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Mental health in the age of coronavirus

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Dear posters: unsubstantiated advice will be deleted. We understand you want to help, but #fakenews blah blah blah we're not allowing any disinformation. Got some great advice about washing your hands whilst dancing like David Byrne in Once In A Lifetime helps kill the virus? That's fantastic, provide a link to a reputable source.
 
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Interesting treatment used on two patients:

The doctors tried a drug called Actemra, which was designed to treat rheumatoid arthritis but also approved in 2017 to treat cytokine storms in cancer patients.

"Our role was to quiet the storm," said Dr. Samuel Youssef, a cardiac surgeon. "Dr. Padgett was able to clear the virus" once his immune system was back in balance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/emergency-room-doctor-near-death-054816082.html
 
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not the disease itself killing him but his own immune system.

It had gone haywire and began to attack itself — a syndrome known as a "cytokine storm."

The immune system normally uses proteins called cytokines as weapons in fighting a disease. For unknown reasons in some COVID-19 patients, the immune system first fails to respond quickly enough and then floods the body with cytokines, destroying blood vessels and filling the lungs with fluid.

The doctors tried a drug called Actemra, which was designed to treat rheumatoid arthritis but also approved in 2017 to treat cytokine storms in cancer patients.

"Our role was to quiet the storm," said Dr. Samuel Youssef, a cardiac surgeon. "Dr. Padgett was able to clear the virus" once his immune system was back in balance.


Had heard about cytokines on a podcast and the idea behind fixing the cytokines to give the patient time

Good on him and the medical staff
 
not the disease itself killing him but his own immune system.

It had gone haywire and began to attack itself — a syndrome known as a "cytokine storm."

The immune system normally uses proteins called cytokines as weapons in fighting a disease. For unknown reasons in some COVID-19 patients, the immune system first fails to respond quickly enough and then floods the body with cytokines, destroying blood vessels and filling the lungs with fluid.

The doctors tried a drug called Actemra, which was designed to treat rheumatoid arthritis but also approved in 2017 to treat cytokine storms in cancer patients.

"Our role was to quiet the storm," said Dr. Samuel Youssef, a cardiac surgeon. "Dr. Padgett was able to clear the virus" once his immune system was back in balance.


Had heard about cytokines on a podcast and the idea behind fixing the cytokines to give the patient time

Good on him and the medical staff

Of great importance is that the drug was approved for those storms in 2017.

It means there was an actual REAL study done on its efficacy for that type of immune response.

As opposed to the drug Trump touts
 
This issue though was not just an Aussie thing...it was a western world thing.

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But this requires courage and leadership

Qualities generally lacking in a politician of any country

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Oh Mutineer you're basically a caricature of yourself these days.

From the WHO:


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NZ went into lockdown on March 25th

Scomo was still trying to work out the rules of hairdressing on March 26th

So which part of Jacinda Ardern's response to the pandemic do you disagree with?

Is it where she made the early call and shut down the nation, saving lives?

Or is it something to do with her being a bit left, and you can't stand that someone on the left had a smarter response than someone on the right?

Or is it something to do with her being a her?

Enlighten us why you're hating on someone who saved her country!
 
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Oh Mutineer you're basically a caricature of yourself these days.

From the WHO:


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NZ went into lockdown on March 25th

Scomo was still trying to work out the rules of hairdressing on March 26th

So which part of Jacinda Ardern's response to the pandemic do you disagree with?

Is it where she made the early call and shut down the nation, saving lives?

Or is it something to do with her being a bit left, and you can't stand that someone on the left had a smarter response than someone on the right?

Or is it something to do with her being a her?

Enlighten us why you're hating on someone who saved her country!
She’s done a good job but surely you’d take into account the relative populations when making comparisons?

New Zealeands population is on par with Qld who have had less deaths, New Zealand are now up to 9. Plus NZ has had more cases than Qld and even more than Victoria and only marginally fewer deaths.

Plus a fair whack of our deaths are on NSW Health letting passengers off that ship.

