No premiership side has ever played together again

[kickazz]

The 'never again' rule applies to regular life as well- any time there's 22 people in a room together, they will never be reunited again.

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School classrooms?
Offices?
Parliament house during a division?

 

[Silent Alarm]

I would have thought injuries would prevent this from ever happening.

If Richmond were to actually pull this off, you would have to give a huge amount of credit to their fitness dept.

No. Luck.

 

[STFU Donnie]

It sounds astonishing at first but probably not that surprising when you realise that even good sides tend to use at least 30 players for each season.

I know it's simplistic because it ignores structures and quality, etc but there's already (if my memory of high school maths serves me correctly) about 6 million different ways you can pick 22 players from a base of even 30 ( 30 factorial / (22 factorial * 8 factorial) )

Based on that I'd be willing to bet there's many combinations of every team throughout every year that we never see again.

Still, it sounds impressive when you hear it.

Correct! 5,852,925 to be precise.

And if you increase the base to 32, the total number of combinations jumps to 64,512,240.

 

[Plugger46]

School classrooms?
Offices?
Parliament house during a division?

Can say i was in a classroom with the same s**theads every day for multiple semeseters

 

[99cents]

School classrooms?
Offices?
Parliament house during a division?

someone sick from school?
there's always someone in the toilet in an office.
politicians aren't human so I'm not counting them!

 

[99cents]

Much like the 22 women I shagged in one night at Twister nightclub back in 2004. I never saw the same 22 again...

only 21- one of them moved back to Latvia!

 

[wowlace]

This isn't surprising at all.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

No. Luck.

If it's all luck based, clubs may as well not even employ fitness experts.

 

[PP34]

Not really that surprising. The game has 22 players so the chances of having those exact 22 available and worth picking the year after in a grand final would be incredibly slim.

Even in the NBA with only 5 people on the court it doesn’t always happen.

I think it also shows that arguments fans constantly make about having their best 22 don’t really hold a lot of merit. Even premiership sides typically have someone missing through injury, then maybe an inexperienced player or two. That’s why when they repeat you don’t see the same team. Someone’s form has fallen away or somebody else isn’t injured the next year.

 

[PP34]

No. Luck.

Luck does play a part. No amount of preparation and prevention can stop a bloke landing funny and breaking a bone obviously.

But what the club does definitely does play a role. Avoiding drafting certain players, ensuring players aren’t overworked, ensuring their bodies are strong allover, giving them the proper amount of time off when they do a hamstring and other things can all keep players on the field.

I look at a team like GWS the last two years and think that it’s clearly a lot more than just bad luck.

 

[Yianni]

Anyone know what proportion of premiership teams have no retirements?

I reckon that alone would disqualify about 75% of them.


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[Bunk Moreland]

And the stat survives yet again...

The Dees went close but Jackson has now left.

Selwood has retired from this year's side.

So it rolls on for at least 12 more months.

 

[adammania9]

Hardly a remarkable stat. How often does any same 22 (23 now) get out together in different seasons - not just the premiership team?

 

[Aussie_boy]

Hardly a remarkable stat. How often does any same 22 (23 now) get out together in different seasons - not just the premiership team?

Happened once apparently, Dogs 05/06

 

[Ricketz]

We love comparing premiership sides and we rightly praise players for being part of a side that won the most important game of all. We often think about changing sides in terms of how many of their premiership players are still in the team (for example, pretty much the entire spine of the 2016 Bulldogs premiership side is gone now).

But I was astonished to read that, since the league's inception, the exact lineup of players to win a flag has never, ever played a game together again. Combinations of injuries, retirements and departures have always prevented the premiership players from taking to the field again.

With a short injury list and few departures, could Richmond be the first club ever to field a complete premiership side again?

Richmond closing in on unprecedented AFL first

(Disclaimer: I'm not the article author)

I'd be surprised if any team didn't lose one or two players from one year to the next - I am not sure this is really that amazing.

But I CBF checking, so

 

[Boxhead_31]

And the stat survives yet again...

The Dees went close but Jackson has now left.

Selwood has retired from this year's side.

So it rolls on for at least 12 more months.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Ginnivan set to be traded. Stat remains unbroken.

 

[BigVic]

Ginnivan set to be traded. Stat remains unbroken.

Amazing stat continuing for the last 126 years of VFL/AFL footy

 

[banzai]

Amazing stat continuing for the last 126 years of VFL/AFL footy

It is amazing. But how many times has the exact same team been fielded in a different season at all regardless of them being Premiers or not? Has it ever happened? Just because if a premier has never done it, surely other teams are less likely as they would all be making more changes over the off season than the Premier.

edit: just found the thread. It's only ever happened once.

AFL: How often does exactly the same line-up play together?

AFL: How often does exactly the same line-up play together? At the start of a season it’s natural for fans to pencil in their side’s “best 22” and then hope for that specific combination of 22 team-mates to actually play together fairly regularly. Sure, there’s injuries, and sometimes even...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[parano1a]

If Exhibition games count, the 1990 Collingwood premiership side played Essendon at the Oval in London 8 days after winning the Grand Final. Half the team was apparently hungover on match day but the Pies still won.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

, like the fact that last year's GF was the first ever not to feature a player that had played in a grand final before.

It can’t be the first.
What about the very first GF ever played?

 

[NetworkNerd]

With JoeD rumoured to retire, it looks like this will continue

 

[cactuscall]

who cares

Yeah, a fairly underwhelming stat with the amount of team changes week to week let alone year to year.

 

[BigVic]

This thread lives!