No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 3

[W W Biscuit]

With Kelly going home, Dangerfield and Tuohy hitting 30, and Sellwood, Ablett, Taylor and Hawkins going further into the 30s, hard to see Geelong staying up there next year. Can see them going for broke in trade season, or the cliff will arrive quickly

The Cats have done remarkably well with a poor draft hand over the past few years. Guys like Stewart, Miers, Ratugolea and others were all drafted with picks in the forties and fifties. I'd say they are lucky - or very shrewd - to have had a few good hits with such ordinary picks. But you wouldn't think that will last. IMO, they desperately need to get some young top-end talent into the club through the draft. Importing players from other clubs will only work for as long as they continue to have a healthy strike rate later in the draft - and even if they do, it remains to be seen as to whether this strategy will take them all the way. Geelong are a couple of ordinary drafts away from plummeting to the depths of the ladder. Will their luck hold?

 

[Norm De Guerre]

When Geelong have gone cap in hand to various governments over the years to redevelop their ground, they probably should've spent some of that vote buying cash to find a way to change the grounds actual dimensions and worried a little less about building monuments to their good fortune of being in a swinging electorate. It may be great for the voters, for beating up on shit sides and for fluffing their win loss ratio, but in reality it seems to be an albatross around their neck when it comes to playing away from home and in particular the location of "the big dance" at the G.

IIRC they've one one game away from home since the bye.

 

[Yojimbo]

Brad Crouch my new favourite player 666 disposals for the year.

 

[Igloo]

My view is that rather than dig in and see something through he took the easy way out. But, I guess that the modern way.

Look at all the great players that played their entire careers without barely playing a final let alone a flag.

Free agency sees the rich get richer and poor get poorer.

I felt quite happy for Lynch last night, honestly. It's been blow after blow for GC, it would be so demoralising to be a young kid coming through the club from inception, through to basically only one year (even just half a year) of actual decent football, only to drop down to the bottom again.
He stuck with them a lot longer than plenty of other players. He tried his best. He captained the club when another captain left. If I were him i'd be wanting to leave as well. Good on him for taking a great contract to a club that was performing well, and now he's kicked 5 in a prelim to get into a grand final.
Think of the huge difference between what he's experienced in the last two years compared to his entire football career before then. He'd be loving life now.
Free agency gives players the choice where they want to play. I don't think he's done much wrong in exercising that right. Especially when he's been playing for Gold Coast of all teams.

 

[Freshwater]

When Geelong have gone cap in hand to various governments over the years to redevelop their ground, they probably should've spent some of that vote buying cash to find a way to change the grounds actual dimensions and worried a little less about building monuments to their good fortune of being in a swinging electorate. It may be great for the voters, for beating up on s**t sides and for fluffing their win loss ratio, but in reality it seems to be an albatross around their neck when it comes to playing away from home and in particular the location of "the big dance" at the G.

IIRC they've one one game away from home since the bye.

I live near Kardinia Park and has watched in disbelief how my taxes and rates have gone into a potentially great stadium. But they made it so long and skinny. From each end the viewing is terrible as we are too far away. Great viewing from the wings but not great for playing footy. They had plenty of room to develop westward. They chose to be their own traditional Kardinia Park shape, ego? And not go wider like great Aussie rules fields. Kardinia Park was not Geelong’s traditional home, the club is over 150 years old but have only been at KP for half that time. Look at what WA have done with the magnificent Perth stadium. KP is wrecked for cricket too, and in the Big Bash they have to have the pitch on an angle. When a club is given literally hundreds of millions of dollars, surely there needs to be some accountability on decisions made. And it should’ve been set up for many sports.

 

[The Buck]

I'll second that. And when exactly did a shot 'at' goal become a shot 'on' goal? McAvaney is the first commentator that I can remember using it - he seems to champion Americanisms. I'm not a fan at all.

Yes, and DEfence and OFFence and "on the park." I hate it when people slavishly adopt American jargon when we have our own rich cultural and language traditions. But, of course, like, I want to be like awesome and like, cool and not a douche bag or like, a jerk homies and dudes.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

I live near Kardinia Park and has watched in disbelief how my taxes and rates have gone into a potentially great stadium. But they made it so long and skinny. From each end the viewing is terrible as we are too far away. Great viewing from the wings but not great for playing footy. They had plenty of room to develop westward. They chose to be their own traditional Kardinia Park shape, ego? And not go wider like great Aussie rules fields. Kardinia Park was not Geelong’s traditional home, the club is over 150 years old but have only been at KP for half that time. Look at what WA have done with the magnificent Perth stadium. KP is wrecked for cricket too, and in the Big Bash they have to have the pitch on an angle. When a club is given literally hundreds of millions of dollars, surely there needs to be some accountability on decisions made. And it should’ve been set up for many sports.