Are NZ still in full lockdown? How’s their economy going?
 
Of course their response was racist - and this government has form in this regard. They have many, many, many years of form.

It is very obvious that their reactions were completely different when they were shutting the brown people out, compared with shutting the white people out.

Racism means treating people of different races differently - and there is no other possible explanation for why Italy & the USA were treated so very differently to China, South Korea & Iran.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not objecting to how quickly they shut the borders to China, South Korea and Iran. Those were the right decisions, and they were implement in a timely manner. The problem is that they allowed their colour vision to dictate their slow response when other countries became the world's epicentres for the disease.
I’m kind of inclined to think the government acted on medical advice on this one. The fact most of our issues came in through the US back door is just because the US were also caught on the hop. We were looking “East” and forgot to look “West”. Rather than a racist thing.
 
I’m kind of inclined to think the government acted on medical advice on this one. The fact most of our issues came in through the US back door is just because the US were also caught on the hop. We were looking “East” and forgot to look “West”. Rather than a racist thing.
I don't know how much of it was racism or just pure incompetence but I would never give them the benefit of the doubt given their history. It's not partisan either, Labor aren't any better in this regard.
 
I’m kind of inclined to think the government acted on medical advice on this one. The fact most of our issues came in through the US back door is just because the US were also caught on the hop. We were looking “East” and forgot to look “West”. Rather than a racist thing.
Even if they were slow because the US were so incompetent that they had no idea how big a problem they had, there was no excuse for failing to close the border to Italians. The only thing different between Italians & Asians: the colour of their skin.

As noted by Mr_Moogle, their track record is such that they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Oh Mutineer you're basically a caricature of yourself these days.

From the WHO:


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NZ went into lockdown on March 25th

Scomo was still trying to work out the rules of hairdressing on March 26th

So which part of Jacinda Ardern's response to the pandemic do you disagree with?

Is it where she made the early call and shut down the nation, saving lives?

Or is it something to do with her being a bit left, and you can't stand that someone on the left had a smarter response than someone on the right?

Or is it something to do with her being a her?

Enlighten us why you're hating on someone who saved her country!
Closing the borders was the right thing to do. I’m not convinced the severity of the lockdown was the right call. Then again that may have been a decision based on the available resources to deal with a higher volume of infections. Whether that be access to PPE and ventilators, or ICU beds, or even trained staff to deal with them.

I still think that the only thing ScoMo should’ve done earlier was to ban flights from the ME, Europe and the US earlier
 
She’s done a good job but surely you’d take into account the relative populations when making comparisons?

New Zealeands population is on par with Qld who have had less deaths, New Zealand are now up to 9. Plus NZ has had more cases than Qld and even more than Victoria and only marginally fewer deaths.

Plus a fair whack of our deaths are on NSW Health letting passengers off that ship.

Are NZ still in full lockdown? How’s their economy going?
How she's perceived overseas won't get her re-elected
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Oh Mutineer you're basically a caricature of yourself these days.

From the WHO:


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NZ went into lockdown on March 25th

Scomo was still trying to work out the rules of hairdressing on March 26th

So which part of Jacinda Ardern's response to the pandemic do you disagree with?

Is it where she made the early call and shut down the nation, saving lives?

Or is it something to do with her being a bit left, and you can't stand that someone on the left had a smarter response than someone on the right?

Or is it something to do with her being a her?

Enlighten us why you're hating on someone who saved her country!
Well we'll find out in September if the New Zealand people feel the same way because then it won't matter one iota how she's perceived overseas.



 
She’s done a good job but surely you’d take into account the relative populations when making comparisons?

New Zealeands population is on par with Qld who have had less deaths, New Zealand are now up to 9. Plus NZ has had more cases than Qld and even more than Victoria and only marginally fewer deaths.

Plus a fair whack of our deaths are on NSW Health letting passengers off that ship.

Are NZ still in full lockdown? How’s their economy going?

