Opinion New AFC HQ (Part 2): The wheels are in motion

[Mostyn]

How do we know he doesn’t like the leader? There’s been no comment

I wasn't answering for him.

I think the CFMEU have used some tactics that are definitively bad.

But I'm pro union.

 

[flashcrow]

SANFL get green light for $27 million Football Park move - InDaily

The City of Charles Sturt has approved the SANFL moving back to its old home at Football Park, which allows the Crows to move to Thebarton.

www.indaily.com.au

 

[George Kramer]

I wasn't answering for him.

I think the CFMEU have used some tactics that are definitively bad.

But I'm pro union.

You responded to my question to him…..

 

[Crow till I die]

Unions have their place (look at the labour market in America...'at will employment' LMAO). There's a power disparity they go a long way to addressing. Also not sure 'you need legal permission to strike' is a good thing given that.

There's a difference between that and using the power of unions to threaten or abuse individuals acting in their company's interest, threaten people into acting with the union, or companies not involved in the dispute, which Setka does.

The fines against the CFMEU (that McBurnie would have been responsible for, for example:

Yes to this. Unions absolutely have a place but like most things balance is needed.

A personal story from many years ago when i had a short stint (only time ever) at a Local Authority. The EB agreement was up for renewal and management were pressing for a 1 + 2 (%) rise while the union was pushing for a 4 + 4. Anyway, off to the town hall for the big meeting with all management, ceo, staff and the union.

The ceo, who was a really nice guy, got up and explained how productivity had not warranted a 4 + 4 etc and he laid out a pretty good argument. The first people to get up and congratulate the ceo was the union rep. The union rep then said just before i go on, i want you all to know the ceo just had a 21% pay increase and the senior managers 15%.

Needless to say management sat down red faced. From memory the final deal was a 2 + 3.

 

[radiojake]

So what’s your thoughts on the thugs blackmail?

What do my thoughts about Setka have to do with what my point was?

I don't actually like the current delegate of my own union - I think he is an unimpressive man who exaggerates and talks shit. I didn't vote for him and next election I will hope he loses - Doesn't mean I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater and dismissing unions all together

 

[George Kramer]

What do my thoughts about Setka have to do with what my point was?

I don't actually like the current delegate of my own union - I think he is an unimpressive man who exaggerates and talks shit. I didn't vote for him and next election I will hope he loses - Doesn't mean I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater and dismissing unions all together

This started with Setkas blackmailing the AFL, this type of behaviour is why a lot of people have issues with the union.

I asked your opinion and you didn’t answer, curious what your opinion is given this is in relation to football and we are on a football forum

 

[radiojake]

This started with Setkas blackmailing the AFL, this type of behaviour is why a lot of people have issues with the union.

I asked your opinion and you didn’t answer, curious what your opinion is given this is in relation to football and we are on a football forum

Egotistical dude who loves the spotlight in a high position throws his weight around for attention and clout

Whether they are in private industry, politics, or unions, they are the same ilk ; just different sides

 

[jo172]

The thing is he wont achieve anything. Legally Septka has no leg to stand on and if work gets disrupted through him calling snap strikes, he will not succeed. If those strikes are illegal the workers can lose their jobs. This could actually see him removed. Could be his jump the shark moment.

He's not threatening strikes though, he's threatening work to rule

 

[Mostyn]

He's not threatening strikes though, he's threatening work to rule

To be honest, I thought this was pretty much what happened normally.

 

[GreyCrow]

Yeah I agree

Unions definitely have their place, but there needs to be a healthy balance.

When clowns like Setka and the CFMEU constantly act like standover men it does unionism zero favours. That sort of crap becomes a lightning rod to those who push the anti union message and damages the reputation of the whole industry.

If you think football has a lot of brown paper bag deals ask John why he had a Visy contract to get rid of all of his

 

[StonesThrow]

Politics thread where you can discuss black and white viewpoints as much as you want.

 

[dogs105]

Unions are good.


Bringing umpiring into it is nuts

 

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SANFL get green light for $27 million Football Park move - InDaily

The City of Charles Sturt has approved the SANFL moving back to its old home at Football Park, which allows the Crows to move to Thebarton.

www.indaily.com.au

Interesting mock up in the article.

The image has the Crows current facility with SANFL branding all over it.

Surely we're not giving the SANFL our current facility along with 9 million dollars are we

 

[dogs105]

Interesting mock up in the article.

The image has the Crows current facility with SANFL branding all over it.

Surely we're not giving the SANFL our current facility along with 9 million dollars are we

There wouldn't be much point in knocking it down to spite them, would there?

 

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There wouldn't be much point in knocking it down to spite them, would there?

No but I was always under the assumption that we'd receive some sort of financial return on it whether it's through a long term lease etc

 

[flashcrow]

Interesting mock up in the article.

The image has the Crows current facility with SANFL branding all over it.

Surely we're not giving the SANFL our current facility along with 9 million dollars are we

Not until we are ready to move into our new home.

 

[MatthewB]

Interesting mock up in the article.

The image has the Crows current facility with SANFL branding all over it.

Surely we're not giving the SANFL our current facility along with 9 million dollars are we

this is from the council agenda from the other night, it appears they are building something on the other side and the AFC headquarters is becoming residential land

 

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this is from the council agenda from the other night, it appears they are building something on the other side and the AFC headquarters is becoming residential land

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That's a relief, hopefully we're getting a return on this land to help offset some of the cost.

Thanks for clearing that up

 

[feenix67]

You responded to my question to him…..

Haven't come up with wage growth stats yet? Don't be a Waynus

 

[kirky]

Chief executive salaries rose by an average of 14% in the past financial year, according to the latest annual report from the Governance Institute of Australia. While general staff working at listed companies received average fixed pay increases of about 5% over the past 12 months.

Yeah it's definitely those unions doing the damage......

Yes, executives are worth every cent.

Absolute twaddle.

Most executives of companies are overpaid. Most senior management is overpaid.

As a mate found out yesterday, it isn’t what you know or whether you are qualified, it is who you know.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

So how do we 'accidentally' get rid of all the trees at Thebarton now?

 

[El Doederino]

Remember the names

 

[Gtowncrow]

Has there been a potential timeline to completion and moving in once approval is final? 1 year? 2 years? Etc..

 

[flashcrow]

Has there been a potential timeline to completion and moving in once approval is final? 1 year? 2 years? Etc..

Olsen said: "(Build Start) The first of September (2024) and a two-year build, moving into the site in September/October of 2026."

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Has that chick who runs the 50 whatever group started her political career yet?