NFNL Div 3 2019

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I think that would make things rather difficult for teams coming down. However whatever keeps the division competitive and gives battling clubs a chance is a tick for local footy

Would any club other than PH go anywhere near that?

I wonder how many clubs will be affected by the likely change from 16 to 18 games next year... as another poster commented, players are already being signed for 2020 so it'll be interesting to see how clubs respond to this, I can imagine it won't be favourable.
 
Unreal. Well done to south.

Imagine if they won from here
I agree. Didn't expect it at all. They have been breathing down the neck of a promotion the last couple of seasons but well played on beating a red hot Laurimar
 

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From the games I’ve seen this year I’d bloody well hope not
Great season from your guys to get both seniors and reserves into finals even though not winning a final across both grades would be disappointing still it’s a fantastic achievement.

Which south Morang turns up next week? Gotta think PH will be too strong and will gain promotion.
 
I thought Laurimar looked quite good against Panton Hill.

South Morang a huge chance

When’s the last time both the seniors and reserves challengers have been beaten by over 100 points during the year?

Unbelievable. If South are better than Laurimar then Panton Hill better be ready
 
Heard a rumour, but will not name names, as I don't wish to cast aspersions on any club unless I know it to be fact.
Hopefully this isn't the case, would be a poor look on any administration (club or league level) if we are still having this occur.
Be far worse if it's a grand finallist, although high unlikely surely to christ?

On another topic, pOpOtAm has again posted on the EDFL pages that Desi will coach Coburg Districts. If this man Fletcher does step into coach Mernda then pOpOtAm may be a lot closer than he has originally acknowledged ;):p

Must say good on him if true, as he's a passionate local football person who obviously wants to stay involved and keep contributing to the game however he can ... although I'll be equally spewing ha ha!!!
For me it still appears that the biggest mistake the 2013 Kilmore FC committee has made was not giving Paul the respect of a sit down when he expressed interest in coaching the club in 2014.
 
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Panton Hill will be hoping they win the flag this week to allow their stars to stay and be within the cap. With a potential 18 round season next year and a cap reduction to $80k don’t see how their list will stay under $4500 a game
 

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Panton Hill will be hoping they win the flag this week to allow their stars to stay and be within the cap. With a potential 18 round season next year and a cap reduction to $80k don’t see how their list will stay under $4500 a game
I thought 16 games was great for division 3. The best teams were sorted by then and it’s just much easier for clubs.

Not sure why they wouldn’t announce salary changes much earlier than now.
 
Just putting it out there what's everyone's thoughts on training and work life with young kids coming into senior footy. If a young bloke is having to work and has to miss training would you drop him or give the the benefit of the doubt if they have contacted the coach with a valid reason? It's been a discussion point around a few clubs and I have my opinion just want to hear what this forum has to offer.
Good luck to Morang and Hilliers this weekend.
 
Just putting it out there what's everyone's thoughts on training and work life with young kids coming into senior footy. If a young bloke is having to work and has to miss training would you drop him or give the the benefit of the doubt if they have contacted the coach with a valid reason? It's been a discussion point around a few clubs and I have my opinion just want to hear what this forum has to offer.
Good luck to Morang and Hilliers this weekend.
Depends... if he trains regularly and this is a once off then I’d believe him.

If he has a new excuse every week then again that would be a different story.

There isn’t a one size fits all but it’s usually the same blokes making the same excuses i find.

Depends what job as well.

Depends is the kid of $800 a game or $50

But no missing training because of work doesn’t mean instant dropping
 
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That’s a stick, not a solution.

Regardless if you owe one dollar or ten thousand / you meet the obligations.

If clubs that do are at a disadvantage of those that don’t then the league is supporting bad behaviour and helping them fudge the salary cap.
Interesting discussion from January 31...
 
Just putting it out there what's everyone's thoughts on training and work life with young kids coming into senior footy. If a young bloke is having to work and has to miss training would you drop him or give the the benefit of the doubt if they have contacted the coach with a valid reason? It's been a discussion point around a few clubs and I have my opinion just want to hear what this forum has to offer.
Good luck to Morang and Hilliers this weekend.

I think it is pretty straight forward if anyone wether they are a young bloke or a older bloke, work comes first, unless you are asking for extreme amounts of money.

As long as there not taking the piss and they genuinely are working then a footy club has to work around that, and the fellas are doing a bit when they can, there form will show this anyway and if it starts to drop away then have a spell back in the ressies..

We should be doing everything we can to keep young blokes in the game and not make them make choices between work and footy..

Otherwise footy loses, every time !

But if the coach doesn’t share that view and has punished other blokes for the same thing, then maybe he should rethink his philosophy about keeping people in our game.

Or he is happy with what he is doing and then he can’t pick and choose who the rules relate to.

But personally let them play work around anyone with genuine work commitments as long as there not getting paid extravagant amounts from the club, and there form is holding up..!

But be across the board with everyone from your first picked seniors player till the player last in your list in your under19’s..!