Why yes, you'd take into account the relative populations. Queensland is the nearest in population for sure. The population density is very different though - QLD has 2.8 people per square kilometre, NZ has 18. I would expect that's why QLD has had less deaths? There have still been idiot clusters, and they've only been in quarantine for two and a bit weeks, but her early action has I think really made a difference and saved lives.

And yes, a fair whack of our deaths are due to some government idiot - haven't found the scapegoat yet - letting them all off a cruise ship to roam free, which NZ seemed to be smart enough to avoid.

They're still in full lockdown, but they're starting to talk about coming out of it


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the economy will take a whack, but no one knows how much


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I'm glad you've said she's done a good job; still not sure why Mutineer thinks she done a bad one
 
She’s done a good job but surely you’d take into account the relative populations when making comparisons?

New Zealeands population is on par with Qld who have had less deaths, New Zealand are now up to 9. Plus NZ has had more cases than Qld and even more than Victoria and only marginally fewer deaths.

Plus a fair whack of our deaths are on NSW Health letting passengers off that ship.

Are NZ still in full lockdown? How’s their economy going?
Didn't our PM copy NZ's PM when she closed their national border the following day and asked her for advice before doing it.....?
 
How she's perceived overseas won't get her re-elected

Well we'll find out in September if the New Zealand people feel the same way because then it won't matter one iota how she's perceived overseas.




It's like it's an answer to a question that was different to the one that was asked... as usual.

Why don't you like her response to the pandemic Mutineer?

She did a better job than someone else you like?
She's too lefty?
She's a woman?

Is this going to end up another instance of you chucking a wobbly because you don't want to answer a question?
 
How she's perceived overseas won't get her re-elected

Well we'll find out in September if the New Zealand people feel the same way because then it won't matter one iota how she's perceived overseas.



 
Why yes, you'd take into account the relative populations. Queensland is the nearest in population for sure. The population density is very different though - QLD has 2.8 people per square kilometre, NZ has 18. I would expect that's why QLD has had less deaths? There have still been idiot clusters, and they've only been in quarantine for two and a bit weeks, but her early action has I think really made a difference and saved lives.

And yes, a fair whack of our deaths are due to some government idiot - haven't found the scapegoat yet - letting them all off a cruise ship to roam free, which NZ seemed to be smart enough to avoid.

They're still in full lockdown, but they're starting to talk about coming out of it


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I'm glad you've said she's done a good job; still not sure why Mutineer thinks she done a bad one
Nothing wrong with what she's done in her handling of the Covid-19 but all this fapping over her in general is not how she's perceived performance wise at home where she's failed dismally on several of her core election platforms i.e. housing the big one. Polling as of February had NZ Labour trailing the Nats.
The broken election promises of Jacinda Adern are hiding in plain sight.
In the lead-up to the September 2017 election, Labour announced an excellent housing platform that promised to address both supply and demand distortions via negative gearing reform, banning foreign buyers of existing homes, tighter capital gains taxes, removal of urban growth boundaries, plus bond financing for infrastructure.
Labour also promised to reduce immigration by around a third, which would have helped to relieve chronic housing and infrastructure pressures (especially around Auckland), as well as promised to build 100,000 public houses over a decade (named ‘KiwiBuild’).
Sadly, on all almost key areas, Labour has either abandoned these reforms or failed miserably, proving that it is not serious about addressing housing affordability.
For instance, Labour’s promised ‘KiwiBuild’ program to build 100,000 public houses has descended into a farce, with the government abandoning its building target and instead announcing a bunch of demand-side measures that will inflate prices.
Labour abandoned capital gains tax reforms and has back-slid on its promise to abolish Auckland’s urban growth boundary and reform infrastructure financing.
Labour has also abandoned its promised immigration cuts, instead opening the visa sluice gates.
Accordingly, New Zealand house prices have surged to an all-time high and the home ownership rate has cratered to a 70-year low.
It’s clear Ardern betrayed her most central election commitments.
History never repeats but it sure does rhyme.
 
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