And yet Daicos is so far from GOAT that it's laughable. Let's talk about this in another 12 years. Until that time, LeBron can be spoken about as GOAT and Daicos is just a gun young player.
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And yet Daicos is so far from GOAT that it's laughable. Let's talk about this in another 12 years. Until that time, LeBron can be spoken about as GOAT and Daicos is just a gun young player.
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why bother wait 12 years
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Who was this big KPP or ruck who won the flag for us last year?
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Well someone can't be declared as a GOAT in their 3rd season nor in there 4th or 5th or 6th season. Have to at least wait for 8th to 10th season.
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the GOAT had 29 and a goal at the age of 20
There were only really 2 truly amazing ruckmen of the 21st century and that is Cox and Gawn. If you have an average ruck against an average ruck it is okay but if you have two reasonably even teams you can bet Gawn or Cox would push the ledger towards the team they are playing for.
Also to be the best of all time you need to clearly, clearly be the best in the competition.
Look at Daicos vs Gulden. Now you may argue Daicos is better based on those stats, but you can't in good faith argue that the stats are that different
Look at Daicos vs Gulden. Now you may argue Daicos is better based on those stats, but you can't in good faith argue that the stats are that different
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Gulden is a soft outside receiver please don’t compare him to the GOAT again
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Darcy Moore lead the league by a mile in that stat, are you arguing he is the GOAT?
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Stats are very rarely ever considered in determining these things I’ve learnt
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The Gulden comparison doesn't track. Daicos wins easily. He has almost double the clearances and contested possessions per game, and those stats matter. No one cares that Daicos averages slightly more effective disposals, tackles, or goals. It was his clearance work that set him apart this year.
On an aside note - anyone who doesn't have Gary Ablett Jnr as the current GOAT is kidding themselves. He regularly had 35+ disposals and kicked 4 - 5 goals for the Suns when they couldn't win a game.
On an aside note - anyone who doesn't have Gary Ablett Jnr as the current GOAT is kidding themselves. He regularly had 35+ disposals and kicked 4 - 5 goals for the Suns when they couldn't win a game.
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Do you know what actions are "one percenters"?
and yet despite having more disposals Gulden has more metres gained, more rebound 50's, more inside 50's, more score involvements and more goal assists.
As for Daicos's clearance work, Champion Data said Daicos was outside of the top 100 players in disposal efficiency when he was in the centre, and based on his centre work he would not even be in the AA team.
Knock-ons, spoils, smothers, and shepherds, all of which are things that soft players would not get too involved in, and yet despite playing more on the outside where those things would be harder to do, Gulden got more of them than Daicos.
Great season by Nicky but lmao at that salty bitch Scott thinking he was praising him by saying Heeney was only good enough to finish 3rd without acknowledging he played 2 less games, one due to a soft suspension and the other because we dominated the season so much he didn't have to.
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Daicos is second in the comp for centre clearances. You would hope Gulden has more metres gained, rebound 50s, and inside 50s. He plays as an outside receiver far more than Daicos, so (and the stats agree) he kicks the ball much more. Though the difference between score involvement and goal assist is peanuts, I am not sure why you bothered to argue that. The difference is like me saying Daicos kicks more goals—he does, but not by enough to care.
I'm taking the almost double clearance/contested possessions over Gulden's stats every day of the week.
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How is that evidence? If Mcrae is persistently overvoting his pet, then there's your difference between Daicos and the Bont right there. I'd agree that they've been 1 and 2 over the last two years, but I'd argue Bont has been better. I think the Players MVP is usually most accurate compared to Coaches or Brownlow.
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No 3rd year player has had a record like that, the numbers speak for themselves
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Edit, should read playing and losing a final.
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