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Interesting discussion from January 31...
Running a footy club is like running a small business, 400K turnover, employees etc. There can be a range of reasons why you can't service any of your suppliers trading terms, not just NFNL. Delays in sponsor monies coming through, poor results means less supporters turning up & bar/canteen sales down Vs forecast turnover. For the league to threaten pay by set time or we will drop your salary cap even further for following season means you put your other creditors under pressure - players, coaches, club staff, bar/canteen suppliers etc. This just shows you how far removed from club land that nfnl management are. Maybe the league could reduce some of their profit margins i.e: 25% mark up on jumpers for starters & you're forced to buy from their approved suppliers. Or maybe work with clubs (not just Div 1), instead of the salary cap reduction & further threat of sanctions for 2020 laid on clubs on 29/08, that conversation could of been April or May. Yes clubs should work within their financial restraints & service all their suppliers trading terms, but don't move the goal posts mid stream. Everyone working in club land want their club successful both on & off field & work towards that every day.
 
Running a footy club is like running a small business, 400K turnover, employees etc. There can be a range of reasons why you can't service any of your suppliers trading terms, not just NFNL. Delays in sponsor monies coming through, poor results means less supporters turning up & bar/canteen sales down Vs forecast turnover. For the league to threaten pay by set time or we will drop your salary cap even further for following season means you put your other creditors under pressure - players, coaches, club staff, bar/canteen suppliers etc. This just shows you how far removed from club land that nfnl management are. Maybe the league could reduce some of their profit margins i.e: 25% mark up on jumpers for starters & you're forced to buy from their approved suppliers. Or maybe work with clubs (not just Div 1), instead of the salary cap reduction & further threat of sanctions for 2020 laid on clubs on 29/08, that conversation could of been April or May. Yes clubs should work within their financial restraints & service all their suppliers trading terms, but don't move the goal posts mid stream. Everyone working in club land want their club successful both on & off field & work towards that every day.
I agree with Ben here.

I personally think all league debts should be paid for prior to finals unless otherwise agreed upon.

Clubs need to operate within their means. Imagine if a club just didn't pay their fee's and instead recruit a couple of $500 a week guns. More or less using the leagues money to pay for a finals victory.

Yes correct your creditors should be under pressure and should take cuts because you are operating unrealistically. If you get to halfway and realize you can't pay your debts do what many clubs have done before and tell the players you'll cut their pay or they can walk before clearances.

Why should the league absorb a clubs debt why they continue operating unrealistically
 
I agree with Ben here.

I personally think all league debts should be paid for prior to finals unless otherwise agreed upon.

Clubs need to operate within their means. Imagine if a club just didn't pay their fee's and instead recruit a couple of $500 a week guns. More or less using the leagues money to pay for a finals victory.

Yes correct your creditors should be under pressure and should take cuts because you are operating unrealistically. If you get to halfway and realize you can't pay your debts do what many clubs have done before and tell the players you'll cut their pay or they can walk before clearances.

Why should the league absorb a clubs debt why they continue operating unrealistically
Who said anything about the league absorbing a club's debt?
If you run a small business you manage/communicate with all your suppliers when you may have some cash flow issues, even the ones that want to come & wield a big stick.
I agree with this statement of yrs "I personally think all league debts should be paid for prior to finals unless otherwise agreed upon" so salary cap was 90 K , agreed by all clubs in Div3, last Thurs the league reduced it to 80K with no consultation & to add icing, threatening to reduce clubs salary cap further if not completely financial before Oct 31.
If you're a Div 3 club & signed players before last week's notice from the league, you would of based your financial agreements on the known playing budget of 90K not the 80K, an 11% decrease. The league moved the goal posts mid stream.
 
Who said anything about the league absorbing a club's debt?
If you run a small business you manage/communicate with all your suppliers when you may have some cash flow issues, even the ones that want to come & wield a big stick.
I agree with this statement of yrs "I personally think all league debts should be paid for prior to finals unless otherwise agreed upon" so salary cap was 90 K , agreed by all clubs in Div3, last Thurs the league reduced it to 80K with no consultation & to add icing, threatening to reduce clubs salary cap further if not completely financial before Oct 31.
If you're a Div 3 club & signed players before last week's notice from the league, you would of based your financial agreements on the known playing budget of 90K not the 80K, an 11% decrease. The league moved the goal posts mid stream.
Spot on here, salary cap deductions should be given to clubs a year earlier for planning.
 
Who said anything about the league absorbing a club's debt?
If you run a small business you manage/communicate with all your suppliers when you may have some cash flow issues, even the ones that want to come & wield a big stick.
I agree with this statement of yrs "I personally think all league debts should be paid for prior to finals unless otherwise agreed upon" so salary cap was 90 K , agreed by all clubs in Div3, last Thurs the league reduced it to 80K with no consultation & to add icing, threatening to reduce clubs salary cap further if not completely financial before Oct 31.
If you're a Div 3 club & signed players before last week's notice from the league, you would of based your financial agreements on the known playing budget of 90K not the 80K, an 11% decrease. The league moved the goal posts mid stream.
Agreed. Hence if i said "unless agreed upon"

The league should be given records to see where the issues are.
 
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