One never lets accountability get in the way of a pig heading towards the trough.

Its quite odd, as I understand it Whitten Oval and Kardinia Park once had very similar dimensions and even though our issues were derived by the grounds proximity to Gordon street, Ive never understood why Kardinia Park is the way it is. At least we had the good sense to alter and bring the playing surface into line with the dimensions of the ground where we play football for the most part. The only reason that I can think of that they never have is because of the colossal advantage that the gain from playing on an elongated sausage. I wonder if in time or indeed today they might come to regret it.

 

[bobs head soup]

For a junior game, this TAC final is very high standard. A lot of these kids look AFL ready and the game styles and defensive work is as good as some AFL games I've seen this year.

 

[Chicago1]

Please stop talking about "The Big Dance". Every time I read that I think of this:

 

[weltschmerz]

Jeez what a quarter from the Chargers.

 

[Testekill]

Jeez what a quarter from the Chargers.

Blood in the water

 

[ossie_21]

I felt quite happy for Lynch last night, honestly. It's been blow after blow for GC, it would be so demoralising to be a young kid coming through the club from inception, through to basically only one year (even just half a year) of actual decent football, only to drop down to the bottom again.
He stuck with them a lot longer than plenty of other players. He tried his best. He captained the club when another captain left. If I were him i'd be wanting to leave as well. Good on him for taking a great contract to a club that was performing well, and now he's kicked 5 in a prelim to get into a grand final.
Think of the huge difference between what he's experienced in the last two years compared to his entire football career before then. He'd be loving life now.
Free agency gives players the choice where they want to play. I don't think he's done much wrong in exercising that right. Especially when he's been playing for Gold Coast of all teams.

I can see both sides of the argument, but just don’t want to see it blown up to “how great of a story” for Lynch going from a basket case to (likely) winning a flag with how it’s happened through FA

 

[weltschmerz]

Reef McInnes is a terrible name.

 

[goodcop badcop]

I felt quite happy for Lynch last night, honestly. It's been blow after blow for GC, it would be so demoralising to be a young kid coming through the club from inception, through to basically only one year (even just half a year) of actual decent football, only to drop down to the bottom again.
He stuck with them a lot longer than plenty of other players. He tried his best. He captained the club when another captain left. If I were him i'd be wanting to leave as well. Good on him for taking a great contract to a club that was performing well, and now he's kicked 5 in a prelim to get into a grand final.
Think of the huge difference between what he's experienced in the last two years compared to his entire football career before then. He'd be loving life now.
Free agency gives players the choice where they want to play. I don't think he's done much wrong in exercising that right. Especially when he's been playing for Gold Coast of all teams.

He's no Chris Grant.

 

[Leon]

What’s with the empty seats at the MCG?

Don’t Collingwood have 4 trillion supporters?

Richmond played gws in a prelim a few years ago and got 90,000.

Do Collingwood even have 70,000 there? What gives?

 

[BarryMorgan]

Never thought I’d say it, but go Pies.

 

[NBates]

Love the half a bay of orange at the MCG.

 

[Chicago1]

Haven't said this often in over 40 years, but...

Go Pies!

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Do it for Toby!

 

[Chicago1]

Where's Toby?

 

[NBates]

Hope they show the Gorbster as much as they showed Hawkins last night.

 

[Chicago1]

Nice to hear the boos for Shaw.

 

[bresker]

F**k me. A mad Hawks fan I know rocked up the Imperial hotel today.

Free beer, free Giants shirt, free ticket to the game.

He's just posted on FB.

Could I hate them more?

 

[Randomthoughts]

Looks like a large number traveled from Western Sydney to attend this game

 

[NBates]

F**k me. A mad Hawks fan I know rocked up the Imperial hotel today.

Free beer, free Giants shirt, free ticket to the game.

He's just posted on FB.

Could I hate them more?

Oh! So he's in the half a bay with 19 others.