invest time into building the program, will take a lot of hard work, young list. Youth means inconsistency. Committed to putting all his time into them and developing them. Building a world class football program. "That's my job".
• Mantra: "You get what you deserve over the long term". You're not entitled to anything. As soon as you start thinking you're entitled you're not going to reach your potential. Have to work for it. [n.b. is this the Scottian equivalent of 'blue collar'?]
• Facilities: First time he's been inside. Amazing, two fantastic ovals, the hangar, it's an incredible opportunity and a blueprint for all future facilities. Excited to be here. Players have the best opportunity to be the best they can be.
• Message to members: Get behind our players, support them. All time and resources will go into making them better and building our football program. Get behind them, get on the journey. It's going to take time, that's the reality, but we have the opportunity and a blank canvas to build something special.

There's also footage of him meeting the players so you can see a few more of them: Jones, Laverde, Durham, Wright, Menzie, Redman, Hind, Brand.
Plus already spotted in the photos earlier: Bryan, Caldwell, Cox, D'Ambrosio, Guelfi, Ham, Heppell, Langford, Parish, Reid, Ridley, Shiel, Wanganeen.

And Nat Wood was there

I’m just amazed that we have a coach that can talk effortlessly for 5 mins.