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Player Watch Nick Daicos - Can he be the GOAT?
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Yep, because a BigFooty thread will place so much more pressure on him than being a handy footballer with the surname 'Daicos' ever did...
He seemed to deal pretty well with that 'pressure and expectation'.
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Bont, Petracca and Butters were better players than Nick in 2023. I’d have rated Nick’s season fourth best. Bont and Butters are both hard as nails and courageous to go with everything else they bring to the table for their team. Petracca was brilliant to lead Demons to top-4 with Oliver out. Naicos is pure silk, with a game that relies on handball receives and kick outs. He was able to shine very brightly in the top team of 2023.
Taking Butters as an example … he is as skilled with his kicking as Naicos. He’s as fast if not faster. His agility is equal. He’s a better mark. And he’s as tough and courageous as any player in the competition.
Naicos gets more involved via handball receives, and maybe has a bigger tank than Butters, not sure? He plays around 5% more time on ground.
But to the naked eye Butters does not seem to have a weakness in his game… and he’s brutal at the contest.
Not sure there’s anything Naicos does right now that’s superior to Butters beyond handball receives and kick outs? Yet Butters does plenty vastly superior to Naicos.
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Bahaha ….
. Tim Kelly … bahahahahahaMartin v Kelly 2019:
Disposals: 26.1 v 25.4
Goals: 1.4 v 1.0
Goal assists: 1.0 v 0.7
SI’s: 7.3 v 6.3
I50’s: 5.6 v 4.4
Player rating: 16.77 v 13.88
Coaches votes: 3.91 v 3.76
B’low votes: 1.09 v 1.05
DE%: 66.2 v 65.0
Metres gained: 458 v 446
CP: 10.6 v 11.7
Centre clearances: 2.4 v 2.2
Total cl: 4.3 v 5.9
Marks: 4.2 v 3.6
CM: 0.8 v 0.0
So Martin averaged more coaches votes, more Brownlow votes, got more of the ball, was involved in way more goals and scores… and he capped off the season with the Gary Ayres award and Norm Smith…. but there’s just too much of a gap to rank his season up there with Tim Kelly’s ..
because Gil and friends are too dumb to put him in the AA team…
That’s one of your best Fadge, one of your best.
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Think he might have a couple of good games coming up Bris, Hawks.
Bris choked in the GF but I don’t think they’ll come out looking for contact or to make amends.
Mitchell might try and structure like others have this season against Coll but he doesn’t have alotve exp on hand.
Things might get a little fair dinkum for Nic with the Port, Bombers and Carlton after that.
Let’s see how he goes…shouldn’t be any trouble for someone who is “the greatest ball user in history” and on his way to becoming the Greatest Of All Time.
Bris choked in the GF but I don’t think they’ll come out looking for contact or to make amends.
Mitchell might try and structure like others have this season against Coll but he doesn’t have alotve exp on hand.
Things might get a little fair dinkum for Nic with the Port, Bombers and Carlton after that.
Let’s see how he goes…shouldn’t be any trouble for someone who is “the greatest ball user in history” and on his way to becoming the Greatest Of All Time.
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You forgot the point about the Richmond coaching staff considering him outside the top 5 for his own team across the home and away season....Bahaha ….
Martin v Kelly 2019:
Disposals: 26.1 v 25.4
Goals: 1.4 v 1.0
Goal assists: 1.0 v 0.7
SI’s: 7.3 v 6.3
I50’s: 5.6 v 4.4
Player rating: 16.77 v 13.88
Coaches votes: 3.91 v 3.76
B’low votes: 1.09 v 1.05
DE%: 66.2 v 65.0
Metres gained: 458 v 446
CP: 10.6 v 11.7
Centre clearances: 2.4 v 2.2
Total cl: 4.3 v 5.9
Marks: 4.2 v 3.6
CM: 0.8 v 0.0
So Martin averaged more coaches votes, more Brownlow votes, got more of the ball, was involved in way more goals and scores… and he capped off the season with the Gary Ayres award and Norm Smith…. but there’s just too much of a gap to rank his season up there with Tim Kelly’s ..
because Gil and friends are too dumb to put him in the AA team…
That’s one of your best Fadge, one of your best.
Let’s not forget the job Finn did on ND in the Haw/Coll game last year. With an elite runner on his back shoulder last year ND had a handful of possessions before being shuffled off to the forward line and getting himself injured late in the game.
Surely Mitchell will do the same this time around
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A GOAT? Not even in the top 50 performing players so far this year
A GOAT? Not even in the top 50 performing players so far this year
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We all know you are struggling when you start posting in this manner
Will watch will interest to see if Nicki has enough courage to put his head over the pill and actually make a statement
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Nicki boy wouldn't have lasted 2 years trying to carry a club out of a dark era like Cripps has. He'd have retired the minute he was asked to be the primary ball winner for his team instead of being fed the ball all day
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Like Sydney and Geelong, we're never down for long.
Just like we're now meant to be three years in to a 5 year period in the bottom four.... that's what we were all reliably informed at the end of 2021.
When you play in one third of all Grand Finals ever played, you're never down for long....
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And Pies coaching staff rated Nick’s 2023 season inferior to his brother, equal to Maynard and just a smidge better than Tom Mitchell…
Keep the hits coming Fadge, you’re on fire.
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Where is the youth that's going to save Nicki from having to carry a load like Cripps has had to when Pendles, Sideybottom, Howe etc retire?
You had Moore, Quaynor, Josh and Nick come into the team which helped regenerate the list despite a lot of veterans still being there but there's no high end Father Son prospects in the Pies short term horizons and even you'd have to admit most of those veterans are about to have to hang the boots up.
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Which would be a fair call out, though Martin missed fewer games than Daicos did in 2023, failed to make the AA team, and finished far lower in his club B&F.And Pies coaching staff rated Nick’s 2023 season inferior to his brother, equal to Maynard and just a smidge better than Tom Mitchell…
Keep the hits coming Fadge, you’re on fire.
Nice try.
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A polished turd is still a turd.
This is like me saying Ginnivan has been very good for a Hawthorn player.
Cripps carried the club out of a dark era? Stacks of high draft picks, much better FA/trade management in recent years, recruiting King Voss and Curnow developing into a superstar have done that.
Cripps has been excellent in poor teams though (moreso than Martin for instance) which is a plus.
Daicos would need another year or two in the gym to perform the role you describe, or else he'd be getting pinballed like Jhye Clark is currently.
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“Notwithstanding the fact that players like GAJ and N. Daicos get so many possessions that they actually generally rack up more contested possessions than 99% of other players in the competition..“
I think that’s my favourite part of the OP.
It’s pretty accurate except for that Daicos bit
I think that’s my favourite part of the OP.
It’s pretty accurate except for that Daicos bit
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